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[Annoyed]

Oh, this is gonna be a nice firefight in the courts

A militia group detained migrants at the border. The ACLU calls it kidnapping

(CNN)A militia group near the US-Mexico border detained hundreds of people this week, New Mexico's attorney general told CNN.
"My office has been informed that this week, an armed group has detained nearly 300 people near Sunland Park, New Mexico," Attorney General Hector Balderas said in a written statement. "These individuals should not attempt to exercise authority reserved for law enforcement."
Videos posted online purportedly showing migrants held by the United Constitutional Patriots group and handed over to the US Border Patrol drew swift condemnation from the American Civil Liberties Union of New Mexico.

The principle of citizen's arrest is quite sound, so I think the private militia is on firm legal ground. That said, it's guaranteed to wind up being fought out in the courts. Hopefully not the 9th Circus, though.

But the more important aspect is that if the govt. won't enforce our borders, groups like this will. And eventually, it will get violent.

The govt. better get off its arse and do its job.

[aretood2]

Oh, this is gonna be a nice firefight in the courts

A militia group detained migrants at the border. The ACLU calls it kidnapping



The principle of citizen's arrest is quite sound, so I think the private militia is on firm legal ground. That said, it's guaranteed to wind up being fought out in the courts. Hopefully not the 9th Circus, though.

But the more important aspect is that if the govt. won't enforce our borders, groups like this will. And eventually, it will get violent.

The govt. better get off its arse and do its job.

Citizen's arrest applies when, in the course of your normal daily life, you see a commision of a crime by an individual and you detain them while the authorities arrive. Militias are actively looking for it, that's vigilantism.

[Chaka-Z0]

Citizen's arrest applies when, in the course of your normal daily life, you see a commision of a crime by an individual and you detain them while the authorities arrive. Militias are actively looking for it, that's vigilantism.

Well I guess the legal logic is that if you mix citizen arrest with the 2nd amendment it becomes permitted.

[Gatefan1976]

Do you count yourself as one of those, because I thought I just read this coming from you:



He's no criminal, the report proved he wasn't.

No, it did not.

[SoulReaver]

No, it did not.

to be fair the report did prove that Trump did not

[Annoyed]

Citizen's arrest applies when, in the course of your normal daily life, you see a commision of a crime by an individual and you detain them while the authorities arrive. Militias are actively looking for it, that's vigilantism.

That's exactly what these folks did; detain them till the authorities arrived. 3 Kudos and a bowl of ice cream to each of them. They are taking action and staying within the limits of the law.

But what's gonna happen if the govt. doesn't step up to the plate is that other, move violent groups will form.

[Falcon Horus]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/18/p...pdf/index.html

It's a 134Mb file which I just downloaded and will entertain me later as I fly towards my vacation spot.

[SoulReaver]

It's a 134Mb file which I just downloaded and will entertain me later as I fly towards my vacation spot.

careful there's a lot of grey black area

[Chaka-Z0]

Fun fact of the day
We're almost at the $100M mark

https://trumpgolfcount.com

Days Trump has spent at Mar a Lago:

87

Cost of flights to Mar a Lago (24 so far):*

~$46,260,000

Days Trump has spent at Bedminster:

58

Cost of flights to Bedminster (19 so far):*

~$14,392,000

Trump has visited his clubs once every this many days since his inauguration:

4.9

Projected visits to golf clubs in four years:

297

Projected visits in eight years:

595

Total times Obama played golf during his eight year Presidency:

306

[Gatefan1976]

careful there's a lot of grey black area

Actually, not that much.

[Gatefan1976]

It's a 134Mb file which I just downloaded and will entertain me later as I fly towards my vacation spot.

It's actually a good read.

[SoulReaver]

Actually, not that much.

some pages like 26 28 38 65 185 186 197 207 completely blacked out lol
no way to know what's in there (some of it colour-coded as harmless 'private stuff' but that's William Barf who says it so that don't mean **** )

I know this the best the public can get because of some obscure law (allegedly passed by the Dems?) that forbids releasing the full thing to the public but there's exactly zero excuse not to release the original report to Congress

[Chaka-Z0]

Just like watching a movie that jump from the intro to credits (bit on WikiLeaks)

[Gatefan1976]

some pages like 26 28 38 65 185 186 197 207 completely blacked out lol
no way to know what's in there (some of it colour-coded as harmless 'private stuff' but that's William Barf who says it so that don't mean **** )

I know this the best the public can get because of some obscure law (allegedly passed by the Dems?) that forbids releasing the full thing to the public but there's exactly zero excuse not to release the original report to Congress

8 pages from 443.
Congress can get the full report, go for it, but in ongoing matters, that has never been allowed to the public

[SoulReaver]

8 pages from 443.
Congress can get the full report, go for it, but in ongoing matters, that has never been allowed to the public

those are just the fully blacked out ones
you can write "the Trumps are guilty as **** " in less than a line let alone 8 pages '_'
that's why Congress should get the full thing (then question Mueller under oath to make sure what was released to them wasn't altered)