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Originally posted by Coco Pops View PostThat TV ad really annoys me. It's dog whistling and creating fear. But of course everyone with half a brain should know that. Along with the new borderforce TV ad urging people to dob in people in boats that they think might be suspicious........
CREATING FEAR.
Dog whistles and such are for when there is a bias against a particular race, or religion or group and this ad AVOIDS showing the owners of ANY of this stuff and concentrates on elements of known risk of something that does happen, terrorism.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostIf you ask me the ad goes beyond annoying into downright stupid. Why in the name of all that's holy would the govt. want to provide the names of materials that could be used to make a bomb?
Any year 8 student in a public school knows these things, and anyone who watches any form of news knows the most common forms of chemicals to make a bomb before even then?
Does it tell you how to handle them?
No.
How to mix them?
No
The risk to yourself?
No.
Buying a crap ton of bullets and using the gunpowder would be an easier and safer way to make a bomb, so why in the name of all that's holy would the government allow free access to this more stable and damaging explosive?sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostSo, maybe the forced purge of anything of a religious (read: Christian) nature from the schools wasn't such a good idea?
In a subject of interpretation perhaps not.
When I went through the grade schools back in the 60's, they did cover religion, and it wasn't focused upon any one denomination. They even had guest speakers come in representing various churches. Aside from mainstream Christian, we had Jewish and I think we had one Mormon speaker. We also had Christmas pageants, Hanukkah observations as well.
Yeah, digging that real variety man................
I don't see this as violation of the separation of church and state, as the state was not advocating any particular religion, they were just providing information about several of them, and celebrations were observed for the holidays of those that had a significant percentage of the school population represented, again, not favoring one over the other.
Where is the teaching of Sikhism, or Buddism??
"Hey, I have 4 flavours of ice cream, vanilla with chocolate, vanilla with caramel, vanilla with strawberry and vanilla with lime"
I think you are advocating vanilla a bit.
But over the years anything resembling education about the dominant religion of this country has been purged from the public schools. This leaves any religious education to the churches themselves, which are understandably going to be very biased in favor of their particular faith.
School is not.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by aretood2 View PostThe second one fits more in a history class. I think someone was slacking off.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostSo. it didn't focus on Christian, just Christian, proto-Christian, and Christian off-shoots.
Yeah, digging that real variety man................
Yeah, as long as you were a smegging Christian offshoot.
Where is the teaching of Sikhism, or Buddism??
"Hey, I have 4 flavours of ice cream, vanilla with chocolate, vanilla with caramel, vanilla with strawberry and vanilla with lime"
I think you are advocating vanilla a bit.
http://news.gallup.com/poll/187955/p...down-high.aspx
The downtick in the percentage of the U.S. population identifying as Christian over the past eight years is a continuation of a trend that has been evident for decades. In Gallup surveys in the 1950s, over 90% of the adult population identified as Christian, with only a small percentage claiming no religious identification at all or identifying with a non-Christian religion.
Despite these changes, America remains a predominantly Christian nation, and with 94% of those who identify with a religion saying they are Christian.
The broad Christian category includes Catholics, Protestants, Mormons and non-denominational Christians. In 2015, 24% of Americans identify as Catholic, 50% as Protestant or as members of another non-Catholic Christian religion, and 2% as Mormon.
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostIf you ask me the ad goes beyond annoying into downright stupid. Why in the name of all that's holy would the govt. want to provide the names of materials that could be used to make a bomb?
I think you are being way too concerned about it. As long as proportions (and other details) aren't shared, such info is really useless. Now if GF or the ad did give that info....
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostWell, maybe because 90% of the population identified as Christian back then? Even today, if you count all offshoots, among those who identify as being of any religion, it's over 90% today. Since the educational system is intended to serve the needs of the population, that kinda makes sense.
http://news.gallup.com/poll/187955/p...down-high.aspx
Or heck, even pentecostals are widely misunderstood that is if people in my area even know anything about them to begin with. Or that time I had to correct my professor when he said that the Catholic Church was the only one for centuries (In his defense, he was trying simplify things but in doing so was ignoring a very important fact, Christianity has never been just one thing that can be generalized). Now extend this to religions not common in the US...oh boy, the inaccuracies.
That said, I do support comparative religious studies. But only if done with the aim to teach diversity within each religion. And I think that is the most important aspect of it. To learn to not rely on generalized labels.
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Just stopped by here for a refreshing time break from *that* other topic...
Thought I'd find something enlightening and lighter to read about, but came across the below, instead...
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post...2 years later, we did a schooltrip to Poland and visited Auschwitz. If ever there was a busload of 13-14 year olds more quiet and subdued in a bus, then you hadn't seen us that day -- a very lasting impression on a bus full of teenagers.
Originally posted by Gatecat View PostWe've never been to Auschwitz, not even Mauthausen. But I remember when I first saw Schindler's List (on TV), I cried so much afterwards. I think I was also about 12-13 yo there.
Not that anyone here might watch this --- but "The Winds of War" (1983 Tv series) and "War and Remembrance" (continued TV Mini-Series 1988) were among the saddest memories of the whole WWII history saga in fictionalized Tv format. Even tho it was just a Tv series about what really happened to other people -- who really died in all of that stuff, I cried every time I saw the trains come in and collect the people like cattle and then drop them off to die. Those people had everything stolen from them -- the moment they got off the trains -- EVERYTHING, even their own clothes were stolen and piled up in heaps for either someone else to steal or to be burned. The winter (trains, camps, and war) scenes were the most powerful (with intense music adding to the greater atmospheric effects) and my eyes are watering up now as I write this... :*(
Reading real life survivor stories of what actually happened within the camps was even more heart-breaking than just watching the films.
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostWe never watched any films in history class -- documentaries, on the other hand, plenty of those. Many times my classmates and I arrived at the lunch table pushing our lunches aside for we were no longer hungry after seeing the holocaust documentaries. Yes, our history class was right before lunch.
It also didn't help that my film class was in an old school with the only bomb shelter I knew about in that town -- which wouldn't fit more than 70 to 100 people at the most, even at packed capacity. Time era was shortly after or still during when the infamous "Cold War" was in action, with discussions on hiding under our desks if the nuclear bomb sirens ever went off.
Like how much good would that do hiding under a desk in a room full of huge windows?
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Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostActually, no it's not.
Dog whistles and such are for when there is a bias against a particular race, or religion or group and this ad AVOIDS showing the owners of ANY of this stuff and concentrates on elements of known risk of something that does happen, terrorism.
Yeah sorry for the mistake but no I disagree strongly. Both ads are creating fear.Go home aliens, go home!!!!
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Originally posted by Coco Pops View PostYeah sorry for the mistake but no I disagree strongly. Both ads are creating fear.
That too created fear, it also virtually halted the aids epidemic spreading further out here as well.
It -also- did not point out groups, and stuck to AIDS as the issue.
Sometimes fear is not a bad thing, when the subject of the ad is pretty bloody scary.
IF however, these ads were showing people doing the act, I would totally agree with you CoCo, the lesson would get lost in the blame and you end up fearing the person or the group, rather that the threat.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostOk, do you remember the old Grim reaper AIDS ads we had here in the 80's?
That too created fear, it also virtually halted the aids epidemic spreading further out here as well.
It -also- did not point out groups, and stuck to AIDS as the issue.
Sometimes fear is not a bad thing, when the subject of the ad is pretty bloody scary.
IF however, these ads were showing people doing the act, I would totally agree with you CoCo, the lesson would get lost in the blame and you end up fearing the person or the group, rather that the threat.
Yes I remember the Grim Reaper TV ads......Put me off sexGo home aliens, go home!!!!
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Hey Ozzies, I hear there's a Belgian immigrant leading Australia this week... ...is he turning your country into chocolate yet?Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostHey Ozzies, I hear there's a Belgian immigrant leading Australia this week... ...is he turning your country into chocolate yet?
No......... But I love chocolate....... If only we had chocolate rivers and lakes.... I'd drownGo home aliens, go home!!!!
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Originally posted by Coco Pops View PostYes I remember the Grim Reaper TV ads......Put me off sex
Ummm wasn't that the idea? To discourage people from having random sex with random partners to slow the spread of an incurable fatal disease? I'd say the ads worked, at least in your case.
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