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[Gatefan1976]

They don't act like it.

Nor did republicans when Obama was elected.

I have no questions about her country of birth. Her sanity, on the other hand..

You really aren't getting the parallels here are you?
I warned you, you did not listen.

[Gatefan1976]

Oh, and if you don't support trump you are a traitor, or human scum (his words)

He want's you to shoot someone on 5th avenue because he does not have the nuts to do it himself. He is an abject COWARD who blames all his woes on the "other"
Just like trump.
That's the real TDS.
Forget your principles, forget your morals, just do what trump wants.
Dictator much?

[Falcon Horus]

... the political left have been doing anything in their power to try and undo what is to them an unacceptable result. Trump won.

Impeachment is not undoing anything. It would put Mike Pence at the head of the country instead.
However, he seems to be implacated too in the Ukraine scandal, so that would mean... I think, the Speaker of the House to be next in line, which is... Pelosi?

The line of succession: the first four officers in the line of succession to the presidency are the vice president, Speaker of the House,president pro tempore of the Senate, and secretary of state.

[Annoyed]

Impeachment is not undoing anything. It would put Mike Pence at the head of the country instead.
However, he seems to be implacated too in the Ukraine scandal, so that would mean... I think, the Speaker of the House to be next in line, which is... Pelosi?

The line of succession: the first four officers in the line of succession to the presidency are the vice president, Speaker of the House,president pro tempore of the Senate, and secretary of state.

Yes, Pelosi would be next in line after Pence.

But, I'm afraid you've been listening to the MSM again.

The transcript of that phone call has been released, and there was no "quid pro quo". All that was said was a request to look into how Biden's kid got his "free" job. That is perfectly within the scope of a President's duties. The only problem is that it puts a Democrat on the hook for getting the kid the job. But you won't read that in the MSM.

Additionally, There is no "whistleblower" with direct knowledge of the call. All the first one has is hearsay. Coincidentally, up until a month or so before this whole mess started, the whistleblower law REQUIRED direct knowledge of events. That was changed just before this mess blew up to allow hearsay. That's too convenient. Anti-Trump deep state functionary anyone?

The Dems claim to have a 2nd whistleblower, but so far, this seems to be a fiction of their imagination.

Also, consider the Democrats insistence on conducting their investigation witch hunt behind closed doors, without allowing Reps to see the process. That alone tells me something stinks about the whole thing.

Perhaps you would do better ignoring the anti-Trump media such as CNN whose has a stated agenda of opposing Trump, and even directed his employees to focus on tearing Trump down.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/14...h-impeachment/

Yes, you disagree with Trump, that's fine. But just try looking for your information at sites that aren't biased against him. If you can find any, that is.

[SoulReaver]

The only problem is that it puts a Democrat on the hook for getting the kid the job.

thing is no one except the neocons gives a flyingf about VP Biden

you know that between president & vice-president there's a chasm right? the vice-president has no real power (a simple local cop has more power than "his superfluous excellency")

so how can there be abuse of power when you've no power?

Trump on the other hand is president so the abuse of power is very real

[jelgate]

Yes, Pelosi would be next in line after Pence.

But, I'm afraid you've been listening to the MSM again.

The transcript of that phone call has been released, and there was no "quid pro quo". All that was said was a request to look into how Biden's kid got his "free" job. That is perfectly within the scope of a President's duties. The only problem is that it puts a Democrat on the hook for getting the kid the job. But you won't read that in the MSM.

Additionally, There is no "whistleblower" with direct knowledge of the call. All the first one has is hearsay. Coincidentally, up until a month or so before this whole mess started, the whistleblower law REQUIRED direct knowledge of events. That was changed just before this mess blew up to allow hearsay. That's too convenient. Anti-Trump deep state functionary anyone?

The Dems claim to have a 2nd whistleblower, but so far, this seems to be a fiction of their imagination.

Also, consider the Democrats insistence on conducting their investigation witch hunt behind closed doors, without allowing Reps to see the process. That alone tells me something stinks about the whole thing.

Perhaps you would do better ignoring the anti-Trump media such as CNN whose has a stated agenda of opposing Trump, and even directed his employees to focus on tearing Trump down.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/14...h-impeachment/

Yes, you disagree with Trump, that's fine. But just try looking for your information at sites that aren't biased against him. If you can find any, that is.

False. The word denial comes to mind.

[Annoyed]

Just to illustrate how screwed up this place is..

How much you want to bet the "angel" car driver gets into some sort of legal shiznit over this?
And I wonder what the insurance will cover?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/arizona-d...s-family-video

An Arizona driver praised as an “angel” by the police may have saved the lives of a couple pushing a stroller in a crosswalk, as her car smashed into a suspected drunk driver speeding through a red light — and coming just inches away from plowing into the family, dramatic street video shows.

The Phoenix Police Department released stunning video Wednesday of the close call. The footage shows the couple and their child had the right of way when they entered the crosswalk of a busy Phoenix intersection on the night of Oct. 14.

As they make their way across, a Jeep comes barreling through the intersection, freezing the family in place. At the same time, a Chevy Cruz enters the intersection and slams into the side of the Jeep just feet before it's set to strike the family.

The driver of the Jeep, 23-year-old Ernesto Oveso, and a female passenger got out of the vehicle and attempted to run away from the scene, FOX10 Phoenix reported.

As a witness followed the pair in their car, Oveso stabbed a door on the vehicle with a knife, the station reported.
Oveso was arrested and faced multiple charges.

Police eventually caught and arrested Oveso, but the woman managed to get away. Oveso was arrested for DUI and also faces charges of aggravated assault, the station reported. A gun was also reportedly found in the Jeep.

The 27-year-old woman driving the Chevy Cruz suffered non-life threatening injuries, police said.

[jelgate]

You need to learn the law. Their are several forbidding your paranoid scenario

[SoulReaver]

Just to illustrate how screwed up this place is..

How much you want to bet the "angel" car driver gets into some sort of legal shiznit over this?
And I wonder what the insurance will cover?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/arizona-d...s-family-video

in a ****hole like Arizona anything's possible eh?

btw here's another one who learnt his lesson the hard way:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-paraly...ry?id=66409696

in this ****hole country if you're nobody & you're in trouble the last thing to do is call the SS

btw 750k for wrongful shooting & paralysis sounds like a ****ty deal

[Annoyed]

in a ****hole like Arizona anything's possible eh?

btw here's another one who learnt his lesson the hard way:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-paraly...ry?id=66409696

in this ****hole country if you're nobody & you're in trouble the last thing to do is call the SS

btw 750k for wrongful shooting & paralysis sounds like a ****ty deal

What the **** does that story have anything to do with a quick-thinking private citizen who placed her own hide at risk to prevent the death of pedestrians at the hands of a drunk driver?

[Annoyed]

You need to learn the law. Their are several forbidding your paranoid scenario

Under criminal law, she's probably safe. "That which is necessary to protect life is legal" or some such.
But we have two parallel legal systems, Criminal and Civil. How do you think they managed to go after O.J. Simpson after he was found not guilty?

They'll go after her in the civil courts, but it's still legal shiznit.

[SoulReaver]

What the **** does that story have anything to do with a quick-thinking private citizen who placed her own hide at risk to prevent the death of pedestrians at the hands of a drunk driver?

none your story just wasn't that interesting :|
(you did mention the likelihood of a miscarriage of justice resulting from that samaritan's act but that's just hypothetical at the moment)

[Falcon Horus]

But, I'm afraid you've been listening to the MSM again.

I haven't been listening to anyone... I know the highlights, and there's enough evidence so far to warrant an investigation.
If Bill Clinton's under the table sexual actions were worthy of an investigation than Trump has to shut the **** up and stop acting like a big baby and take it held high.

If he's got nothing to worry about... what's got him so riled up. He's a dumbass idiot!

[Annoyed]

I haven't been listening to anyone... I know the highlights, and there's enough evidence so far to warrant an investigation.
If Bill Clinton's under the table sexual actions were worthy of an investigation than Trump has to shut the **** up and stop acting like a big baby and take it held high.

If he's got nothing to worry about... what's got him so riled up. He's a dumbass idiot!

Actually, there isn't enough evidence. Regarding the "collusion" allegation, Mueller come up with nothjing, and there have been questions about the people who made that charge for a while, you've never heard of Barr?

His investigation has just been elevated to the status of a criminal investigation.

U.S. Justice Dept. review of origins of Russia probe now a criminal investigation: source

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. Justice Department review of the origins of the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election is now a criminal investigation, a person familiar with the matter said on Thursday.

That investigation is likely to reveal that the whole mess is the result of illegal spying on the Trump campaign and charges against the people involved. Meaning that the whole thing has never been anything beside an attempt by Trump's enemies to overturn the results of the 2016 election.

And as far as the current witch hunt, the transcript of the phone call shows no illegal activity. Combine that with the Democrats refusing to even hold a vote on the matter, and conducting their investigation in secret, behind closed doors.

What would you think if the circumstances were reversed? The Republicans conducting a secret "star chamber" probe, with hard evidence that nothing was done?

It just might turn out that the Russians or Ukraine did indeed interfere. To benefit the Democrats, not Trump.

For the past 3 years, the Democrats, the Anti-Trumpers and the Deep State has been conducting a coordinated attempt at overturning the results of an election they didn't like the results of.

Oh, and note the timing. All of this is going to be front and center in the news cycles next year, during the election season.

Guess who is gonna get hurt by that?

[SoulReaver]

Meaning that the whole thing has never been anything beside an attempt by Trump's enemies to overturn the results of the 2016 election.

the only ones who did anything of substance to mess up the election are the ruskies when they made Trump president


but you know what if Barr's witch hunt does prove him right then this invalidates the 2016 election right? which means Trump should no longer be president :|

It just might turn out that the Russians or Ukraine did indeed interfere. To benefit the Democrats, not Trump.

easy to find out whom the ruskies interfered for just look at who won, easy peasy

also Trump's top spokeswoman Ann Coulter is a notorious pro-rusky that alone settles it

not to mention Trump himself confessing on TV ("I believe Putin over my own people")

For the past 3 years, the Democrats, the Anti-Trumpers and the Deep State has been conducting a coordinated attempt at overturning the results of an election they didn't like the results of.

the Supreme Deep State will be the one enabling Trump when he steals the election (again)

Oh, and note the timing. All of this is going to be front and center in the news cycles next year, during the election season.

Guess who is gonna get hurt by that?

absolutely let the people be witness how Big Government is going after political opponents (you know, the real witch hunt)

to answer your question the real question is how much do mericans trust Godvernment?