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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    Quote Originally Posted by I Am Not James Spader View Post
    Does anyone have the creators on social media? Tell them this is vital and needs to be fixed.
    Since all of the first season has probably already been completed, that won't help unless it gets renewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecgordon View Post
    Since all of the first season has probably already been completed, that won't help unless it gets renewed.
    And outlines are ready for at least the beginning of next season, should it happen.

    See Joseph Mallozzi's blog for all things Dark Matter (he's the creator of it, along with his 'writing partner' Paul Mullie).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOIVA View Post
    Great point about the characters doing nothing. I haven't really thought about it in that way yet, but you're entirely correct.

    I'm still annoyed 'the crew of the Raza' hasn't even searched the ship. They've got a locked compartment they seemingly aren't even trying to open (they've tried to remember the code and shoot the door, don't tell me those are the only options).
    And they spend days traveling doing absolutely nothing, barring maybe Two that surveys the efficiency of their engines.

    The whole of Dark Matter remonds me of the Atlantis episode 'Tabula Rasa' in this sort of a dreamy reality where noone knows what's going on and who they are. But that Atlantis episode has suspense. I was curious to know what happened and how it will be fixed. I was anxious for the characters.
    But now in Dark Matter, it's all lasted 6 weeks. All the suspense there was is long gone. I want the characters to be doing something, at least trying something. That way I may come to like them eventually.

    Come to think of it, that's what the episodes 4 and 5 were. The whole crew was doing stuff. And those were the episodes that were interesting for me.
    Yes, the crew not exploring their own ship bugs me too** but for episodic TV it is understandable. Sometimes in storytelling, the characters can't behave like people in real life would or else all the story lines would happen at once. It is the same with Haven (only on Season 3 no spoilers please) - there is no way a real life person would spend all those months in trying to unravel the mystery and allow Vince & Dave to get away with keeping so many secrets, but in order to keep the story going that is the way it has to be.

    Regarding the vault, three of the characters have tried to access the vault since the show started. And I don't think that there is a week between all the episodes, unless it has been specified in Episode 6 that 6 weeks have passed.

    Also, I think there has been a big continuity error. In Episode 5, Five brings the crew to the hold to show them the vault and they all act as though they haven't seen it before but weren't they all in the hold in Episode 1? Isn't that where they found the weapons crates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakar View Post
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    Trying to give the impression that they are important when they are not. Pompous and high falutin'.

    Can't say that I've seen these shows on SyFy.

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    IIRC they showed the crew stumbling across the vault in episode 1 when the crew is spending their time exploring the ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecgordon View Post
    Since all of the first season has probably already been completed, that won't help unless it gets renewed.
    I had assumed as much.

    I'm hoping that it is the plan for the rest of Season 1 that the crew will actually fly and fire the ship's weapons by themselves. Having the ship automated and Android doing everything doesn't really suit the the nature of the of the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgate View Post
    IIRC they showed the crew stumbling across the vault in episode 1 when the crew is spending their time exploring the ship.

    And didn't that scene make a big deal about the sealed door - I thought that was the reason why Three came back later and tried to break in.

    I got the the episode free on iTunes - I'll check it tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Am Not James Spader View Post
    Also, I think there has been a big continuity error. In Episode 5, Five brings the crew to the hold to show them the vault and they all act as though they haven't seen it before but weren't they all in the hold in Episode 1? Isn't that where they found the weapons crates?
    Quote Originally Posted by jelgate View Post
    IIRC they showed the crew stumbling across the vault in episode 1 when the crew is spending their time exploring the ship.
    Quote Originally Posted by I Am Not James Spader View Post
    I had assumed as much.

    I'm hoping that it is the plan for the rest of Season 1 that the crew will actually fly and fire the ship's weapons by themselves. Having the ship automated and Android doing everything doesn't really suit the the nature of the of the show.
    Quote Originally Posted by I Am Not James Spader View Post
    And didn't that scene make a big deal about the sealed door - I thought that was the reason why Three came back later and tried to break in.

    I got the the episode free on iTunes - I'll check it tomorrow
    The scene from episode one was in a different part of the ship from the big door. It is a very large ship and the crew hasn't explored much of it. The big door is somewhere in the lower levels of the ship. THREE was exploring on his own when he found it. He later showed it to FOUR. FIVE knew about the door from her dreams, which turned out to be memories of the rest of the crew crammed in her head. She told SIX that the door existed and there were secrets behind it, but she didn't tell anyone where to find it until episode five when she brought the entire crew down to see it. No continuity errors as far as I can see.

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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    I'm watching the show and liking it so far. I love Stargate SG-1 and the work Mallozzi and Mullie did on the show. I enjoy seeing the influences from their past in this show.

    I wouldn't put my interest in the category of just love to death, but it intrigues me. I find myself rewatching the episodes during the week and looking forward to the next one. That is a good sign.

    I know the nature of the show encourages audiences to speculate, but I don't feel compelled to come up with any grand theories. I prefer to watch closely and gather all the facts. There is still much more to learn at this point and I'm on board for the ride.

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    When I found out who was involved in running the show I amost didn't watch it. The only reason I gave it a chance was because Zoie Palmer was in it. It's average but I'll keep watching for the time being. I can't stand one though. God he is annoying the way he tries to run after Two. Really hope the keep romance to a bare minimum in the show. What I mean by bare minimum is virtually undetectable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda06 View Post
    When I found out who was involved in running the show I amost didn't watch it. The only reason I gave it a chance was because Zoie Palmer was in it. It's average but I'll keep watching for the time being. I can't stand one though. God he is annoying the way he tries to run after Two. Really hope the keep romance to a bare minimum in the show. What I mean by bare minimum is virtually undetectable.
    Not a really a fan of One either, he's pretty bland right now. I'm kind of hoping he's actually a really bad guy (like maybe he's the one who killed Five's friends; probably not though) and that he remembers his past and is faking being the nice guy (or he ends up remembering his past and starts acting like a bad guy). At least that would make him more interesting to me, and hopefully that would stop a romance between him and Two. When One and Two woke up they were fighting for control of the ship, maybe that scene was put there for more than just trying to start to play up the whole sexual tension thing between the two.

    I really like the show though (more and more as the season goes on).

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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    A few thoughts:

    I like the show. I'm intrigued by the concept, and am really glad to see a ship-based drama on the air. I think that remaining identified as numbers rather than the names they've discovered solidifies the notion that a person can always choose who they are ultimately going to be. It's the beautiful theory of self-destiny. I don't think that we will get the full story of who each of these people really are for a while, and in the meantime, their characters are going to change so much that who they were might be virtually unrecognizable from who they are becoming (if that makes any sense).

    As for cheesy special effects, it all boils down to money, doesn't it? They do the best they can until the show starts being profitable, and then things will start to improve. I cringe when I watch the first two or three seasons of SG-1, but then things started to improve as they got into a groove and found their stride. The custom these days of dismissing shows out of hand because they don't look like big budget films is a little sad. That's how we lose a LOT of shows that could have become great.

    I'm liking Dark Matter a lot. I'm intrigued to find out where it goes, and am hoping that the network is patient enough to let that happen.
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    Looking forward to tonight's episode.

    Quote Originally Posted by Linda06 View Post
    When I found out who was involved in running the show I amost didn't watch it. The only reason I gave it a chance was because Zoie Palmer was in it. It's average but I'll keep watching for the time being. I can't stand one though. God he is annoying the way he tries to run after Two. Really hope the keep romance to a bare minimum in the show. What I mean by bare minimum is virtually undetectable.
    Are you me? This was my exact reaction, except that I didn't know who Zoie Palmer was. She plays my favorite character, though. I was warned away from the show because of the people behind it, but I figured I could go in with low enough expectations, and I came out pleasantly surprised for the most part.

    But yeah, the One/Two/Three love triangle needs to go. I'm a little concerned, based on how pairings were handled and presented in SG-1 and SGA, about having One/Two shoved in my face when I just don't see any reason for them to get together. I mean, Two/Three having a fling off-screen was fine because that was in the background, and Two and Three didn't go around moping after that, but this relationship drama already happening when the crew members barely know one another just feels cliché. Why is One pining after Two when neither of them know who they really are themselves, let alone each other?

    Quote Originally Posted by Linda06 View Post
    As for cheesy special effects, it all boils down to money, doesn't it? They do the best they can until the show starts being profitable, and then things will start to improve. I cringe when I watch the first two or three seasons of SG-1, but then things started to improve as they got into a groove and found their stride. The custom these days of dismissing shows out of hand because they don't look like big budget films is a little sad. That's how we lose a LOT of shows that could have become great.
    I must not be well-versed in today's sci-fi movies and tv at all because the special effects on DM haven't really stood out to me in a good or a bad way. It kind of looks normal to me. I mean, Killjoys looks good to me, too, but I figure that there are more environments to show in that show's universe than what we've been able to see in DM's.
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    TV Sci-Fi doesnt HAVE to look cheesy because of the budget. The FTL effects from stargate to andromeda to BSG were low budget and they looked great.

    I didn't really like the first few eps, but its getting better....And lets face it, ANY SciFi is better then no SciFi or worse Syfy!

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    Just wanna say, I'm a stargate fan, really liked SG-U, am only on episode 6 of Dark Matter, and this is a great show, but please don't screw it up.

    Was surprised about the love triangle, they are generally bad, shippers are too enthusiastic, and I wouldn't go there, but am interested to see how it might play out.

    The biggest issue is if they use the audience not knowing this/these world(s) for plot movement, because that's lame and so 10 years ago.

    Some shows that started off good but are terrible as a whole: Battlestar Galactica, LOST, The 4400, Roswell, Heroes, Dark Angel

    Be ambitious, but don't get caught up in time-travel, nanites, or monster/mutant/job of the week.

    Write your chapters, books, bibles now and go for shorter seasons and try to get a 2 season deal renewal to bring in the viewers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hlndncr View Post
    The scene from episode one was in a different part of the ship from the big door. It is a very large ship and the crew hasn't explored much of it. The big door is somewhere in the lower levels of the ship. THREE was exploring on his own when he found it. He later showed it to FOUR. FIVE knew about the door from her dreams, which turned out to be memories of the rest of the crew crammed in her head. She told SIX that the door existed and there were secrets behind it, but she didn't tell anyone where to find it until episode five when she brought the entire crew down to see it. No continuity errors as far as I can see.
    So they weapons and the locker where Four found the puzzle box was a different cargo hold? (I didn't have time to rematch any of it )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda06 View Post
    When I found out who was involved in running the show I amost didn't watch it. The only reason I gave it a chance was because Zoie Palmer was in it. It's average but I'll keep watching for the time being. I can't stand one though. God he is annoying the way he tries to run after Two. Really hope the keep romance to a bare minimum in the show. What I mean by bare minimum is virtually undetectable.

    I'm enjoying the show, but I do agree that One is the weakest on the show. Very uninteresting character and I simply don't care what his backstory is going to be. The real Corso is too much of a pantomime character too.

    As far as I can see his only real purpose is to be a target for Three's wit.

    As I said earlier Android does too much on the ship and the rest are simply passengers. At the very least, Six should start flying the ship and Five should be the mechanic. I'm hoping that as the memories start coming back, so will their shipboard duties.

    There would still be plenty for Android to do, and the writer's would be free to explore other aspect of her character.

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    So they weapons and the locker where Four found the puzzle box was a different cargo hold? (I didn't have time to rematch any of it )
    Indeed.

    At the very beginning, they stumbled in a cargo hold with crates of weapons, clothes, etc. They thought they had enough to make money.

    Now they've unlocked the 'mystery' cargo hold. They found weapons, money, other goodies and think they have enough to be fine.

    I bloody hope we're not gonna see that pattern repeat anymore. And I still don't get why this cargo hold was locked while the crates with weapons they found in the pilot weren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOIVA View Post
    ...And I still don't get why this cargo hold was locked while the crates with weapons they found in the pilot weren't.
    I think that they will find something interesting in locked chests - that is why this cargo was extra closed.

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