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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM?

    I am not yet sure. I like the plot, the characters don't seem bad either. I enjoyed the first 3 episodes except for one thing:

    I seriously disliked the battle in Episode 2. It was terribly staged in my opinion. Like they shoot "enemys" who look like that have been standing behind them for like 5 minutes without fireing a shot. Or... well there is a huge troop of armored soldiers... what do These People do? all come out of their cover (the first Encounter between the miners and the soldiers).

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    Already loving this show! I cannot stand all the rest of SYFYs current pretentious crap shows. More of this please!!

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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    So far I cannot get into it. The affects, gun battles etc. are just too badly done. The ships are too weird. Looks like a hacked up Destiny.

    They are keeping to a limited budget and it shows.

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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    As Sci Fi fans, we have to accept that well done effects are expensive, and that we won't see them. That doesn't have to mean that we can't enjoy the story being told.

    The FTL effects look cheesy as heck to me. Sorta like a sideways Millenium Falcon. Doesn't detract from my enjoyment of the show. The longest running Sci Fi franchise in history, Doctor Who has never had more than bargain basement effects. Still one of the best sci fi shows ever.
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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    As long as they get to interact with outside forces (starbases, corporations, ...), it may get more interesting. But if the main focus of the show will be the 'drama and intrigue' between the characters on the ship, I'm not sure I'll enjoy it much. (Funnily that's the opposite situation from SGU, there I was generally more content with Destiny-based episodes.)
    So far I struggled to believe the more serious, dramatic aspects of the show. But as soon as they diverted my attention with comedic scenes and some world-building (4th episode, specifically), I enjoyed the show far more.

    As far as VFX go, I think Dark Matter has ones of the best. But they're very dark, rather realistic and colorless, which is what may irk a lot of people. (They come off as a little bland in that regard.)

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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    I'm not quite sure yet. I don't love it,but I don't hate it either. It seems a little disappointing to me. It's kind of generic. Two things bother me about Dark Matter. First, is this idea that they have to cater to what they consider to be a "Young" crowd. I'm by no means old,but it seems that a wide spectrum should be represented. It tries to hard to be hip and edgy. Secondly, there's not much concept. This is more like a lower type of sci-fi. It takes place in space and has cool tech. The Stargate franchise was so much better. There was high concept, science,good characters. This is why it earned the position of being one of the best science fiction series on television. When I compare Stargate and Dark Matter, it's hard to believe that the same people are involved with the two. Sci-Fi can be fun and exciting as well as conceptual. Look at Star Trek as another example. I'm kind of losing hope in sci- fi tv programming.

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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    Quote Originally Posted by d.jackson View Post
    First, is this idea that they have to cater to what they consider to be a "Young" crowd. I'm by no means old,but it seems that a wide spectrum should be represented. It tries to hard to be hip and edgy.
    The forces of the universe say differently. They have to target a market which satisfies advertisers. Advertisers prefer to attempt to sell to young skulls full of mush who hop onto every fad wagon that comes down the pike, rather than older, more experienced consumers who have seen most of it before.
    Surly old curmudgeons like myself have pretty much decided what we need and have either acquired it already or realized that it is forever out of our reach for whatever reason.
    It is very hard to sell something to someone like me, so the advertisers want the easier targets, the youngsters.
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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    Quote Originally Posted by d.jackson View Post
    I'm kind of losing hope in sci- fi tv programming.
    With the recent Syfy years we've hit an all-time low for sure, but that doesn't mean we'll never have anything brilliant again....

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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    I haven't given up on sci-fi programming, although I'm close to giving up on Syfy programming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d.jackson View Post
    I'm not quite sure yet. I don't love it,but I don't hate it either. It seems a little disappointing to me. It's kind of generic. Two things bother me about Dark Matter. First, is this idea that they have to cater to what they consider to be a "Young" crowd. I'm by no means old,but it seems that a wide spectrum should be represented. It tries to hard to be hip and edgy. Secondly, there's not much concept. This is more like a lower type of sci-fi. It takes place in space and has cool tech. The Stargate franchise was so much better. There was high concept, science,good characters. This is why it earned the position of being one of the best science fiction series on television. When I compare Stargate and Dark Matter, it's hard to believe that the same people are involved with the two. Sci-Fi can be fun and exciting as well as conceptual. Look at Star Trek as another example. I'm kind of losing hope in sci- fi tv programming.
    That's my opinion of it as well. Shows like Star Trek, Stargate and even Outer Limits had hi-concepts sci-fi. Each episodes were like a movie by themselves. Dark Matter do some explorations but there was even more in Stargate. It was fun wondering how the characters would react to different situations. Still I enjoy Dark Matter quite a bit. I also enjoy 12 Monkeys. Not every sci-fi shows must be hi-concept/intelligent shows like Star Trek, Stargate (or even Outer Limits, Doctor Who), but it would be good to have a few shows like those too. Sci-fi started as way to explore our current realities, cultures, dilemma through the future. Action Sci-fi summer blockbuster came later on.
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    I have watched the first 2 eps and I liked it I don't have cable but I can watch on Amazon going to get the season pass when I get my check I felt it is kinda like little Firefly and a little Andromeda but just elements and loosely characters wise now I have to change sigs and fb cover, twitter header to include it and KillJoys oh the problems of a sci-fi & fantasy geeky fangirl

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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    I'm liking this show more and more so I'll stick with it.
    Still, IMO, it's no Stargate, or Star Trek.
    My favorite show on Syfy right now is 12 Monkeys.

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    So far I'm really liking it. The story is quite intriguing, the characters are growing on me, and even though the dialogs can be a bit wonky at times, I generally enjoy the writing. Quite frankly I'm puzzled by the mediocre reception the show's earned so far. I'm really looking forward to seeing the rest of the season.

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    I´m enjoying the show and will continue to watch. It sometimes takes time for a series to hit its stride and I remember that I thought Stargate SG-1 started poorly and I almost stopped watching it. Hopefully Dark Matter will also improve as it goes along.

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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    Coming from my previous post, it's getting better. Very slowly, but steadily.

    It seems like I was correct. As long as they introduce more outside elements, I'll enjoy the show more (still not quite in love with the main characters).

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    I'm going to give it a chance. I've watched a couple of more episodes. It is a little better. There are still some things that bother me about it. I do find the banter between one and three funny. I haven't found much to like in the characters yet. I find Killjoys to be better. There seems to be more character development. We'll see.

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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    I'm really enjoying this show.

    Very interesting concept, enjoyable characters.

    One problem though - the human characters are passengers on the Raza, not the crew. They don't have any responsibilities on the ship.

    Android is the pilot, mechanic, scientist, doctor, etc. and even she doesn't push any buttons or turn any dials. At the very least, the ship should need the human characters. Having the ship fully automated is boring.

    Six and Two should share the helm, Five should, at the very least, assist Android with repairs and the other three should take control of weapons in a battle. I know their memories are mushed, but still ....

    Does anyone have the creators on social media? Tell them this is vital and needs to be fixed.

    EDIT: Although the costumes need a bit more colour. Enough of black outfits in sic-fi and fantasy already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d.jackson View Post
    I'm going to give it a chance. I've watched a couple of more episodes. It is a little better. There are still some things that bother me about it. I do find the banter between one and three funny. I haven't found much to like in the characters yet. I find Killjoys to be better. There seems to be more character development. We'll see.
    I've only seen the first episode of Killjoys. I enjoyed it and want to see more, but I thought it was only okay.

    Dark Matter on the other hand is great stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by reyalicea View Post
    Already loving this show! I cannot stand all the rest of SYFYs current pretentious crap shows. More of this please!!
    What shows on SyFy are "pretentious"?
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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    Quote Originally Posted by I Am Not James Spader View Post
    I'm really enjoying this show.

    Very interesting concept, enjoyable characters.

    One problem though - the human characters are passengers on the Raza, not the crew. They don't have any responsibilities on the ship.

    Android is the pilot, mechanic, scientist, doctor, etc. and even she doesn't push any buttons or turn any dials. At the very least, the ship should need the human characters. Having the ship fully automated is boring.

    Six and Two should share the helm, Five should, at the very least, assist Android with repairs and the other three should take control of weapons in a battle. I know their memories are mushed, but still ....

    Does anyone have the creators on social media? Tell them this is vital and needs to be fixed.

    EDIT: Although the costumes need a bit more colour. Enough of black outfits in sic-fi and fantasy already.
    Great point about the characters doing nothing. I haven't really thought about it in that way yet, but you're entirely correct.

    I'm still annoyed 'the crew of the Raza' hasn't even searched the ship. They've got a locked compartment they seemingly aren't even trying to open (they've tried to remember the code and shoot the door, don't tell me those are the only options).
    And they spend days traveling doing absolutely nothing, barring maybe Two that surveys the efficiency of their engines.

    The whole of Dark Matter remonds me of the Atlantis episode 'Tabula Rasa' in this sort of a dreamy reality where noone knows what's going on and who they are. But that Atlantis episode has suspense. I was curious to know what happened and how it will be fixed. I was anxious for the characters.
    But now in Dark Matter, it's all lasted 6 weeks. All the suspense there was is long gone. I want the characters to be doing something, at least trying something. That way I may come to like them eventually.

    Come to think of it, that's what the episodes 4 and 5 were. The whole crew was doing stuff. And those were the episodes that were interesting for me.

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    Default Re: So far, what do you think about DM? (SPOILERS)

    Quote Originally Posted by I Am Not James Spader View Post

    What shows on SyFy are "pretentious"?
    All of them

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