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  1. #21

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    Why Jon Snow and Rand al'Thor are the same character

    http://howthegameofthronesends.blogs...-are-same.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulReaver View Post
    then You Are Relieved Of Duty Commander
    history versions are one thing but visuals are another (can't deny what's shown on screen)
    there's again the difference in alignments between neutral evil & chaotic evil - Tywin for starters is the big bad of the story so we expect big-bad from him :|
    he specifically targeted the villagers in that area as "punishment" for siding with the Brotherhood (or as a warning to the Brotherhood that their actions killed those they wanted to help), it was part of his reign of terror & it was a means to an end. remember when he ordered the tortures to stop? not out of compassion but because he needed hand labour
    like I said he's one bad example not the entire south, other kings like Robert, Robb, Renly or even Stannis would've punished such actions
    there's good not-so-bad houses like the Starks, Tyrells, Tullys, Baratheons, then there's evil houses like the Lannisters, Greyjoys/ironborn, Freys, Boltons...

    the wildlings on the other hand are all consistent in their MO and are a simpler mindset: kill whoever's in their path who's not one of them (and sometimes eat them while they're at it)
    for the heck of it
    in fact southeners like the Mountain would fit in perfectly with the wildlings

    that's why it's better to deal with someone like Tywin, give them what they want (even false info) & there's small chance to survive
    if dealing with wildlings on the other hand chances of survival are exactly nil. lol
    SoulReaver,
    I just wanted to share with you Jon Snow's thoughts on Wildlings crossing the wall and what happens if they are discovered. This should help you understand why they do what they do when it comes to prisoners:

    Excerpt from A Storm of Swords

    "But in between the only way to defeat the Wall was to go over it, and many a raider had. Fewer come back, though, he thought with a certain grim pride. Climbers must of necessity leave their mounts behind, and many younger, greener raiders began by taking the first horses they found. Then a hue and cry would go up, ravens would fly, and as often as not the Night’s Watch would hunt them down and hang them before they could get back with their plunder and stolen women. Jarl would not make that mistake, Jon knew, but he wondered about Styr. The Magnar is a ruler, not a raider. He may not know how the game is played."

    The show only shows you so much. Like for instance some people didn't know that Dany spoke Valyrian until after she had purchased the Unsullied and started speaking it and burned the masters. In the books she speaks it all the time and Ser Jorah tells her to pretend she couldn't speak it so she could learn exactly what they thought of her by feigning ignorance. When she was embraced by the slaves that were freed and calling her Mother that was also known as she had seen it in a vision that she had seen in the House of the Undying. TV has to be exciting and leaving certain aspects out provides that excitement to the viewer.

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    yea but remember I'm only basing what I said on the show, and the show itself ain't meant to be a book adaptation (unlike the LOTR movies), it's only based on the books
    so it's quite possible wildlings ain't as evil in the books

    btw I recall another scene in the show where Brienne was escorting Jaime and some merchant went by, Jaime suggested she should take care of him (kill or capture I don't remember) lest he be a witness - and it turned out he did rat them out later on - but she still chose to let him go on his way despite the risk since he was an innocent
    and she wasn't invading someone else's territory either

    also in the show remember the wildling Thenn chief (big bald guy as big as the Hound), he actually let a kid live after killing his relatives, so that he could run off to Castle Black & tell everyone what happened. so the wildlings weren't even concerned about stealth on the contrary they wanted to boast by letting everyone know they were there

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    speaking of the wall, what's even the point of the wall & the Night Watch?

    in season 2 it's shown that the wall can be bypassed (that's how Osha made it on the other side without climbing, go figure why the other wildlings didn't do the same)

    furthermore the night's watch is composed mostly of criminals, many of them felons
    entrusting the security of the 7 kingdoms to dangerous criminals doesn't sound like a wise tactical choice, but leaving that aside, most of the crows barely have basic combat training. WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulReaver View Post
    speaking of the wall, what's even the point of the wall & the Night Watch?

    in season 2 it's shown that the wall can be bypassed (that's how Osha made it on the other side without climbing, go figure why the other wildlings didn't do the same)

    furthermore the night's watch is composed mostly of criminals, many of them felons
    entrusting the security of the 7 kingdoms to dangerous criminals doesn't sound like a wise tactical choice, but leaving that aside, most of the crows barely have basic combat training. WTF?

    My personal theory is that the Wall was built by the Others and was set up by a Pact that was established after the Long Night. History has been lost and the tales that have been passed down are just a shadow of what actually is. Once I get all my similarities out as to what I have seen I will put out how I believe ASOIAF will end. Who knows HBO may like my version better than that of GRRM's. Since I played a similar game when I was growing up with TV shows with my friends in changing plot lines I think I can determine some of the things he may do when it is all said and done. I know a lot of people don't agree with my assessment but you can't just overlook the things that I have written simply because you say that an author wouldn't go that route and use portions of a story already written simply because you like the story. I am not saying it is plagiarism only that major story arcs follow closely and then a twist is thrown in to not make it so. Anyone who has read both books can attest that what I have written true as I pretty much copied and pasted directly from the books to make my point. That way you can simply look it up for yourself.

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    Where did the "Faith of the Seven" come from?

    http://howthegameofthronesends.blogs...come-from.html

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    Why you can't forecast the weather in ASOIAF

    http://howthegameofthronesends.blogs...in-asoiaf.html

    Haven't you guys ever wondered why the weather is so erratic?

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    What will happen to Jon Snow after ADWD

    http://howthegameofthronesends.blogs...fter-adwd.html

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    I have read some of the links you have provided bOOgieman, & I do not really understand what you are talking about.
    Wheel of Time & A Song of Fire and Ice (or Game of Thrones if you prefer) are written by two different authors. I am having difficulty understanding why GRRM would copy/plagiarize another author.
    That you would chose to pick on Wheel of Time to try to find similarities (or perceived similarities) to Game of Thrones is beyond me, unless you have a vested interest in pushing WoT in this forum.

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    I'm not trying to push TWOT at all. All I am saying is that I believe that ASOIAF will end in a way that has something to do with TWOT. For the most part I have just been showing everyone where the same thing seems to play out in TWOT and then show you the same setting played out in ASOIAF.

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    Why Bran is referred to as the Winged Wolf

    http://howthegameofthronesends.blogs...nged-wolf.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Who Knows View Post
    I have read some of the links you have provided bOOgieman, & I do not really understand what you are talking about.
    Wheel of Time & A Song of Fire and Ice (or Game of Thrones if you prefer) are written by two different authors. I am having difficulty understanding why GRRM would copy/plagiarize another author.
    That you would chose to pick on Wheel of Time to try to find similarities (or perceived similarities) to Game of Thrones is beyond me, unless you have a vested interest in pushing WoT in this forum.
    If you can't see the similarities in this post I would suggest you not read anything else that I post because you will never be able to see it. It would be like me repeating the fact that Darth Vader telling Luke that he was his father and Han Solo flying off in the millenium falcon while evading the Empire. I would then turn around and tell you about this other show that Dorothy Vines telling Lorie that she was her mother under similar circumstances and then I tell you about Harriette Bolo flying off in her Centurion Eagle evading the colony. One occurrence doesn't really mean anything but if they keep piling up coming from the same series it becomes a pattern and you can start making assumptions as to how the series that hasn't ended will possibly end. That is all that I am doing.

    I could have just put out my theory as to how I believe that ASOIAF will end just like everybody else has and leave it at that. But since mine is based upon the fact that I believe that it will end in a similar fashion to TWOT with a twist as the rest of the things that I have shown. I am just laying the foundation to my final theory.

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    Will an unconventional form of travel become the norm in ASOIAF?

    http://howthegameofthronesends.blogs...of-travel.html

    Otherwise to advance the story we will have to have jumps in the timeline

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    Did you catch Arya's tell while reading ASOIAF?

    http://howthegameofthronesends.blogs...e-reading.html

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