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    Visit the Episode GuideDOCTOR WHO - SEASON 34
    DEATH IN HEAVEN
    EPISODE NUMBER - 3412 (812)
    With Cybermen flooding the streets of London and threatening the entire globe, U.N.I.T. swoops in to try and contain Missy. But the Doctor’s confrontation with an old friend is interrupted by Clara and the surprise survival of Danny Pink.

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    Holy Shmoly!!!
    Think thats one of the best episodes of new Who, but a shame they killed Osgood and suprised they killed the Master (but she'll be back...)...

    So, both of them are lying to eachother on their departure, so will Clara be back?

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    wtf what just happened? was missy the master and how did she come back from the dead?
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    Why do i feel like that episode was anti climactic?

    Why the lies from the doctor?? Clara I can understand, total awesome move from Danny though, he should be the benchmark which the doctor judges humanity. Shame he didn't witness it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nth Chevron View Post
    Why do i feel like that episode was anti climactic?

    Why the lies from the doctor?? Clara I can understand, total awesome move from Danny though, he should be the benchmark which the doctor judges humanity. Shame he didn't witness it.
    Because the Doctor assumed Danny would be back and he wanted Clara to think he'd be going back home and wouldn't need a companion anymore.
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    Pretty good, some great touches (Missy's 'safety briefing' line made me laugh out loud) and actually sort of glad to see Clara go. Very sad to see Osgood go though, was really hoping we'd get at least one more episode with her if not at least one trip in the TARDIS - even if her knowledge of Gerry Anderson TV series isn't perfect.

    So many twists and turns I will probably have to watch it again to make sure I didn't miss anything.
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    That was such utter rubbish throughout. There were some fun moments individually but they didn't amount to anything. We know nothing more about Missy and how she escaped than we did last time, and she got vapourised. Which means the next time they want to use the Master they'll be another headache trying to explain that away.

    The Clara is the Doctor thing was bad enough. Even before they pointless modified the title sequence for it.

    Most damningly the Doctor is entirely passive the whole episode and does next to nothing to resolve the situation. If Missy hadn't literally handed him the cybermen's off button the day would not have been saved. And her big speech about him is nothing we haven't heard already.

    I want to like Capaldi's Doctor. But we need new writers. Moffat's plots are wearing very thin.

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    The way they killed Osgood (or "Yes" as she should be known ) It seemed too quick.. does Missy's Killamajig actually kill?

    I want "Yes" back!

    But CyberDanny He was far better than regular Danny

    One of the best episodes for a long time ...Still not a fan of Clara trying to be The Doctor though..

    But the ending, the lying to each other and going their separate ways.. I expect it's to set up the reunion in the Christmas episode..

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    I loved the nods to The Brigadier. I quite enjoyed the episode, will miss Jenna Coleman as a companion but the way it ended with her and The Doctor lying to each other to ease the change was nice though I feel Clara's lie was just in response to The Doctor's.

    Shame about Osgood but as Moffat said on Dr Who Extra a death to a character who was liked was needed to show the threat of Missy.

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    Much of an anti-climax: last week's was a better episode (IMO).

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    Oh, and I presume we're all agreeing that Missy teleported away at the end, and wasn't "killed" by her own device?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quizziard View Post
    Oh, and I presume we're all agreeing that Missy teleported away at the end, and wasn't "killed" by her own device?
    That was certainly my assumption. Bananas though she may be I expect her demonstrated transmat/teleport has something akin to a Hostile Action Displacement System built into it. Michelle Gomez was too good in the role for that to be her only outing.
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    oswood was found alive at the end?
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    No, that was Kate. Osgood was killed by Missy on the plane.

    Of course given the Zygon situation in Day of the Doctor and the Doctors' resolution of that situation, there is a slim chance that we could see Osgood again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quizziard View Post
    Oh, and I presume we're all agreeing that Missy teleported away at the end, and wasn't "killed" by her own device?
    No she was shot and vaporized by the Cyber Brigadier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GodAtum View Post
    wtf what just happened? was missy the master and how did she come back from the dead?
    She didn't come back from the dead, she escape Gallifrey and Rassilon and the Timelords and escaped from wherever Gallifrey was sent to The Time of the Doctor, probably at the cost of his life which is why he regenerated into Missy. The master was still alive when he went through that portal in The End of Time, .

    Of cause there the little mystery of where the Master Tardis is or what ever device he use to escape Gallifrey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quizziard View Post
    Oh, and I presume we're all agreeing that Missy teleported away at the end, and wasn't "killed" by her own device?
    Actually she was shot by the Brigadier using a Cyberman weapon. An it quite clear how she reacted at the end when the doctor was going to pull the trigger on her weapon that she had no way out which is why she tried to talk the doctor down and delay him pulling the trigger.

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    I don't deny (in hindsight) it looks like she was shot by Cyber Brigadier. But the effects were for her teleport, and didn't match those of the (admittedly little seen) cyber-weapons.

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    They didn't kill the Master....... It was the blue transmat beam not the red one.

    Overall I think this was a great episode even if it conjures mixed feelings. I loved it.

    Wow what an episode?

    Clara was going to use the killer iphone to zap Missy to bits so she must have figured out the red setting, but the Doctor intervenes and instead uses the blue transmat setting..

    Sorry I saw that as a bit of a cop out.

    Of course had that not happened the Master would be dead for good I suspect.

    Did love the scenes in the cemetery. I thought there was more James Bond type music in the fall from the plane, sounded different to the trailer..

    Nothing. No Galifrey. She lied.... Not surprised. But that raw emotion and all from the Doctor. That was brilliant.

    But why smash the poor console? Poor TARDIS...

    So much to stew on......

    Santa Clause, Really? knocking on the door in mid flight? Really..... I know kids show but this is just stupid.

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    BTW plot point..

    How did Clara get so much knowledge about Galifrey, its locaion and the Doctor to try and fool the Cybermen?
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    Didn't really care for this episode which surprised me since I thought the first part was great. There were some moments I really liked. Really liked Missy as the new master and her Mary Poppins like ways. I loved Danny in this episode. His sacrifice was great.

    Didn't like the fake Missy death scene or that doctor seems to believe she is dead. They couldn't have made it more obvious she teleported away. Same green energy that looks nothing like the regular cybermen weapon fire that we seen when cyberman Danny blasted those cybermen. I guess they wanted a easy way to explain her shocking return that would only shock a child. With that said I hated that they didn't explain how she escaped whatever dimension Gallifrey was trapped in. The fact that she escapes opens up a hundred questions. Did anyone else escape? Where she get that Tardis? Did any of the bad things attacking Gallifrey escape with Missy? Then I just didn't care for the crazy plot. Missy creates a army for the doctor because she thinks that will make him her friend again. The master is crazy but not being played that crazy. This reminds of the show Defiance where they have one guy come up the craziest plans so he can date a girl. All he has to do is ask her out. All the master has to do is tell the doctor where Gallifrey is. Then the doctor as president of the world was just dumb.

    Some of the interesting things are that Clara is almost certainly pregnant. I actually like that they only hinted at it. I kind of liked Clara and the doctor lying to each other at the end. I actually think the doctor got Missy's message wrong.

    Any way this season was up and down. I liked half the episode and hated the other half.

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