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    (since Clara seemed to have been coming and going a lot)
    Waht makes you think that? I mean, it is possible of course, but were there any hints in the last episodes, that she went home between adventures? Bu I do wander what it meant that be saw the TARDIS leaving without her. I wasn't under the ipression, the doctor would let her out of side as long she hasn't solved the mysterie who she is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenee View Post
    I wonder who took this fotos
    And uploaded them, and to what - I didn't notice? Were they on Facebook or Tumblr or on a website with its own domain or what? Photos have to go somewhere, they don't just float around in cyberspace limbo until someone decides to look for them.

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    If all a person wants to do is come in and complain, it's their prerogative. As long as their criticism follows the rules, they can express it. What other users can do, if they don't want to read it, scroll fast or put that person on ignore. Think of it as a win/win. They can express themselves, you don' t have to read it.

    It sucks when a fandom becomes divided. When all people want to do is talk about the show, but all some want to do is express their frustration that the show has changed to something they no longer like, and since fandom usually means an emotional attachment to a show, people get emotional about those changes. The key is how folks handle that emotion.

    A little tolerance and mutual respect could go a long way.

    If a person hates the show...hate it. But think of your fellow forum members. Put yourself in their shoes. If you liked a show would you like it if someone perpetually came in and tore it apart?

    Those of you that still enjoy the show....how would you feel if it changed to the point that you no longer liked it and you lost that hour of enjoyment each week? Wouldn't you be upset? Learn to scroll. Failing that, put someone on ignore.

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    Artie mentions that he found the photo of Clara on the submarine in 1983 at school, and immediately asks if Clara's "boyfriend" is an alien... because of his chin(!). I'd say somebody is prompting them, and it's a fair bet it's the Great Intelligence.

    Also, for those who were wondering if the revolver Mrs Gillyflower was using was anachronistic, it looked like a Webley RIC which was first made in 1868 (and used by Custer at Little Big Horn in 1876), twenty-five years before the episode takes place.

    Hope that helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sealurk View Post
    Artie mentions that he found the photo of Clara on the submarine in 1983 at school, and immediately asks if Clara's "boyfriend" is an alien... because of his chin(!). I'd say somebody is prompting them
    That does make more sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenee View Post
    What makes you think that? I mean, it is possible of course, but were there any hints in the last episodes, that she went home between adventures? But I do wonder what it meant that we saw the TARDIS leaving without her. I wasn't under the impression, the doctor would let her out of sight as long as he hasn't solved the mystery of who she is.
    At the end of the Rings of Akhaten he drops her back off at home. Now granted that doesn't mean that he hasn't necessarily taken her on several adventures in a row but given how she felt about still taking care of the kids in the first episode then I'm guessing that she has been back quite a few times.
    If nothing else the kids may have seen The TARDIS disappear during the Rings of Akhaten. And given that they possibly would realise that it was a police call box from the 1960's that disappeared then with a childs imagination they may have come to the conclusion that it was a time machine and decided to do a little digging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sealurk View Post
    Automated laser monkeys, scalpel mines, acid, projectile acid fish, pulver grenades, scissor grenades, limbo vapour, triple blast brain splitters, magnetic cluster mines, acid-filled trenches and grenades. LOTS of grenades and acid. Those are the ones I can remember anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skydiver View Post
    If all a person wants to do is come in and complain, it's their prerogative. As long as their criticism follows the rules, they can express it. What other users can do, if they don't want to read it, scroll fast or put that person on ignore. Think of it as a win/win. They can express themselves, you don' t have to read it.

    It sucks when a fandom becomes divided. When all people want to do is talk about the show, but all some want to do is express their frustration that the show has changed to something they no longer like, and since fandom usually means an emotional attachment to a show, people get emotional about those changes. The key is how folks handle that emotion.

    A little tolerance and mutual respect could go a long way.

    If a person hates the show...hate it. But think of your fellow forum members. Put yourself in their shoes. If you liked a show would you like it if someone perpetually came in and tore it apart?

    Those of you that still enjoy the show....how would you feel if it changed to the point that you no longer liked it and you lost that hour of enjoyment each week? Wouldn't you be upset? Learn to scroll. Failing that, put someone on ignore.


    If that was me I'm sorry.

    I just love the show but at times find little bits frustrate me. Modern Who is not like classic Who and I find things being changed just don't sit well with me sometimes.

    Sorry to anyone if any comments I made caused upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodAtum View Post
    I dont get the end, havent they heard photos can be photoshopped?
    But they know that Clara isn't good with computers..

    And if someone could photoshop Clara into those photos, why would they do it? A photo in a Russian submarine, a haunted house and a 19th century portrait.. it seems a little random for an evil internet sorcerer.. Photoshopping someone into a photo is usually to make it look like they did something they didn't do.. Or to add them to holiday photos.. Or just fun head swapping

    And then there's the problem of finding them.. I doubt there's a "Photoshopped Clara photos for surprising end of episode plot twist" site..

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    I wonder why Clara was so "shocked" by the picture that she couldn't remember being in. Wouldn't she just assume that's from an adventure with the Doctor that hasn't happened for her yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh Hamenthotep View Post
    But they know that Clara isn't good with computers..
    wasn't good with computers. She is now, since she absorbed knowledge from GI. May be that another reason they decided to launched their little investigation, with her suddenly becoming good/brilliant at using computers.

    And if someone could photoshop Clara into those photos, why would they do it? A photo in a Russian submarine, a haunted house and a 19th century portrait.. it seems a little random for an evil internet sorcerer.. Photoshopping someone into a photo is usually to make it look like they did something they didn't do.. Or to add them to holiday photos.. Or just fun head swapping
    presuming it is the GI, then he want those kids on the Tardis for a reason, possibly to distract the doctor, possible even help discovered his good side again, or may be to collect intelligence on him, infiltrate the Tardis.

    And then there's the problem of finding them.. I doubt there's a "Photoshopped Clara photos for surprising end of episode plot twist" site..
    Google image search. They got the orginal photos of the house security system of the Doctor, plus I am sure Clara have had her photo take with them or they got them the same way they got the doctors.

    Kids are pretty handy with computers nowadays. An the kids look reasonable intelligent to me.

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    I sometimes try to find pictures of myself on Google..

    Nothing yet..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh Hamenthotep View Post
    I sometimes try to find pictures of myself on Google..

    Nothing yet..
    I just Googled myself (fnarr fnarr) and the first five photos are pics I took, and the third one is a pic of me in my nice suit at a friend's wedding a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Pops View Post
    If that was me I'm sorry.

    I just love the show but at times find little bits frustrate me. Modern Who is not like classic Who and I find things being changed just don't sit well with me sometimes.

    Sorry to anyone if any comments I made caused upset.
    I'm sure I contribute too. I appreciate that this forum and subsection allows for diverse opinions. Outpost Gallifrey and some other Who forums are extremely clique-filled and allow for ZERO dissent, whether someone loves or detests an episode.

    New Who has become a more divisive show. I think this forum reflects the range of opinions, which is important.

    If I stop watching a show, I stop commenting on it or visiting its forums or folders. For example, I respect those who enjoy OUAT, but I won't critique what I no longer watch.

    I still care enough about Who to be upset about it. When I stop wanting to comment and read the views of others, it will be time to stop watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruTak View Post
    I just Googled myself (fnarr fnarr) and the first five photos are pics I took, and the third one is a pic of me in my nice suit at a friend's wedding a few years ago.
    Maybe it's just me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Pops View Post
    OMG the Doctor undergoing Phon Pharr......

    Either way the writing's a bit off in my opinion. And he snogged her too didn't he?
    The kiss (because of the type of kiss) was abrupt and largely out of line because we know Jenny is married. Had he kissed Clara, it would have looked like a man? happy to be alive and whole again.

    The Sonic vibrating at Jenny wasn't subtle either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasySyma View Post
    Outpost Gallifrey and some other Who forums are extremely clique-filled and allow for ZERO dissent, whether someone loves or detests an episode.
    You ain't just whistlin' Dixie, buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-90_177 View Post
    At the end of the Rings of Akhaten he drops her back off at home. Now granted that doesn't mean that he hasn't necessarily taken her on several adventures in a row but given how she felt about still taking care of the kids in the first episode then I'm guessing that she has been back quite a few times.
    If nothing else the kids may have seen The TARDIS disappear during the Rings of Akhaten. And given that they possibly would realise that it was a police call box from the 1960's that disappeared then with a childs imagination they may have come to the conclusion that it was a time machine and decided to do a little digging.
    Ah, ok. Did't remember that.
    As for the photos: Well, I think noone considerd, the pictures realy WERE photoshoped, did they? I mean, we know that the photos must be real, because, first, we've seen them (or at least some) being taken) second, because we know shes been in this places. The question was rather, why did the kids have no doubt at all, that this pictures were real.
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    NOt sure where the Photoshop theory is coming from. Why the hell would anyone Photoshop a relatively obscure woman. As for the kids, well kids will believe a lot of crazy things, it just turns out that this crazy thing was true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techs View Post
    I wonder why Clara was so "shocked" by the picture that she couldn't remember being in. Wouldn't she just assume that's from an adventure with the Doctor that hasn't happened for her yet?
    Actually, most people tend to think linear with time, not timey-whimey. It likely wouldn't occur to her that she hadn't been there YET. We remember the past, and are not necessarily very good at projecting ourselves into future situations. Likely, after she has been with the Doctor a bit longer, she will think more "outside the box".

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