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    SGU Kickstarter?

    It took fans just 10 hours to get a new Veronica Mars project up and running [$2m worth] on Kickstarter. It worked because Warner Brothers okayed the attempt.
    Want to see SGU completed?
    This might be the way it gets done, but it will take a lot more than $2m. We'll see how much the Mars project pulls in over the full 30 days.
    Someone in a position to get the ball rolling needs to talk to MGM.

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    Not sure about the situation for Veronica Mars, but for SGU it would require enough money to:

    A) Rebuild the sets (some of it still survives in one form or another, but it was quite an expansive (and expensive) amount of sets.

    B) Enough to entice the actors back, some of whom are busy on other projects now.

    If it was not for those hiccups, I would believe it could be possible. But those are major obstacles. 2 million would not be even close enough to do it. The two movies for SG-1 cost 7 million apiece, if I recall, and that was with the sets still standing and the actors not particularly busy.
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      #3
      well - 2 million would "entice" (because it shows that Stargate (in what-ever form) is not dead!)

      i am not sure that something like this should be dedicated solely to SGU...i would dedicate something like this to stargate as a whole - why?

      well:

      1. there are fans that do not like SGU and so one could collect more money - what would be done with it would be up to the producers then

      2. and even a new show or - at best (as unlikely as that is) - a continuation of SG-1/SGA would IMHO be better then SGU (also, in the end, i liked that, too (first season was bad, but the second was quite enjoyable, also i still hated a lot of the characters (Colonel Young for example, that IOA women, that Lt. that was Youngs SIC, that uncontrollable and undisciplined Sergeant and a few more)...loved some of the others thoug (Eli because he reminds me of myself (also i am not all that good in maths), Dr. Rush - selfish bastard but i like him etc.))

      so, yeah, i would give them some - at least if they allowed me to get the show at the same time as the US-Viewers (in english - i do not need it translated to german), even if i had to download it myself (without using "illegal" means)

      greetings LAX

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        #4
        I'm sorry but there is no way in hell some one could raise enough for a episode let a lone a movie for stargate, UNLESS they decided to finish sgu or a film off as an animation

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          #5
          Originally posted by Laxian of Earth View Post
          well - 2 million would "entice"
          2 million would not do anything. I read somewhere that the sets for destiny alone cost something like $20million to build. Imagine a further 2 million per episode. I recall someone somewhere saying it would cost around $150 million just for a new series with 20 episodes.

          The reality is unless you can actually raise that amount (and with a show that few knew of and even fewer loyal fans) it's just not going to happen. Don't get me wrong, I wish it would as I really miss it but we have to be realistic here: Unless one of us makes mega money and personally bank rolls a 3rd series or movie, it's not going to happen.

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            #6
            Why do sets costs so much, I wonder? They're made out of ordinary materials, right? Is it the labor?
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              #7
              The only hope of an SGU resolution/continuation is with novels, and even that looks highly unlikely.

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                #8
                Sadly this won't happen. Most of the actors have moved on, Carlyle's on Once Upon a Time which isn't going anywhere for the time being. One thing this could work with is Blood & Chrome since it's mostly CGI sets etc.

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                  #9
                  I don't think SGU cost 150 million just to set up plus 2 million an episode...SyFy is acting like the upcoming Defiance is their biggest project yet by far, though of course some of that is the game and the marketing.

                  SGU was expensive, though...better CGI and more complicated sets, so of course it was expensive. And the only way this could EVER work in theory would be movie format, because there's no way the fans could provide enough money for a full season.
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                    #10
                    You could do a kickstarter for a season 3 of SGU.
                    It was $2m an episode so $40m. Call it $75 million to rebuild etc.
                    If you get people to pay $50 for a season, 20 episodes-- (which all of us would)
                    You would need 1.5 million takers. Thats do able. Considering more people watched the show.
                    Now, when you factor in larger kickstarter prizes like $1,000 and $5,000 levels the number probably drops to a million.

                    Finally, this wouldn't even take into effect advertising revenue from product placement and possible commercial before each episode.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by min min light View Post
                      Why do sets costs so much, I wonder? They're made out of ordinary materials, right? Is it the labor?
                      You remember the corridor that was supposed to run to the seed ship? - That was dual purpose. It had sliding walls that came down from the ceiling to make it look like a different corridor. There was something like 10 sections to that corridor. Imagine the cost of making each section, installing the roller tracks, decorating the panels, making the stickers, then building the floor above (remember those above head shots? - they had to support an entire floor for the camera man). Then the whole thing was built up off the floor on a raised platform.

                      Then you have the plastic moulds, those had to be made in order to make things. Then the big things like sliding compartment doors, further rails, more stickers (for door bolts etc), props, weapons, uniforms / costumes, designers (hit ebay and find some of the rare plans - they designed everything on paper first), staff to build things from plans, staff to build sets, staff to supply the workers with tea / coffee, tools (I think the set of destiny used more than just a drill), special effects, cost of studio hire (you can't move a huge wooden set like that so you pay full time hire on the studio), screws, nails, light bulbs (notice the underfloor lighting in destiny?), electronics, the stargate itself (which was actually really controlled by the dialling computer hence the electronics), door open / close controls, upper floors (like that from the destiny gate room)... the list could go on and on. Thats just for destiny. Then you have the shuttles and other sets like the alien space ships. Oh and then you have the amound of time it takes to do it all too. Multiply that hourly rate by the amount of staff you have working for you (in an expensive industry) and it all adds up.

                      I don't think you'd build an entire set like that for 500k in reality. On top of that you then have the cost of the actors. The camera crew, production crew, editors, CGI specialists, Brad, Jo, extras..

                      To you it might just look like a few bits of wood painted black that form the walls on destiny. The the people that made it, it's a huge wooden structure with multiple floors that also has to be certified as safe. Then you have to remember that someone had to design it, etc, etc. It's a huge task to build a set like that.
                      Last edited by Energizer_Vs_ZPM; 14 March 2013, 12:29 PM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by sjleader View Post
                        If you get people to pay $50 for a season, 20 episodes-- (which all of us would)
                        You say we all would but would we? I don't have any spare cash, I'm unemployed! Even if I did, would I put forward $50 for something I don't think stands a hope of materialising? - Probably not.

                        Don't get me wrong, if you can get a kickstarter going and it starts to rake in the millions, I'll do my best to contribute towards it too but I just don't see it happening. If anyone does start a kickstart though I will wish them the best of luck and keep my fingers crossed that I'm proven wrong. I'd love a new series of SGU.

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                          #13
                          I'd forget SGU and concentrate on a new series that loosely links up with the other 3 to avoid having expensive actors.

                          Approach the studio and ask how much money do you want for the legal permission to create a new series. At the end of the day it's a business, if it can be shown to make money I can't see why they would block it, unless there is some hidden agenda to kill it off and then reboot.

                          Use Kickstarter to finance a pilot episode.

                          Tout the pilot to every TV station around the world, whilst getting Stargate fans to write in and say they want to see it.

                          Also release later as a DVD and on the web with advertising supported viewing. Get this; advertising means every time a fan watches it for free it makes money. Result!!

                          The pilot should make profit which could then be invested back into making some more episodes.

                          The fans get more Stargate, the studios get rich. Everybody gets what they want.

                          Unfortunately in the real world it may prove harder to organise. RIP Stargate

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                            #14
                            With its higher pre-/post-production costs and larger cast than Veronica Mars, I can't see this being an option for something like SGU.

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                              #15
                              I'd prefer for there to be an Atlantis film, there was going to be one but then it got shelved, and I would prefer to see that then a continuation of SGU. I liked SGU, but I liked Atlantis more. But I doubt it'll happen.
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