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    Default Did Eli fix the Stasis pod or come up with another solution?

    Did Eli fix the Stasis pod or come up with another solution?

    Thoughts?

    I think he may of used the Shuttle and modified it with parts from the broken pod to jerry-rig the Shuttle into being a stasis pod in the rear hatch.

    What solutions would you use for the 2 weeks he had left?

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    Fixing the pod would be too easy and too boring for a season opener. I suspect he would have stored himself in the gate like Teal'c then left instruction to get him out in the form of Ginn or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEK View Post
    Fixing the pod would be too easy and too boring for a season opener. I suspect he would have stored himself in the gate like Teal'c then left instruction to get him out in the form of Ginn or something.
    Ginn?? If they had Ginn, wouldn't they, like use it on GINN??

    I always thought Eli used the "Franklin Procedure".


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    Quote Originally Posted by KEK View Post
    Fixing the pod would be too easy and too boring for a season opener. I suspect he would have stored himself in the gate like Teal'c then left instruction to get him out in the form of Ginn or something.
    This has been my thinking for a while too - blacklist every other gate out there, set the gate to store the matter stream in the buffer and then reactivate when the ship arrives or there is an emergency etc.

    I started on a fanfic where Eli is woken and finds another seed ship - I was going to put him in a seed ship gate myself but I've still not written that part yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by rushy View Post
    I always thought Eli used the "Franklin Procedure".
    What and leave himself without a body? - What would be the point of that?

    The stargate can actually hold the matter stream indefinitely (no need for oxygen or life support) so this is the most viable option. Seeing as no-one other than earth will try to dial the destiny the gate would be safe but a blacklist on the gate would secure eli.

    For all we know, what with destiny being hooked directly into the gate, the stream may be transferrable to destiny itself.

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    I like the storing in buffer idea.
    But it doesn't seem realistic, Eli only has limited knowledge on how the Gates work.

    He watched a SGC doco by Daniel I doubt it would of covered that.

    He could of used the stones to go back to Earth as much as he wanted for information and second opinions.

    I really doubt the Eli being integrated into the Destiny would of flown though, he was the main character they wouldn't have him run around without a real body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilenceOz View Post
    I like the storing in buffer idea.
    But it doesn't seem realistic, Eli only has limited knowledge on how the Gates work.
    But he does have a good understanding of digital technologies so why would he not think about it?

    Even your computer that you're using has buffers all over the place for filestream usage. When your browser downloaded this forum page it was stored in a buffer temporarily until it had finished downloading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rushy View Post
    Ginn?? If they had Ginn, wouldn't they, like use it on GINN??
    I'm not sure what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEK View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean.
    If they had access to a healthy Ginn body, wouldn't they transfer Ginn's consciousness from the Destiny mainframe over to Ginn's body??

    As for "the Franklin Procedure", I believe it'd be possible to re-construct the body. This is Ancient tech after all. The only reason I think they didn't use it to restore Franklin was because he was technically dead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rushy View Post
    If they had access to a healthy Ginn body
    Nobody said anything about a "healthy Ginn body".

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    I don't know if I would store myself in the gate buffer, just because if the Lucian Alliance managed to dial Destiny again, it would erase me. If I could develop a workaround in Destiny's dialing computer to prevent incoming wormholes of any nature, then I'd do it. Although by that same token, if I were in a stasis pod and the Lucie's dialed Destiny, I'd probably be dead from that too unless they failed to discover the stasis room.

    Otherwise, I probably would've used the communications stones to collaborate on Earth with folks like Carter and McKay to fix the stasis pod. Who knows, maybe they could use Atlantis' Holo Room to create or look up schematics for Destiny's stasis pods and figure out the areas that need to be addressed and how.

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    Wouldn't the genius that is Eli be able to come up with a way of setting the gate so that it thinks it's already dialled, or similar, to prevent another incoming connection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    Otherwise, I probably would've used the communications stones to collaborate on Earth with folks like Carter and McKay to fix the stasis pod. Who knows, maybe they could use Atlantis' Holo Room to create or look up schematics for Destiny's stasis pods and figure out the areas that need to be addressed and how.

    That was my thoughts as well,
    Eli could of used the Stones to speak to anyone on Earth or have someone from Atlantis gate over to brain storm ideas.
    Or ask Atlantis Knowledge base hologram for advice.

    The only problem I have is that I doubt Atlantis would have much more info on the pod's than Destiny does as they only seemed to be used on Destiny and Atlantis has a different sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    I don't know if I would store myself in the gate buffer, just because if the Lucian Alliance managed to dial Destiny again, it would erase me.
    We know from Atlantis (as I've already pointed out, that the gates can operate on a blacklist or whitelist and have addresses rejected or accepted. This is how the wraith never managed to dial into Atlantis in the 10k years that it was submerged - because Earth was the only address on the whitelist.

    We also know that gates can be turned on and off. Eli demonstrated this and used it to signal the Destiny in morse code when the drones had cleared off.

    We also know that Destiny is hard wired to its own gate via the dialling terminals.

    I think its safe to assume that Eli could turn off any transmission or reception while being stored in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilenceOz View Post
    The only problem I have is that I doubt Atlantis would have much more info on the pod's than Destiny does as they only seemed to be used on Destiny and Atlantis has a different sort.
    Well, maybe nobody has known what to look for on Atlantis' database, we know that until the crew actually reached Destiny, nobody had a clue what the nine chevron address was actually going to accomplish. It's possible now that the Tau'ri have knowledge of Destiny, that inputting the proper inquiry into the database would turn up some results.

    Quote Originally Posted by Energizer_Vs_ZPM View Post
    We know from Atlantis (as I've already pointed out, that the gates can operate on a blacklist or whitelist and have addresses rejected or accepted. This is how the wraith never managed to dial into Atlantis in the 10k years that it was submerged - because Earth was the only address on the whitelist.

    We also know that gates can be turned on and off. Eli demonstrated this and used it to signal the Destiny in morse code when the drones had cleared off.

    We also know that Destiny is hard wired to its own gate via the dialling terminals.

    I think its safe to assume that Eli could turn off any transmission or reception while being stored in it.
    Who knows if the ability to blacklist gates is even available with Destiny's gate technology, Atlantis' gates are the newest incarnation of them and it's also the only place we've seen other gates blacklisted (that I can remember). Also, consider that Destiny's address is an access code, so it's really no different than the Atlantis Expedition dialing the city from Earth. The right factors were in play and the wormhole was established.

    Now, I don't doubt Eli's ability (especially if he communicated with Earth to collaborate) to block even a nine-chevron dial attempt, but that would in theory block everyone including our own people which would probably wouldn't be very wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    Who knows if the ability to blacklist gates is even available with Destiny's gate technology, Atlantis' gates are the newest incarnation of them and it's also the only place we've seen other gates blacklisted (that I can remember).
    Well the SGC is able to blacklist other gates with their 'basic' dialling computer / interface to the gate so there is no reason why the ancients 'advanced' technology on their 'early' gates could not do the same thing. It would be almost certain that such a basic ability would be built into the gates from the start.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    Also, consider that Destiny's address is an access code, so it's really no different than the Atlantis Expedition dialing the city from Earth. The right factors were in play and the wormhole was established.
    I thought the 9th chevron was an additional range calculation myself.. we know thats what the producers intended to introduce as there was a scene with McKay and Zelenka arguing about it - the scene was deleted though but this was clearly the line of thought the producers were looking to introduce.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    Now, I don't doubt Eli's ability (especially if he communicated with Earth to collaborate) to block even a nine-chevron dial attempt, but that would in theory block everyone including our own people which would probably wouldn't be very wise.
    No it wouldn't. All it would do would mean that when the stasis pods woke the crew, the gate would also re-activate and Eli would walk through OR he could just do something really simple.. like leaving a note on the dialling terminal saying "Press here to save Eli - don't dial anywhere else". Like I said though, Destiny is a mysterious and advanced ship, for all we know it may well be able to transfer buffers between itself and the gate. We don't know that it can but we also don't know that it can't either so it remains a plausible theory.

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    Default Re: Did Eli fix the Stasis pod or come up with another solution?

    Only real question is, how much power (which they're drastically short of, remember) does it take to fire up the Stargate and store Eli for three years? Otherwise, it seems like a pretty plausible way out of their problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizer_Vs_ZPM View Post
    Well the SGC is able to blacklist other gates with their 'basic' dialling computer / interface to the gate so there is no reason why the ancients 'advanced' technology on their 'early' gates could not do the same thing. It would be almost certain that such a basic ability would be built into the gates from the start.
    The SGC also jury-rigged a Puddle Jumper to allow Atlantis to cloak itself. So it's not to say that the tech isn't capable of such functions, but rather that the Ancients possibly, like the Asgard, advanced to such a state that they maybe didn't think of more creative uses of their technology. So Destiny may not have the innate ability to block any incoming wormholes, but it's something that the Tau'ri could probably "tweak" to do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Energizer_Vs_ZPM View Post
    I thought the 9th chevron was an additional range calculation myself.. we know thats what the producers intended to introduce as there was a scene with McKay and Zelenka arguing about it - the scene was deleted though but this was clearly the line of thought the producers were looking to introduce.
    Yeah, that might have been the initial course TPTB wanted to go but apparently they changed their mind in Air, Part 1 since Eli determined that it may be the case and his hypothesis was confirmed when they used Earth's Point of Origin and a wormhole connected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Energizer_Vs_ZPM View Post
    No it wouldn't. All it would do would mean that when the stasis pods woke the crew, the gate would also re-activate and Eli would walk through OR he could just do something really simple.. like leaving a note on the dialling terminal saying "Press here to save Eli - don't dial anywhere else". Like I said though, Destiny is a mysterious and advanced ship, for all we know it may well be able to transfer buffers between itself and the gate. We don't know that it can but we also don't know that it can't either so it remains a plausible theory.
    Yeah, I can see that succeeding except if there were a problem and either the stasis pods failed and the crew died and/or there was a miscalculation and Destiny dropped out of FTL long before reaching the next galaxy and simply drifted. They determined if that were to happen they would be drifting for a few thousand years at least.

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    Easy way to get round cast not renewing their contract too: stasis pod malfunction...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    The SGC also jury-rigged a Puddle Jumper to allow Atlantis to cloak itself.
    The SGC? I thought it was McKay and Zelenka?

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