Henry's Father? (Spoilers/Speculation)

[Remybug]

His FTL persona is also Smee.... Peter Pan has yet to be identified. I would think with the addition of Hook this season, we are bound to find out who Peter and Tinkerbell are.

I assume that Neal Cassidy (thief/Henry's dad) is a member of FTL. He believed August too quickly. I think Bae will be Peter Pan... Not sure if he's Neal. I originally thought Neal was jack.... From jack and the beanstalk.

[jelgate]

No, William Smee is not Peter Pan. He is Hook's companion in the story of Peter Pan.

Yes he is. Never does it say Peter Pan was not orginally part of Hook's crew. OUAT has taken some creative liberties with fairytales and the guy of not wanting to turn old does fit the Peter Pan persona

[hedwig]

That doesn't work as they have already identified who is Peter Pan in Fairytale land. This was after Balefire fell through the portal

Who is Peter Pan in Fairytale Land? You aren't referring to the Peter that Red/Ruby thought was the wolf and whom Red wound up killing, are you? Because that Peter was from Peter and the Wolf, and not Peter Pan.

[Livestick]

Who is Peter Pan in Fairytale Land? You aren't referring to the Peter that Red/Ruby thought was the wolf and whom Red wound up killing, are you? Because that Peter was from Peter and the Wolf, and not Peter Pan.

Read up a little bit. He said it's Smee, which makes no sense at all, but good luck convincing him of that.

[hedwig]

Read up a little bit. He said it's Smee, which makes no sense at all, but good luck convincing him of that.

I googled "Once Upon a Time and Smee" and it indicated that "Smee" was played by Chris Gauthier in the 4th episode of 2 season episode where he (Smee) kidnaps Belle. I haven't seen that episode, so I don't know what kidnapping Belle would have to do with Peter Pan just because of the name.

I hope to catch up on all episodes fairly soon. Tonight ABC is having a short "marathon" of three of Season 2's episodes; unfortunately, not that one.

[Livestick]

I googled "Once Upon a Time and Smee" and it indicated that "Smee" was played by Chris Gauthier in the 4th episode of 2 season episode where he (Smee) kidnaps Belle. I haven't seen that episode, so I don't know what kidnapping Belle would have to do with Peter Pan just because of the name.

I hope to catch up on all episodes fairly soon. Tonight ABC is having a short "marathon" of three of Season 2's episodes; unfortunately, not that one.

I don't think that's it. Jel's reasoning seems to be that Smee is Peter Pan because he wanted Rumpelstiltskin to give him eternal youth. Because obviously not dying of old age is something that only Peter Pan would want.

[hedwig]

I don't think that's it. Jel's reasoning seems to be that Smee is Peter Pan because he wanted Rumpelstiltskin to give him eternal youth. Because obviously not dying of old age is something that only Peter Pan would want.

When I googled Once Upon a Time and Smee, I also came across information that said the producers want to bring in Peter Pan, Wendy and Tinkerbell, but have not cast them yet, and have yet to write an appropriate storyline for them. Given that information, then Smee is not Peter Pan.

[rkgardner2003]

Well, now we know!

[garhkal]

Yup.. And man was it a humdinger!

[Mrja84]

Yup.. And man was it a humdinger!

Everyone kinda knew it from the start. So now that is it finally done, let's see what happens.

[Girlbot]

but it would be a bit unbelievable that three "off-world" strangers could find each other so easily.

It seemed all too convenient. Small world that it was that easy.
Plus the fact that he was not only Henry's father, but Rumple's son. Makes it seem that Emma didn't have many choices in life, it was magically fated that all this came together. But then again, that is Fairy Tale writing.

[Mrja84]

It seemed all too convenient. Small world that it was that easy.
Plus the fact that he was not only Henry's father, but Rumple's son. Makes it seem that Emma didn't have many choices in life, it was magically fated that all this came together. But then again, that is Fairy Tale writing.

Don't forget Rumpel used magic to pinpoint where his son was in the world. As for having Emma and him meet and give birth to Henry. Well, it's not magic. Sure the Seer saw the future, but that just meant she saw it was going to happen.

It's like viewing a movie, no matter how much you rewatch it, it will remain the same. It's not magic as magic doesn't exist in our world. So it was merely stating that their choices meant they were going to meet.

For instance, the choices I made in life caused me to move out of the state I grew up in and live just two blocks away from a girl I would meet 11 months after I moved in that apartment. That girl would become my girlfriend 13 months after I moved to that location.

There was no outside force, just the choices we made (and the choices the people around us made) meant we were going to meet. We couldn't see the future, but once it passed we could see the tiny moments where our choices put us on the path where we were to cross.

I do think in terms of story-telling there is going to be a larger destiny for Emma than just breaking the curse. Recall Rumpel's actions caused Jimney to become a cricket when Gepetto was a child, now Gepetto is an old man. So Rumpel was told of his part in starting the curse decades before it the curse was enacted.

Rumpel is just as much a pawn as anyone else. These characters and their motivations are placing them on a path we cannot yet see. They are trying to change their circumstances but all their previous choices have placed them on the paths they follow.

The one exception, Regina. She was on a path of redemption and now that is all gone as she seems to be plotting the detahs of the Snow and Charming family.

[poundpuppy29]

it was too convenient for me who Adult Bae was I was underwhelmed I see the Storylines potential but how we met adult Bae & how we saw how Bae was as a child it doesn't seem like the same character to me

[hedwig]

it was too convenient for me who Adult Bae was I was underwhelmed I see the Storylines potential but how we met adult Bae & how we saw how Bae was as a child it doesn't seem like the same character to me

Bae as a child and as an adult are obvioiusly not the same person. The child went through some very difficult experiences when thrown into the non-magical world. He was a teenager who had to adapt to this world and learn how to survive in it. Adult Bae was formed by all that he had experienced so, of course, he's not going to be the same person he was as a child.

[the fifth man]

Bae as a child and as an adult are obvioiusly not the same person. The child went through some very difficult experiences when thrown into the non-magical world. He was a teenager who had to adapt to this world and learn how to survive in it. Adult Bae was formed by all that he had experienced so, of course, he's not going to be the same person he was as a child.

I totally agree. It will be interesting to see where things go with him from here.