I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in a thread like this but I'm going to try posting it anyway and see what happens.
While I thoroughly enjoy all things Stargate, there are certainly a lot of mistakes and inconsistencies in among the 3 shows. While I don't intend on "putting down" Stargate in these posts I do think it's fun sometimes to take a second look at movies or shows after you've seen them before and look for things that don't quite make sense or fit. What's also fun about it is when you see these things, perhaps certain people interpret them differently and it's nice to bounce them off of others and see what they think or see if they can come up with a theory as to "why that happened that way".
Just tonight I started re-watching SG-1. (I know I know, I should have done it with Gateworld and wish I did. I will be watching Universe with the Gateworld community though!) Specifically, Children of the Gods tonight and noticed quite a few things that are inconsistent from the rest of the show. The reasoning behind them may be evident and it may not (budget, writing, time constraints, streamlining production, etc.) but it's still fun to point them out and talk about them. Could be anything, conflicting information from dialogue, continuity errors, plot holes, you name it you list it!
I'll start off by posting some things I noticed during Children of the Gods. I probably left a few out because I didn't start taking note of them until half way through the episode.
Obvious spoilers to anyone who hasn't seen certain episodes from here on in.
S01E01 Children of the Gods
1. According to this episode, the sign that the gate is becoming active is that the whole facility shakes violently with mugs and various items on tables moving around. Later on the facility gets more established and they install various things to alert people of what's going on. But after those things are installed (ie. the alarm) the only sign the gate is active is when the alarm goes off. The facility doesn't shake anymore. I get why it caused the shaking for introduction purposes but it bugs me that that stops happening in the show. As the show goes on I understand they don't want to spend a lot of time on repetitive and becoming more insignificant things as they have a lot of show to do in a small amount of time. But that doesn't change the fact that it still bugs me
2. As we know from later on in the show, wormhole travel through a gate goes one way and one way only. However in this episode Apophis, Teal'c and the rest of his goons enter the SGC through the gate and while it's still active, grab Sgt. Weterings and walk back through the puddle.
3. During the firefight in that same scene, the Jaffa armor seems to be nearly impenetrable by the weapons being used against them. In later episodes, Jaffa are easily taken down with weapons in the field from various SG teams including the end of the episode when they are trying to escape with the refugees through the gate.
4. As I'm just going episode to episode, there might be something to explain this one later on. When they are observing the body of the Jaffa killed in the gate room incursion at the beginning of the episode he has the First Prime of Apophis on his forehead.
5. Traveling through the gate is mentioned as being cold, very cold. When the SG teams travel through the gate they are covered in frost both on their equipment and their faces. Now I can't recall specifically but isn't this touched on in a later episode? Something Sam says and maybe does to avoid being so cold and frosty?
6. The buttons on the DHD we see used by Daniel and Apophis are touch activated in the pilot, rather than buttons that actually get pushed down as we see later on in the show.
7. When Teal'c helps Sam, Jack and Daniel escape the large cell holding the group in which some will be "chosen" O'Neill blasts a hole through the wall with a staff weapon for them all to escape. He only shoots twice yet this huge hole appears. Never again do we see a staff weapon with such power.
8. When the SG-1 and SG-2 teams head out to find Sha're and run into the group of inhabitants on the new planet Daniel speaks with them and says "it's a derivation of Arabic". My Arabic isn't great but as far as I know we don't hear Teal'c speak any sort of Arabic type language and he's supposedly from Chulak, which we later find out is the planet they are on. Which brings me to the next point...
9. Those same people bring SG-1 to Chulak, Chulak being the town/city. According to Stargate Wiki, Chulak is both the name of a city and the name of the planet. Is this ever really explained in the show? Teal'c often says his home is on Chulak rather than in Chulak the city. I suppose that's proof enough thinking about it now.
10. During the glider fight at the end of the episode, Teacl'c and O'Neill are shooting at the glider, the glider is shooting at them, people are screaming everywhere and a lot of noise is being made. At some point we see a shot of Apophis and other Goa'uld at the Stargate. Kowalski shoots down the glider and a couple of seconds later it's crashing down virtually right beside the Stargate with Apophis and his friends looking at it. So they were at the gate with Jaffa soldiers and had no indication that there was even a remote sign of trouble or anything going on? Come on...
11. In this episode, the IDC codes are explained to open the iris. The hints of their codes being "locked out" means there is some kind of automated system in place. When Sam punches in the code the iris automatically opens because of it. In every other instance I can think of the iris is opened manually by someone at a computer pushing a button.
Last but not least, what the heck is with the rock throwing ape man's awful wig? The fact that you can see his "forehead skin covering" so easily and that it doesn't come close to matching his skin color is so distracting!
He is a boss though, going up against an army of Jaffa with nothing but rocks to chuck at them!
While I thoroughly enjoy all things Stargate, there are certainly a lot of mistakes and inconsistencies in among the 3 shows. While I don't intend on "putting down" Stargate in these posts I do think it's fun sometimes to take a second look at movies or shows after you've seen them before and look for things that don't quite make sense or fit. What's also fun about it is when you see these things, perhaps certain people interpret them differently and it's nice to bounce them off of others and see what they think or see if they can come up with a theory as to "why that happened that way".
Just tonight I started re-watching SG-1. (I know I know, I should have done it with Gateworld and wish I did. I will be watching Universe with the Gateworld community though!) Specifically, Children of the Gods tonight and noticed quite a few things that are inconsistent from the rest of the show. The reasoning behind them may be evident and it may not (budget, writing, time constraints, streamlining production, etc.) but it's still fun to point them out and talk about them. Could be anything, conflicting information from dialogue, continuity errors, plot holes, you name it you list it!
I'll start off by posting some things I noticed during Children of the Gods. I probably left a few out because I didn't start taking note of them until half way through the episode.
Obvious spoilers to anyone who hasn't seen certain episodes from here on in.
S01E01 Children of the Gods
1. According to this episode, the sign that the gate is becoming active is that the whole facility shakes violently with mugs and various items on tables moving around. Later on the facility gets more established and they install various things to alert people of what's going on. But after those things are installed (ie. the alarm) the only sign the gate is active is when the alarm goes off. The facility doesn't shake anymore. I get why it caused the shaking for introduction purposes but it bugs me that that stops happening in the show. As the show goes on I understand they don't want to spend a lot of time on repetitive and becoming more insignificant things as they have a lot of show to do in a small amount of time. But that doesn't change the fact that it still bugs me
2. As we know from later on in the show, wormhole travel through a gate goes one way and one way only. However in this episode Apophis, Teal'c and the rest of his goons enter the SGC through the gate and while it's still active, grab Sgt. Weterings and walk back through the puddle.
3. During the firefight in that same scene, the Jaffa armor seems to be nearly impenetrable by the weapons being used against them. In later episodes, Jaffa are easily taken down with weapons in the field from various SG teams including the end of the episode when they are trying to escape with the refugees through the gate.
A possible argument could include different weapons and ammo for different purposes, ie. field vs. gate room protection when not expecting anything.
As well, it could come down to time constraints and moving the plot forward in a timely manner.
4. As I'm just going episode to episode, there might be something to explain this one later on. When they are observing the body of the Jaffa killed in the gate room incursion at the beginning of the episode he has the First Prime of Apophis on his forehead.
5. Traveling through the gate is mentioned as being cold, very cold. When the SG teams travel through the gate they are covered in frost both on their equipment and their faces. Now I can't recall specifically but isn't this touched on in a later episode? Something Sam says and maybe does to avoid being so cold and frosty?
6. The buttons on the DHD we see used by Daniel and Apophis are touch activated in the pilot, rather than buttons that actually get pushed down as we see later on in the show.
7. When Teal'c helps Sam, Jack and Daniel escape the large cell holding the group in which some will be "chosen" O'Neill blasts a hole through the wall with a staff weapon for them all to escape. He only shoots twice yet this huge hole appears. Never again do we see a staff weapon with such power.
8. When the SG-1 and SG-2 teams head out to find Sha're and run into the group of inhabitants on the new planet Daniel speaks with them and says "it's a derivation of Arabic". My Arabic isn't great but as far as I know we don't hear Teal'c speak any sort of Arabic type language and he's supposedly from Chulak, which we later find out is the planet they are on. Which brings me to the next point...
9. Those same people bring SG-1 to Chulak, Chulak being the town/city. According to Stargate Wiki, Chulak is both the name of a city and the name of the planet. Is this ever really explained in the show? Teal'c often says his home is on Chulak rather than in Chulak the city. I suppose that's proof enough thinking about it now.
10. During the glider fight at the end of the episode, Teacl'c and O'Neill are shooting at the glider, the glider is shooting at them, people are screaming everywhere and a lot of noise is being made. At some point we see a shot of Apophis and other Goa'uld at the Stargate. Kowalski shoots down the glider and a couple of seconds later it's crashing down virtually right beside the Stargate with Apophis and his friends looking at it. So they were at the gate with Jaffa soldiers and had no indication that there was even a remote sign of trouble or anything going on? Come on...
11. In this episode, the IDC codes are explained to open the iris. The hints of their codes being "locked out" means there is some kind of automated system in place. When Sam punches in the code the iris automatically opens because of it. In every other instance I can think of the iris is opened manually by someone at a computer pushing a button.
Last but not least, what the heck is with the rock throwing ape man's awful wig? The fact that you can see his "forehead skin covering" so easily and that it doesn't come close to matching his skin color is so distracting!
He is a boss though, going up against an army of Jaffa with nothing but rocks to chuck at them!
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