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    Default why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    OK so they want info about the brotherhood so they torture that guy and he gives it to them.... but then they just keep going anyway.... IN FULL VIEW OF THE OTHER PRISONERS. I wonder how their next interrogation went?
    guard: tell me what I want to know before that giant rat thing burrows though your chest
    prisoner: no you'll just kill me any way.... you always bloody do
    guard: errrrr promise I won't this time?
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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    They're the bad guys.


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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ukko View Post
    They're the bad guys.
    even an amoral person wouldn't hurt someone if not doing so was in their interest

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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    Of course they would. They're idiots as well as bad guys. Tywin said as much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukko View Post
    Of course they would. They're idiots as well as bad guys. Tywin said as much.
    even small children can understand "go back on your word and people won't trust you any more"

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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    They can understand "dont stick your hand in the flame, it burns" aswell, but children still get burned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukko View Post
    They can understand "dont stick your hand in the flame, it burns" aswell, but children still get burned.
    children often do stupid stuff because theirs as slaves to their emotions and impulses not because they don't understand why they shouldn't, these men aren't children

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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    Quote Originally Posted by slimjim View Post
    children often do stupid stuff because theirs as slaves to their emotions and impulses not because they don't understand why they shouldn't, these men aren't children
    Then why bring children into it?


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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ukko View Post
    Then why bring children into it?
    I didn't say kids weren't pretty dumb as well as being emotionally immature

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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    They're sadists. The entire point is that Harrenhal has become this mad hellhole and the Lannister soldiers have been torturing people for so long they don't really care about information, they're just doing it for their own amusement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mighty 6 platoon View Post
    They're sadists. The entire point is that Harrenhal has become this mad hellhole and the Lannister soldiers have been torturing people for so long they don't really care about information, they're just doing it for their own amusement.
    did you get that from the books? because if so I don't except it as an explanation for something in the TV show

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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    because they can.

    its as simple as that.
    remember in feudal societies, peasants and lower class don't mean **** to higher ups. they can rape pillage and burn whatever they want because as far as society is concerned its their right.

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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morbo View Post
    because they can.

    its as simple as that.
    remember in feudal societies, peasants and lower class don't mean **** to higher ups. they can rape pillage and burn whatever they want because as far as society is concerned its their right.
    they can't if they need peasants to be cooperative
    given this was suppose to be the south judging by their accent those guards weren't any one's "higher ups"

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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    Quote Originally Posted by slimjim View Post
    did you get that from the books? because if so I don't except it as an explanation for something in the TV show
    No, it's clear in the tv show that the guards are sadists doing it for their own enjoyment.

    How much more do you need? A dictionary definition of sadism to pop up?

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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mighty 6 platoon View Post
    No, it's clear in the tv show that the guards are sadists doing it for their own enjoyment.
    no it isn't.... at all

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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    Quote Originally Posted by slimjim View Post
    no it isn't.... at all
    Err yes it is. The guards are all laughing and joking while torturing people, and aren't really that interested in the answers to the questions. They are taking pleasure from inflicting pain on others, that's sadism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mighty 6 platoon View Post
    No, it's clear in the tv show that the guards are sadists doing it for their own enjoyment.

    How much more do you need? A dictionary definition of sadism to pop up?
    It would appear the definition is needed

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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    Quote Originally Posted by magictrick View Post
    It would appear the definition is needed
    Indeed. Clearly the makers of Game of Thrones drastically overestimated the intelligence of a certain section of the audience.

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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    They're bad guys, it's what they do.

    they're bored and have an overabundance of prisoners so why not torture them and see what happens?

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    Default Re: why would the guards looking for "the brotherhood" torture people to death?

    they're bored, sadist. It's simple. It's also in books, for example vargo Hoat

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