The Stable Boy (118)

[GateWorld]

ONCE UPON A TIME - SEASON ONE THE STABLE BOY EPISODE NUMBER - 118 Under the thumb of her wicked and powerful mother, the young Regina's love of a poor stable boy is complicated by the arrival of a young girl. Mary Margaret tries to defend her innocence before the district attorney, and Emma finds a new clue. VISIT THE EPISODE GUIDE >>

[tomstone]

So we finally got an answer on what Snow did. That story was very sad, but I kind of understand her anger now.

Also now we got a little hint on who the Writer really is.

Spoiler:

The way he said that she of all People should trust him was so obvious. Who is the only kind of Person that could claim that? Familiars. He is freaking grown up Henry.

Just to make sure I saw that right. The Woman that popped up in the end looks just like Emma. What the heck is happening?

[VampyreWraith]

I loved this episode, loved Regina in it. I felt bad for her(though I don't think Snow was at fault for what happened to Daniel). Regina is one of my favorite characters, and I really liked the backstory. The relationship between Regina and her mother really reminded me of the relationship I had with my mother(minus the magic and the murder of course ).

I'm glad Emma found out about Sidney, and I really liked August in this episode too.

[VampyreWraith]

Just to make sure I saw that right. The Woman that popped up in the end looks just like Emma. What the heck is happening?

I thought that was Kathryn at the end, and that Gold probably brought her back somehow?

[tomstone]

I thought that was Kathryn at the end, and that Gold probably brought her back somehow?

Yeah, I just checked. The same clothing from the Night she dissappeared, its Kathryn.

[SGalisa]

yeah, at first I thought the person found in the parking lot was Emma's twin, too, until I read the comments from ABC's blog site. The folks there were saying it was Katherine (Kathryn? sp?).

Question now is how is Regina going to explain the coroner's report of the heart belonging to Katherine, while Katherine has eyewitnesses of being found alive..
the intrigue grows..

[AresLover452]

Sofor a little while in this episode I felt sorry for Regina... having to live with a mother like that... O_O! But then... I went back to hating her!! OMG!! This show gets better every week!!

so glad emma found out about Sydney and Gold is finally making his move! So happy that Kathryn is back... though probably minus her heart knowing Regina's penchant for taking them.

[RJLCyberPunk]

I loved this episode, loved Regina in it. I felt bad for her(though I don't think Snow was at fault for what happened to Daniel). Regina is one of my favorite characters, and I really liked the backstory. The relationship between Regina and her mother really reminded me of the relationship I had with my mother(minus the magic and the murder of course ).

I'm glad Emma found out about Sidney, and I really liked August in this episode too.

I totally agree Snow was just a very little and naive girl at the time I also now believe that the queen of hearts in Wonderland could very well be Regina's mother, Regina may have banished her there in revenge for what she did to her boyfriend and probably placing her father in an enchanted box was the last draw. The back-story was indeed very well written and it allowed viewers to emotionally connect with Regina by showing she wasn't always a monster and a unidimensional villain a la Joker or Lex Luthor. (well at least they tried to flesh out Lexx in Smallville).

[Skydiver]

In Storybrooke, people can live without their hearts. Didn't queeny put David's in a box or something? Without a heart just means without love.

and yes, thngs are all coming to a head. what? 3 more left??

[Mrja84]

I still don't buy that it was Snow's fault. She hinted that her mother caused the horsing incident. She should be angry at her step-mother...I'm so confused how does that backstory make sense?

Though I did enjoy that it was Regina that told Snow about true love. Hmmm...kinda interesting huh?

So the deal with Regina was for Gold to get out not to have to worry about prison? Couldn't he have just said please? He's got a plan

[VampyreWraith]

I don't think the we(the viewers) are supposed to blame Snow for what happened, but for Regina, who I guess was twisted/blinded by grief from losing her true love, just when she was about to run off and marry him, blaming Snow for his death made sense. Her loss made her cold and heartless, wanting revenge, and not wanting anyone else to be happy if she herself couldn't be.
I think she was angry at her mother too though, we don't see her mother later on, so I don't think Regina let her off the hook for killing Daniel.
Seeing Regina confiding to Snow about her love for the stable boy, made me feel sad for Regina, and about the whole situation between her and Snow. Regina seemed like a good person until her mother killed the man she loved..

[jeri]

Of course Snow can't really be at fault, she was just a little girl. But I think Regina was emotionally traumatized enough that she's slightly deranged in her thinking. To have one's own mother kill her beloved like that is enough to send one over the edge. Because it's her mother, the first person most of us bond with and trust, she can't quite except things, so misplaces the blame on someone not so close to her. I'm sure she still hates her mother, it's just that she can't come to terms with it.

I think Gold can't just say please to get out of the battery charges against him. Things have changed now that Emma has arrived and time has started again. I think now everyone would notice, and be this would cause problems. He may have got Regina to make a deal for him to see a councilor instead. (as was spoiled about future episodes) We see in this ep. how the District Attorney is Regina's ally, that was not exactly a neutral inquiry session with Mary Margaret. So she would be able to get him a deal. For Mr. Gold to act as MM's attorney, he would have to be out of trouble. His plan is in play, so he wants to keep up appearances. I think his beating of the florist was a big mis-step, that he regrets, probably only for appearances sake though.

[jeri]

I don't think the we(the viewers) are supposed to blame Snow for what happened, but for Regina, who I guess was twisted/blinded by grief from losing her true love, just when she was about to run off and marry him, blaming Snow for his death made sense. Her loss made her cold and heartless, wanting revenge, and not wanting anyone else to be happy if she herself couldn't be.
I think she was angry at her mother too though, we don't see her mother later on, so I don't think Regina let her off the hook for killing Daniel.
Seeing Regina confiding to Snow about her love for the stable boy, made me feel sad for Regina, and about the whole situation between her and Snow. Regina seemed like a good person until her mother killed the man she loved..

Agreed. Rational people don't blame a child for being naive.

I'm thinking Regina's done something to her mother, like RJL says, maybe banished her to Wonderland, or some nasty place. I don't think she would kill her mother outright, but maybe over time she might as her twisted sort of madness grows in her. She did sacrifice her father whom she did love, so it's hard to tell at this point.

[majorsal]

interesting ep! since regina/evil queen is my fave character, i was looking forward to any ep that really focused on her.

i can understand regina blaming young snow, but at the same time, a rational and nice person would be able to let that feeling pass. i think regina's mom's deeds and behaviors have warped her very much. she basically turned into her mother...

i was about to say that i hoped regina could take daniel's heart and somehow regenerate him, but i think her mom crushed the heart, so...

i still want regina to get daniel back. i want her to find happiness. i want her to find redemption too.

[jeri]

Yeah, Daniel's gone, she crushed that heart to dust. The creators of the show said dead will be dead, so unless they start using time travel, he's gone.

I like Regina too. She's a great villain, she has interesting sides to her. I'm never too sure of her intentions, especially towards Henry. Will Henry ever push her to where she turns on him? And how far will she go? I think there's always room for redemption, I wonder what it would take to save her?

[tomstone]

Yeah, Daniel's gone, she crushed that heart to dust. The creators of the show said dead will be dead, so unless they start using time travel, he's gone.

I like Regina too. She's a great villain, she has interesting sides to her. I'm never too sure of her intentions, especially towards Henry. Will Henry ever push her to where she turns on him? And how far will she go? I think there's always room for redemption, I wonder what it would take to save her?

I wouldnt discard Timetravel just yet. The happy endings where known in our World long before their Characters came here. And the more I think about it, the more Augusts recent slipup makes sense. I complained before that he simply knows to much for being on his own, but now he said that Emma of all People should trust him. Eventough they barely know each other. I dont know how or why, but he is from the Future. August doesnt seem to be the Person to be irrational or naive. I just really think he meant what he said there.

[AresLover452]

In Storybrooke, people can live without their hearts. Didn't queeny put David's in a box or something? Without a heart just means without love.

and yes, thngs are all coming to a head. what? 3 more left??

No, she had Graham's heart in a box that she used to kill him after graham sided with Emma against her. As far as know david still has his heart.

[Skydiver]

ok, sorry. I just knew she had someone's heart and they existed fine until she squished it.

[Mrja84]

Of course Snow can't really be at fault, she was just a little girl. But I think Regina was emotionally traumatized enough that she's slightly deranged in her thinking. To have one's own mother kill her beloved like that is enough to send one over the edge. Because it's her mother, the first person most of us bond with and trust, she can't quite except things, so misplaces the blame on someone not so close to her. I'm sure she still hates her mother, it's just that she can't come to terms with it.

I believe she was her step mother...then again. Maybe you are right since Snow said she didn't want Regina to lose her mother like Snow did... Still, she never seemed close to her mother and was rebelling against her. So to say she can't come to grips with it seems unrealistic to me.

[carmencatalina]

I wanted to mention that whomever is in charge of makeup/hair on the show did a great job of making Regina look substantially younger in the scenes from fairy tale land. The actress is really beautiful in any case, but there she looked a good 10 years younger than she does in the full evil queen makeup that they use for the later story lines.