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    Visit the Episode GuideSANCTUARY SEASON FOUR
    SANCTUARY FOR NONE (PART 2)
    EPISODE NUMBER - 413

    Henry and Tesla learn that the SCIU weaponized Tesla's work to use against Abnormals; Bigfoot and Kate investigate Caleb's rise to power while Will and Abby look into Magnus' past. (TV Guide)

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    Beautiful End. Loved the City.

    Great Episode.

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    I agree, very nice.

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    Holy ****! Not sure I'm going to like the new city thing, but it made sense.
    So did one Magnus die & one live?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jckfan55 View Post
    Holy ****! Not sure I'm going to like the new city thing, but it made sense.
    So did one Magnus die & one live?
    I assume that she wore Henry's shield? Or did she not have enough time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steff View Post
    Beautiful End. Loved the City.

    Great Episode.
    I agree beautiful city! So this is the city that Helen built - I love the futuristic feel to it.
    If the series ends here - I think it's in a great place ... if it's extended for additional seasons they have possibilities depending on what angle they go in obviously.

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    Interesting and exciting end for the end of the season. Since they blew up the Sanctuary, I can see why they called it Sanctuary for none. I will miss the old building, the new place is lovely though I do wonder if Biggie died, or is it like last time we thought he was dead? And yes Henry's new suit worked, like was predicted after seeing The Depths. At least we found out the truth about Biggie, he was still on Helen's side, even if it cost him life. What a way to kill off an enemy even if he did deserve it

    Now for a season 5 to see where this goes, and it looks like Helen faked her death, so no more interference with the governements, thank goodness, because I hate politics in my shows

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    I'm not usually so dense on such things. It didn't *look* like she had enough time, but yeah it must have worked. All that buildup we saw of Henry working on it had to pay off in the end.
    And I think as far as Magnus was concerned making sure people *thought* she was dead was part of the plan. Starting over was the only way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jckfan55 View Post
    Holy ****! Not sure I'm going to like the new city thing, but it made sense.
    So did one Magnus die & one live?
    Quote Originally Posted by Steff View Post
    I assume that she wore Henry's shield? Or did she not have enough time?
    There was only one Magnus and yes it was Henry's suit that saved her

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    Quote Originally Posted by ann_sgcfan View Post
    I agree beautiful city! So this is the city that Helen built - I love the futuristic feel to it.
    If the series ends here - I think it's in a great place ... if it's extended for additional seasons they have possibilities depending on what angle they go in obviously.
    I agree. It works for a season or series finale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ann_sgcfan View Post
    I agree beautiful city! So this is the city that Helen built - I love the futuristic feel to it.
    If the series ends here - I think it's in a great place ... if it's extended for additional seasons they have possibilities depending on what angle they go in obviously.
    Yes, I hate to use the E word, but if it had to, this would be an acceptable note to go out on. But let's not go out!

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    Now for a season 5 to see where this goes, and it looks like Helen faked her death, so no more interference with the governements, thank goodness, because I hate politics in my shows
    Yes, I hate the political stuff too. Not what I watch a show like this for.

    The kiss goodbye really made me think Helen was doubtful she'd get out of this one.

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    So they`re moving to Hollow Earth? Is she going to tell Tesla, Henry, Kate and maybe Abby? I miss the old Sanctuary How did Will figure that out from tracing her history? Why did they have to kill off Biggie? Most importantly, why wasn`t there more Tesla?

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    Oh, my, GOODNESS!

    I'm speechless right now. I was going to say that it wasn't as good as last season's last scene, but I'm amending my original opinion of things. I think they're actually equal. I mean, Into the Black had the kick-in-the-gut, edge-of-your-seat OMFG factor, whereas this one had more resolution. It was peaceful, after a plot so chaotic it made me dizzy trying to piece it together, and so very very beautiful.

    I'm trying not to jinx anything, because I'm curious to see where they would go from here, but I think this would serve well as a series finale, if the show doesn't go into production for a season 5. It's open ended, and full of hope. I love that.

    Now, on to some nitpicking:

    -Magnus' mother's maiden name was not Bancroft. Her mother's name was Patricia Heathering. I know this for a fact because it was stated quite clearly in S1's "Warriors". I used it in a fic, so I got my facts straight. I'm currently trying to decide if it was a deliberate decision to change it, or if they had simply forgotten.

    -I would like to point out that there was absolutely NO conclusive findings on Biggie's condition. And let's keep in mind that he survived poison-tipped bullets at point-blank range. In my mind, and until proven canonically otherwise, he is still alive. Wounded, but ALIVE!!!

    -I love the kiss. Sweet, comfortable, adrenaline-fueled... perfect. And none of that stupid angst that other shows have. It's a beautiful thing!

    -"Now do you see why your ego is the least of my concerns?" = PRICELESS! Bravo. Thank you, Magnus! We've been waiting all season to hear you say that! But that punch last episode was pretty sweet too.

    -I've said it before, but I feel it bears re-iterating: I LOVE THIS ABBY. Where has she been all show? She's badass, up to speed, and a good shot. I think she'd make a lovely addition to the new underground Sanctuary. *cough*hint*cough* The FBI doesn't deserve her!

    -Caleb had a good way to die. He was a you-know-what, but at least he can say that he died creatively. A drill through the chest. Man, that's gotta hurt. I was totally heckling him. "Yeah, try to absorb *that* kinetic energy, you no good, dirty rotten--" you get the picture...

    -Magnus whump! Not too overdone, but not underdone, either. Vulnerable, but still so effin' dangerous. Caleb was an idiot for underestimating her. He played right into her hands. She had an extra 113 yrs to strategize, but still. You'd think he'd have been a little more unpredictable. You know, as a rebel leader...

    -THIS SHOW IS THE BEST!! ...'nuff said.

    I'll probably add more later. But this is what stood out to me. Immediate reaction, and all that.

    One last thing... Does the fact that Magnus had Praxian technology mean that she managed to get Ranna and her father out of the city before Worth destroyed it? I'd like to think so. It'd be cool to see Gregory again as something more than a bluesy shade, if you know what I mean.

    So many questions! Dear PTB, please give Sanctuary a Season 5 so that we may be blessed with some answers. Hallowed are the Powers. Amen.

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    I don't like the political stuff either. Or war themes, which is one of the reasons I have not liked this season as much as the last. Every night on the evening news in the US its war this, possible war that.

    When I first saw the new city I thought perhaps Magnus had been able to save Praxis, and thus her father. It's too bad she has not been able to save anyone she loved. I can't recall another show that has killed off as many characters that I've liked as much as Sanctuary has in four season. That said, the ending was really good. Maybe someday future generations will all get to travel in those hamster ball shuttles.

    Quote Originally Posted by jckfan55 View Post
    Yes, I hate to use the E word, but if it had to, this would be an acceptable note to go out on. But let's not go out!


    Yes, I hate the political stuff too. Not what I watch a show like this for.

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    First of all -

    BLOODY FREAKING HELL!

    Okay, I was kind of right. I said that during her 113 year seclusion, Helen was in Hollow Earth/Praxis. In actuality, she was making her own Praxis - a bright & sunny version. If there is a season 5, I can't wait to see more of this new civilization. It makes me wonder just how much of the Hollow Earth database they actually saved before giving it to Afina. Now I can only hope that they have Ranna in the new Sanctuary.

    I also predicted that Henry's vest was going to save the day. Bravo Hank!

    as for the ep - I actually thought part 1 was much more interesting. That is, until Magnus turned into "Soldier Sam" shooting the abnormals to hold them back, then taking a whumping while carrying out the conclusion to her plan.

    I was almost sobbing when Biggie took his beating. I was basically doing the same as Kate as she was banging on the door, hoping for it to open. Now I'm wondering, where was Biggie when things down in flames?

    After all this time, I actually like Will & Abby (when they're in working mode, not when they're making out)

    And then there's the kiss. Helen & Tesla are just so wonderful together. Now, if there was just some way we'd get to have all of The Five again. After all this is scifi, so they're not really dead, right?

    "Welcome to my home" -- Haha the lady is so very hospitable!

    "The ultimate invisible dog fence” -- that's one name of an invention that I actually like from Tesla!

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    Biggie *looked* dead, but maybe he could still be revived. Helen didn't have time to really get a decent look at him...

    If CH wants to move on that's one thing, but I really don't like the idea that they (MW) feel the need to kill someone off every season.

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    Oh my goodness!!! I'm like in tears right now, that never happens!

    Biggie CANNOT die!!

    I didn't really see any of it coming. HOW the HECK did she build ALL that without anyone ever noticing? All this is SERIOUSLY gonna change things.

    Random other comments (now that I've taken a few moments to pull myself together) :

    It all seemed a bit like "End Of Nights" to me, which was awesome.

    Glad Biggie wasn't a Shol'va after all.

    Is it just me, or did that stuff Caleb had look like Romulan ale?

    Speaking of that, does everyone have dormant abnormal genes? If so, then why is everyone human now?

    "We're working as fast as inhumanly possible". Tesla is SO awesome! Nice to see him finally win a fight.

    Abby was actually pretty good here. Even kinda epic when raided the prison. Never thought I'd say that...

    Bruno again? Ugh.

    The kiss was... Interesting. Don't see the point, but ok...

    Very sad to see the Sanctuary go. It was so beautiful. I'm gonna miss it. Thought the speechless reactions were pretty realistic.


    The backgrounds and scenery in the ep were incredible! (Sorry, that's the photographer in me talking).

    Overall, I think this may very well have been the best episode of the season, and one of the best of the entire series.

    If they do not get a season 5 I think I'll curl up and die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jckfan55 View Post
    Biggie *looked* dead, but maybe he could still be revived. Helen didn't have time to really get a decent look at him...

    If CH wants to move on that's one thing, but I really don't like the idea that they (MW) feel the need to kill someone off every season.
    I agree. The show has killed off three of The Five and descendents of two [Ashley and Clara] in a span of two seasons. Such a waste of potential. Druitt might still be alive, but until he actually shows up on air he's basically like Ashley. Dead and forgotten.

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    I didn't want to strangle Bruno in this episode, that's a plus. I to am going to miss the old Sanctuary building. Loved its gothic castle structures. And I wonder if this mean all the sanctuaries are now together in one place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackandal View Post
    So they`re moving to Hollow Earth? Is she going to tell Tesla, Henry, Kate and maybe Abby? I miss the old Sanctuary How did Will figure that out from tracing her history? Why did they have to kill off Biggie? Most importantly, why wasn`t there more Tesla?

    Kate was already involved in rebuilding Hollow Earth, I was thinking in past episode that Kate said the rebuilding had been going rather slow and primitive and what Helen showed Will was very advanced. So I'm not sure it's the same place Kate has been most of the season. So perhaps Helen carved out her own little nitch in Hollow Earth or perhaps she spent the last 100 years building the city, her own city separate from Hollow Earth?? Who knows. I kinda like the notion it's Helen's own city ... no politics, new society, fresh start. I did think Hollow earth was much deeper than merely a tunnel under old city, which is where Will appeared to be walking.

    As far as Henry - I'm sure he joined Helen in the New City. Tesla too for that matter, wonder how many of those advances he helped create. Not sure she will tell Abby at least not yet.

    I am sad to see Biggie go, quite heroic though! I'm glad to see he was loyal to Helen even to the end ... if he's really dead!

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