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    Arrow Tracking Earth's Future via Current Events, etc.

    Greetings everyone! I'm bad with introductory (topic) sentences, so here goes...

    Even tho there are already several religious topics in progress, this one is specific to earth's future and the various events in getting there. It is highly specialized with events revealed in international world news, and might digress into several different directions being tracked simultaneously which are about completely different subject matters,
    so it may be necessary to (sometimes) state what subject area is being tracked preferrably at the beginning of one's post.
    ----- If forgotten, no big deal -- I'm confident one of us figure it out, and if not we'll ask for some sort of clearer clarification later.


    Anywho...
    This topic is going to be devoted to tracking any and all events that may be leading into earth's various future prophecies. Since I have been following this sort of topic in various places and from numerous sources for over 25 years, I have personally found this study to be fun at times, as well as exasperating -- and especially when considering current world news and events.

    So, since it's been criticized that some prophecies of the Bible are actually borrowed from other cultures, now is the opportunity to share specific details of where and what those things come from.

    Of course, it's expected that most Christians participating in this topic will probably lean more towards the Biblical references, it's also expected that opposing POV's will also show up to challenge the Bible's accuracy in any future prophetic records.

    I must also note that there are a variety of directions this topic can take and discuss.
    I will provide a list of possible discussion items in my next posting. So, there will be some leniency as to how much will be considered as staying on topic.


    Guidelines / ground rules to participation---

    1. This thread is for serious discussion about Earth prophecies and the possible events occurring in fulfillment of each along the way, that can be cited from a variety of sources.

    2. Please do not attempt to deliberately derail this thread by topic bashing, mud slinging, trolling or the like. Please try and keep it civil folks.

    3. Everyone is encouraged to participate as long as you can keep it on topic, as noted.



    ----- end of part 1 of 2 parts.
    Edit-- amend title to something shorter
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    continued -- part 2 of 2 parts.

    before beginning.. *spoiler* NOTE---just to set the record straight (and if allowed, even for humor reasons, which I hope the person who inspired it will understand =)---
    Spoiler:
    I found this comment in another religion thread, and had to include it here because it's *probably* going to come up here from someone at some point in time...
    --- bold font emphasis added by me, due to gw's automatic forum styling of quotes...

    Quote Originally Posted by lordofseas View Post
    *yawn* Next thread. Doomsday here, doomsday there, doomsday everywhere.
    comment--
    This tracking earth's prophecies/current events topic is not entirely devoted to doomsday (so there is plenty of room for *universal* expansion beyond any 2012 specific topics).


    Subjects for possible tracking Earth's future prophecies and discussions thereof --
    (and btw, it's not all gloom and doom.. There are plenty of positive events and things to discuss -- the question is whether or not humans will achieve those goals.)

    * obvious future prophecies mentioned in the Bible---
    ---- Ezekiel 38 and 39 (war against Israel by alignment of nations),
    ---- book of Joel,
    ---- Daniel 9-12
    ---- Matthew 24-25, Mark 13, Luke 21 (signs of "the end of the age")
    ---- Revelation -- all of it, and any other Bible refs discovered along the way.
    * contrasting prophecies from other sources such as---
    prophecies of Nostradamus, Aztecs/Mayan calendar, Native Americans, whoever and from wherever..
    (please be specific in what the prophecy is---if possible)

    * Basically, international news of (Jewish) Israel's survival (Bible prophecy) vs. the world
    ---- Israel's gas discovery as potential sparks in feuding over who will control that region.
    ---- Israel's 3rd Temple (and details thereof) -- to build or not and where...?

    * Financial issues -- collapse of monetary systems locally and worldwide
    ---- includes current protesting going on in USA & elsewhere on planet (will affect all finances globally, including our retirements, if there is such a thing as a real, enjoyable *retirement*)

    * tracking all humans & pets via computer chipping (example-- via VeriChip Corp)

    * natural disasters -- flooding, earthquakes, droughts, megastorms, etc.
    ---- plagues, famines
    ---- health issues (existing progress or lack of progress in medical advances for various diseases & super-viruses)

    * solutions suggested or made pro/con against global warming, pollution, & reforestation

    * scientific discoveries on both macro (Universe) & micro levels
    ---- includes CERN's discoveries, Hubble's wonders
    ---- technology increasing? or just getting better at understanding?
    ---- I have to say that I do love those *dailygalaxy*, *space* and *spacedaily* web sites/articles

    * tracking--- might expand or touch upon some UFO activity in the news (that's been a hubbub theory for one explanation of Jesus {of Nazareth} returning w/his heavenly "army")

    * Potential Wormwood -- what will it be its source from?
    ---- I almost posted a reply into the topic "Russia 'plans to stop asteroid' Apophis" about wormwood, but restrained myself from doing so... someone else answered what the potential failure of that mission might end up as, which I kept thinking... "Wormwood?"
    Afterall, one of the prophecy writers stated that Russia's Chernobyl word also translates into "Wormwood" -- which ended up in disaster.


    REQUEST NOTICE--- Please, No *endless* discussions on abortion or gay living agenda's. Such items may be mentioned in passing, at times, if some news worthy event is causing a reason for including them.
    However, I understand there already are designated topics for those subjects elsewhere on Gateworld, and it would be greatly appreciated if such discussions of these 2 subjects--if/when pursued in endless detail--would be done at those other designated topics. (Thank you! =)


    and thank you!
    I may be editing this (#2) post here to expand or enhance the subject varieties being presented and tracked.

    Please try to remember, this topic is about tracking earth's future prophecies with (many, many numerous) current events guiding, influencing, and redirecting us into the great unknown...
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    Rapture ETA---October 21, 2011, according to Harold Camping

    yes, before this date shows up, I felt a necessary tugging to post a follow-up to the whole Harold Camping expecting "THE Rapture" (of Christians) to occur on October 21, 2011. That's a Friday.

    Most Christians tracking this event (and things Harold Camping said), do not believe the Rapture will occur on this date. It basically falls under "date-setting" which Jesus warned in Matthew 24:42 of the Bible that "you do not know on what day your Lord will come." (NIV)
    If Jesus said it, then logically, then none of us would know the day nor the hour of his coming/return.

    Unless something else significant occurs, I think Harold Camping will wake up on October 22, 2011 and realize he is still on earth, and not wisked away from the troubles plaguing our planet at the moment. Sadly, I think the media and everyone in disagreement with his appointed date viewpoint, will end up devouring him--verbally. He's also already 90 years old; so if he hasn't been accused of being senile, he might be during this round of *wishful* thinking.

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    I think you've just chosen the most ungrateful task ever invented by humankind
    If Algeria introduced a resolution declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions.- Abba Eban.

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    Here my theory, if you want to see a true and fairly accurate prediction of the Earth watch Star Trek, especially Next Generation, they seem to have gotten more things correct about the Earth future than they have gotten wrong. An they seem to do a damn cite better than most other prophecies and there prediction often come early rather than later or never turn up at all.


    Of cause we all know Obama is the first sign of the second coming and he his working on the side of the devil. That Planet x will hit us in the year 2012, along with an alien invasion, world war 3 and all the volcanoes around the pacific ring erupting at once. Look like 2012 is going to be a hell of a year. I am especially looking forward to fighting the Aliens from Planet x or where ever they are from and avenge Moulders sister.
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    This Mr. Camping guy, has made the same thing twice....one was just. few months ago and the other back in like the 90s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble View Post
    I think you've just chosen the most ungrateful task ever invented by humankind
    *ungrateful task*..?
    do you mean difficult or most challenging?
    (I really dreaded / cringed being the first poster to this topic -- I think introducing it properly --and as neutrally as possible-- is not the easiest thing to do on *any* planet.. but there is SOoooooooo much info out there..)

    ISRAEL NEWS---
    I heard that Gilad Shalit is supposed to be released on October 19, 2011..? His release for (the first group of) 450 Palestinian prisoners. Question asked (which was recorded in the israelnationalnews.com) is an obvious concern---
    (link below is broken. Please remove B L A N K spaces in beginning of link to access article for complete details)

    http : // www .israelnationalnews. com/News/News.aspx/148752#.TpmhcbLSgZJ

    Hamas: Israel Promised No Revenge, We Promised More Kidnappings
    By Maayana Miskin
    First Publish: 10/14/2011, 10:21 AM

    Deputy Prime Minister Moshe (Bogie) Yaalon slammed the decision Thursday, saying, "Our experience has made clear to us the terrorists we are releasing today will murder tens and perhaps hundreds of Israelis tomorrow."
    *sigh* time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowles2 View Post
    Here my theory, if you want to see a true and fairly accurate prediction of the Earth watch Star Trek, especially Next Generation, they seem to have gotten more things correct about the Earth future than they have gotten wrong. An they seem to do a damn cite better than most other prophecies and there prediction often come early rather than later or never turn up at all.
    As a lifelong viewer of Star Trek, I have noticed that... but it's more because the folks involved are creating our future, as well as suggesting the path it will take. I really liked ST-TNG because it was more technology sophisticated than the original Star Trek, but when it produced new age stories (according to believers of Maitreya), which were predicted would show up eventually into various Tv and entertainment sources, it started losing my interest. But really I got mad when Riker broke up with Deanna Troy, and stopped watching from the romance POV.

    I think Constance Cumby wrote the whole story on Maitreya and the new age movement behind
    it/him/her(whatever =)
    (see book titled "The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" written by Constance Cumby),
    and how civilizations would turn towards that and basically overthrow Christianity to the proverbial woodwork or wind. Of course, then Islam started showing up a few years ago, and I don't think that was expected in the turn of predicted events, except from an Arab and Jewish Israeli view.

    I'm sure there's a whole bunch the Star Trek writers, as well as cast, have contributed greatly to the movements in our societies. There's been a goal to get NASA or some other space agency to start getting more efficient and find a livable planet for humans to colonize on. Earth is getting crowded and suffering from all sorts of social and general living conditions / problems because of the over-population growths, etc.

    ...and yeah, I know that could bring in the whole abortion topic, but the social and food supply problems exist, and no one seems to be really doing anything about resolving these issues, except complaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGalisa View Post
    yes, before this date shows up, I felt a necessary tugging to post a follow-up to the whole Harold Camping expecting "THE Rapture" (of Christians) to occur on October 21, 2011. That's a Friday.
    It's not just "a" Friday it's this next Friday! Argh! Drat the man - I've already paid for a really expensive holiday for MrsQ's birthday later in the year. Any chance I can get a refund, do you think?

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    Now for a serious post. Lol.

    I do not think food will be a problem. Large parts of the world are still farmed a cultivated inefficiently, there millions of hectares in Africa alone that if bought into production would provide more than enough food for continent, there very few nations in Africa that would not be self sufficent in food if they were well run, had access to the right technologies and knowled, and do relatively little damage to the enviroment as these are little more than deserts at the moment.

    Plus even in the West we can grow a lot more food if wanted, for example a few huge green houses in Britain provides one third of the country with there tomatoes, cucumbers and other vegtables. We built 4 of those and we could self sufficent in vegtabels.

    Another area that people tend to ignore is that the richer we get the less babies we have. Large parts of the western world got a pretty stagnant population growth, even decreasing population, Italy, Russia for example.

    I suspect with large parts of the world reaching western standard of living by the middle of this centuary world population will stop growing or at least grow at a far slower past.

    Even today we grow enough food to feed the whole world population but that food is not equally shared around.

    I do not think Islam is as much as a threat people like to make out, in many of the muslim countries, Islamic is treated a moderate religion, Indonesia, the biggest Muslim country in the world is secular and moderate. Turkey why being more assertive in the world is also a largely secular country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGalisa View Post
    As a lifelong viewer of Star Trek, I have noticed that... but it's more because the folks involved are creating our future, as well as suggesting the path it will take. I really liked ST-TNG because it was more technology sophisticated than the original Star Trek, but when it produced new age stories (according to believers of Maitreya), which were predicted would show up eventually into various Tv and entertainment sources, it started losing my interest. But really I got mad when Riker broke up with Deanna Troy, and stopped watching from the romance POV.

    I think Constance Cumby wrote the whole story on Maitreya and the new age movement behind
    it/him/her(whatever =)
    (see book titled "The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" written by Constance Cumby),
    and how civilizations would turn towards that and basically overthrow Christianity to the proverbial woodwork or wind. Of course, then Islam started showing up a few years ago, and I don't think that was expected in the turn of predicted events, except from an Arab and Jewish Israeli view.
    Its been around over 1400 years lol
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    Nice Topic and I just watched a program on Curiosities that talked about "How the World will End" and they mentioned a variety of things...but none of them really brought about a complete global crisis. And funny thing....all of these disasters were centered in North America? SO there will be no major disasters causing cataclysmic events in other parts of the world? Weird! I am really glad you are doing this..because there is so much junk...rumor...false hype out there that is only geared to induce panic or gain some monetary reward by selling self preparedness materials and emergency food/disaster kits. I really think this is unfortunate because then you have people dismissing it ALL entirely and fail to even recognize it could be happening... if and when it really does happen they will not be prepared. Like this Camping deal... I mean so many people view him as crazy and think it's such a joke...as they should at this point...and that only further de-legitimizes the Christian (if you can call it that) Perspective on the matter. So yeah... while I really don't have alot to add to this discussion right now... I am interested in seeing just how this ~might~ be happening and remaining ever vigilant in my watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGalisa View Post

    As a lifelong viewer of Star Trek, I have noticed that... but it's more because the folks involved are creating our future, as well as suggesting the path it will take. I really liked ST-TNG because it was more technology sophisticated than the original Star Trek, but when it produced new age stories (according to believers of Maitreya), which were predicted would show up eventually into various Tv and entertainment sources, it started losing my interest. But really I got mad when Riker broke up with Deanna Troy, and stopped watching from the romance POV.

    I think Constance Cumby wrote the whole story on Maitreya and the new age movement behind
    it/him/her(whatever =)
    (see book titled "The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" written by Constance Cumby),

    and how civilizations would turn towards that and basically overthrow Christianity to the proverbial woodwork or wind. Of course, then Islam started showing up a few years ago, and I don't think that was expected in the turn of predicted events, except from an Arab and Jewish Israeli view.


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    Is this thread for realsies? I don't get the joke.

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    The trouble with 'prophecy' is that they're often left just vague enough that others will interpret the facts to fit the prophecy. It's like psychics, oracles and other frauds like that. That's how they operate.
    "Not every movie is for you. Not every TV show is for you. Not every song is for you. Find the things you like, and like them. Go nuts liking them. A thing ISN’T for you? Cool. Go find something you like. That’s it. That’s as complicated as it should be." -- David Blue

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    a few items noted... =)

    10-21-2011 Rapture, according to Harold Camping's timetable
    hmmmm.. lots of binary numbers in that date!
    Quote Originally Posted by Quizziard View Post
    It's not just "a" Friday it's this next Friday! Argh! Drat the man - I've already paid for a really expensive holiday for MrsQ's birthday later in the year. Any chance I can get a refund, do you think?
    Well, knowing how God has worked in my life, He might delay Rapture to come just as Jesus said-- at a time when we least expect it (paraphrased). Or, you could do what I did during my childhood, and that is to pray for God to wait until after your celebration.

    But if world events turn really sour and bad, where would you rather be?

    I know my hubby wanted to go visit NYC to see the memorial at the WTC, and walk across the Brooklyn Bridge on his vacation (because he was born in Brooklyn and likes to do that sort of thing). But all of that got interrupted by the entire occupywallstreet fanatics who took over most of that area. So, he stayed home and did home things, instead. *sigh* I felt really sad for him, because he really wanted to go, but not with the potential problems that might and some actually did occur.
    And maybe next year, I'm supposed to go visit my sister over 2,000 miles away, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to (or want to, due to various events). She believes in the Rapture (at any moment--not by a specific date), so she's looking forward to seeing me either way -- by visiting her & her clan, or by via the Rapture route..


    Quote Originally Posted by SGalisa View Post
    As a lifelong viewer of Star Trek, I have noticed that... but it's more because the folks involved are creating our future, as well as suggesting the path it will take. I really liked ST-TNG because it was more technology sophisticated than the original Star Trek, but when it produced new age stories (according to believers of Maitreya), which were predicted would show up eventually into various Tv and entertainment sources, it started losing my interest. But really I got mad when Riker broke up with Deanna Troy, and stopped watching from the romance POV.

    ...I think Constance Cumby wrote the whole story on Maitreya and the new age movement behind
    it/him/her(whatever =) ...
    okay, hubby corrected me on the when the new age influences started showing up in Star Trek. Some of it creeped in during ST-TNG. Most prominent (spiritual connection quest) was when Wesley joined the Native Indians with whatever it was they were doing (I missed the episode, so I don't know the whole story). Maitreya's prophetical presence was felt moreso in ST-Deep Space Nine, but any resemblance to the prophet may have been altered by using the same *idea* under a different name and planetary culture.


    ---- AGE OF AQUARIUS (spiritual / *health* aspects) ----
    btw, because I was born late January, I'm supposed to be an Aquarius. Aquarius folks are often thought of being part of the new age movement (not Christian). However, I'm not into reincarnation or being "one with the universe / nature" even tho I am part of it.
    (On the other hand, I learned that I share this Aquarian adventure "birth sign/symbol" with Gene Roddenberry's son, Eugene (or "Rod"), because he was born a week after me =)

    anywho... Maybe it took me years to realize where or how my Aquarian birth symbol actually connects--- so, I figured out I *am* sort of a waterboy-gal/fish in a pool, because I have found water aerobics to be very healthy on the body's muscles and easy exercising for folks with disintegrating cartilage conditions. When you're nearly weightless in the water (because of physics), you don't feel the stress impacts of exercising as running and jumping on land cause. But that is the basic extent of my being in an Aquarian status.


    Quote Originally Posted by SGalisa View Post
    ...I think Constance Cumby wrote the whole story on Maitreya and the new age movement behind
    it/him/her(whatever =)
    (see book titled "The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" written by Constance Cumby),
    and how civilizations would turn towards that and basically overthrow Christianity to the proverbial woodwork or wind. Of course, then Islam started showing up a few years ago, and I don't think that was expected in the turn of predicted events, except from an Arab and Jewish Israeli view.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben 'Teal'c would WIN!!' Noble View Post
    Its been around over 400 years lol
    yes, I hereby stand corrected (sorry about that brain freeze).. Actually, Islam has been around longer than that. I think as far back as the 700's (A.D./C.E.)... yep (I checked the encyclopedia just now). Thereabouts. Phrasing sentences correctly tends to change the meanings of some things greatly. LOL
    I have a dyslexic brain at times, so ... oops!
    more info and probably more *oopsies* later...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    The trouble with 'prophecy' is that they're often left just vague enough that others will interpret the facts to fit the prophecy. It's like psychics, oracles and other frauds like that. That's how they operate.
    Jean Dixon predicts.. was considered about 98% accurate in her lifetime of predictions.
    ---- the remaining 2% or whatever = fraud.
    Nostradamus ... well, his predictions seem to be on-going and more of them keep popping up in various new news articles.
    ---- the remaining whatever he missed = fraud.
    (I thought his prophecies had supposedly stopped at the year 2000..?)


    True prophecy is NOT a fraud when it comes true. Then it becomes part of history.
    And what we're seeing written nearly 2000 years ago in Matthew 24-25, Mark 13, Luke 21 (signs of "the end of the age") are all falling into historical place. It may not be written more specific than that, but little bit by little bit.. it all seems to be there.

    and just an FYI about describing "the end of the age" ---
    I thought about this deeper. It's been discussed before that the "end of the AGE" is not about the END OF THE WORLD. The Mayan calendar is about the END of the AGE that stops in our timeline at 2012 (A.D./C.E.)?

    So, here is a new question. Was Jesus (in the Bible scriptures) referring in pointing history towards 2012..? and was the whole concept of the END of the AGE known all the way back into Abraham's years as ending, based on the Mayan calculations at 2012 (A.D./C.E.)..?
    If YES, then, it only marks the END of "the AGE" (time era) that would lead into the beginning of a new time era.

    Of course, since most "pre/mid-tribulation/Rapture" believing Christians have been taught to understand there is also *supposed to be* a seven year tribulation turmoil time frame occurring during the very end and start of that time era, there seems to be a lot of focus on 2012 being more than just a year of horrible weather and other disturbances occurring on earth and maybe in our solar system.
    (just a thought to ponder)
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    Well congratulations. That was about the most transparent example of 'ignore what the quoted post says in favour of continuing with hyperbole' as you might've managed.

    I like "prophecy" as a curiosity of what people have the capacity to believe, but that doesn't make even an iota of it true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shipper hannah View Post
    Is this thread for realsies? I don't get the joke.
    There is no joke. I wish some of it was more into the humor stream, but world events are just not permitting such pleasantry.
    Consider it a diary of sorts, especially if some of the stuff actually occurs that is *IN* the Bible...
    Besides, there is nothing wrong with following or tracking various world news events that may or may not be fulfilling the hundreds of prophecies in existence.

    ---- consider the Native American prophecies ----
    And I just came across a Native American prophecy that sounded like something straight out of the Bible. more specifically, here is just a sampling---

    "And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

    "These are the Signs that great destruction is coming. The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle against other people in other lands -- with those who possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here. Only those which come will cause disease and a great dying.
    quoted from "NATIVE AMERICAN PROPHECY"
    http : // www .2012endofdays. org/more/Native-American-prophecy.php

    ((to access above link----Please remove B L A N K spaces in beginning of web address to access article/link for complete details))

    So for the first part of that quote, are they referring to the current international space station?? or some other spacy technology station that we'll create? And-- could that be the Wormwood being described in Revelation 8:10-11...? There's been talk of abandoning the international space station, due to the current financial crisis in many countries down here on earth.. If the space station gets abandoned, chances of it going into an orbital decay are strong, if SOLAR Storms occur, or some other hideous (debris strike?) occurs.

    Anyway, I read that prophecy and many of the previous ones and thought, OMG!!! who borrowed from whom? Part of that prophecy indirectly states the location of the "White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here" is midwest (Nevada / restricted gov't areas) and New Mexico, where the first atomic bomb was developed and tested.

    yeah, I'd take that info a bit more seriously than a mere joke. Sad to say so.
    I (and my family) also have strong ancestry ties (it's in our bloodstream) to the Native Americans since I am part Native American (Blackfoot tribe).
    So, I do listen to what the others (besides Christians) have to say.


    Quote Originally Posted by knowles2 View Post
    I do not think food will be a problem. Large parts of the world are still farmed a cultivated inefficiently, there millions of hectares in Africa alone that if bought into production would provide more than enough food for continent, there very few nations in Africa that would not be self sufficent in food if they were well run, had access to the right technologies and knowled, and do relatively little damage to the enviroment as these are little more than deserts at the moment.

    Plus even in the West we can grow a lot more food if wanted, for example a few huge green houses in Britain provides one third of the country with there tomatoes, cucumbers and other vegtables. We built 4 of those and we could self sufficent in vegtabels.
    Food ---- Africa
    First of all, some of the folks over there need to learn to STOP FIGHTING each other and destroying everything in their path. The land will never recover when the people continue to burn down villages and blow things up, etc.
    Yes, Africa is a huge continent with numerous possibilities in feeding many populations of the world. They've done it before during Joseph's time (Joseph, son of Jacob). After Joseph got sold into Egyptian slavery and overcame all of that, he was privileged to start a massive agricultural program to produce and *save* the grain food supplies of that region -- enough to last thru an entire 7-year drought phase.

    Various world-news articles for the past several years (at least 3 decades) have claimed that the entire world's storage sheds only have enough grain supplies for a month or two on any given day (year-round), and that is it. What happened to our technology between the era of Joseph's life from centuries ago to now. Our world is supposed to be so much more advanced in technology now, and yet it seems we're going backwards (regressing) somehow.


    Food ---- insecticides
    Sadly, because of our own technology fighting against pestilences (mostly insects), the veggie growth control stuff to help ward of bugs is now creating superbugs. Apparently, some of the insects have absorbed the toxic poisons into their bodies and adapted, just like the bacteria and viruses in the medical industry. So, while scientists were hoping to resolve the veggie plant world from various insect invasions, they've actually started a whole NEW dilemma in the food chain industry.

    According to recent news reports, Monsanto's genetically modified plants have contributed to this dilemma as well. Monsanto provides GM crops world-wide and has legal status to criminize anyone who's gardens mix the GM creations into the organic food chains. It's insane out there!

    gosh, many of us folks in the USA would LOVE to see the agriculture industry provide crops in specially built or converted greenhouses, but so far, the reports are coming in against such measures. (Gov't law/rules and regs) Since many farmers are stuck in the so-called greenbelt of the midwest, and have lost millions of dollars in crops from floods or drought, most of them are at the mercy of and seriously indebted to whatever the USA gov't dictates to them. Not many people can afford to build greenhouses either. And certainly not on a scale that would provide for an entire community let alone a single home.


    Quote Originally Posted by knowles2 View Post
    I do not think Islam is as much as a threat people like to make out, in many of the muslim countries, Islamic is treated a moderate religion, Indonesia, the biggest Muslim country in the world is secular and moderate. Turkey why being more assertive in the world is also a largely secular country.
    Islam / Muslim vs other religions---
    For the past century or more, Muslims sort of lived in the shadows of other religions. However, ever since 2001 and more recent years, they have regained their voice around the world. The issue isn't them being a "threat" but competition for which theological system will gain 1st place in the world and basically dominate or control society by its spiritual and social objectives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    Well congratulations. That was about the most transparent example of 'ignore what the quoted post says in favour of continuing with hyperbole' as you might've managed.

    I like "prophecy" as a curiosity of what people have the capacity to believe, but that doesn't make even an iota of it true.
    when is it a fraud? ALL the time, or just when things don't happen at all in the predicted statements?
    btw, I went back and edited a clarification into my post about Jean Dixon, et.al...



    Quote Originally Posted by squirrely1 View Post
    Nice Topic and I just watched a program on Curiosities that talked about "How the World will End" and they mentioned a variety of things...but none of them really brought about a complete global crisis. And funny thing....all of these disasters were centered in North America? SO there will be no major disasters causing cataclysmic events in other parts of the world? Weird! I am really glad you are doing this..because there is so much junk...rumor...false hype out there that is only geared to induce panic or gain some monetary reward by selling self preparedness materials and emergency food/disaster kits.
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    Hiya SQ
    glad you finally got here. =)
    yeah, that's weird.. however, I think it's just an editing error on the creators of the program. They forgot about the rest of the world.


    Quote Originally Posted by squirrely1 View Post
    Nice Topic
    ... I am really glad you are doing this..because there is so much junk...rumor...false hype out there that is only geared to induce panic or gain some monetary reward by selling self preparedness materials and emergency food/disaster kits....
    thx (about the topic getting started =)
    and yeah, you've seen what I've seen that's out there in the survival kit ads. It gets nauseating after a while, because there are always going to be some sort of general disasters (tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, etc). So, get the basics and keep them updated (watch out for the expiration dates).

    It's made worse when radio/Tv hosts like Glenn Beck keep harping on getting such kits..! Not everyone on this planet can afford to get those things (on the degree that Glenn Beck is suggesting -- at least a year, maybe up to 2 years or more!!).

    Plus, if *some* money might be available to put aside for that, there's NO STORAGE space available.. hello -- world?? I lived in an apartment that our space was maxed out and limited. When we finally moved into a real house, same thing -- no attic and I'm not setting up the few inches left in my living room just to store boxes and boxes of stuff I need to hang onto in case of getting nuked or something. I know lots of people's homes like that. It's bad enough loading up on (necessities like underwear, due to the skyrocketing price of cotton!) clothing for winter and what to wear for work.

    Also, how much can a person store in their tiny food pantry? Glenn said to get rid of some pots and pans, etc. and MAKE room. Clean out those stuffed closets-- he keeps saying over and over again. It gets frustrating. Wish we had the space to do it, and the money to be able to support it all... ummm. Not happening here, anyway. Need the few pots and pans and cups (etc) for cooking and eating on! geesh. Very Limited income/budget, this end.
    Not everyone lives in $500,000.00 homes with a 2 or 3 car garage, either..!

    ( I certainly don't. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrumble. We don't even have a carport, or a yard -- so no garden space to grow even a few days supply of veggies..! )

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    I hear ya SG....but I happen to like Glenn Beck *ducks flying objects* Yeah I know...he gets a bit overly dramatic at times...but at least he is rattling the cages and trying to wake up Americans or people to see that gone are the days to just sit back comfortably and watch our retirement plan grow into something lush and beautiful No now we see it dwindle down to almost nothing. Plus he always says to not take what he says as true to go and do your own research and test the facts yourself...not many people who are "trying to scam you" will say such things.

    So I take from him what makes the most sense and ignore or throw the rest away

    But yeah I"m with you that I don't have goo goobs of space in my house either to just devote a section as a make shift fall out shelter But what I like about Glenn's message and something that we can try and get out there and get back to....is Let's NOT lose the knowledge of our grandparent's or great grandparent's generation....gee how many people do you know today...can actually can vegetables? How many people do you know today can actually plan, plant and sustain a garden? I would bet not that many. Gee for that matter how many people today actually know how to cook from scratch that doesn't involve some sort of microwaveable element or prepared meal from a box that all you do is add water? How many people could actually if they had to ....make bread from wheat? This is what we need to reacquaint ourselves with...it's not just stocking up for a few months or a few years...it's getting prepared in our skill sets as well because if we have a major event.....and we lose the internet, energy etc ....we may have to go back to our roots of our pioneers and learn to live off the land and not rely on instant meals or instant information at our fingertips to fill in the gaps in our knowledge.

    And that could be a noble thing anyway...to learn how to garden or can or cook from scratch.... it certainly wouldn't hurt us to look back and acknowledge where we've come as a society and keep alive what our previous generations used to do in order to live and stay alive.
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