Originally this thread was supposed to be mainly for myself and Lt. Col., but it has been opened up to other peeps, as you will see.
Biblical questions are welcome, but I must warn you this thread has become so chaotic and messy I may miss a question. Beware the chaos ahead....
You may also PM me a question for anonymity if you wish.
Ok, right now the main issues we were discussing involve the seven creative days and weather or not the Nephilim were actually hybrid sons of Angels and human woman or if they were just men of fame.
Nephilim.
Genesis 6: 2-2*then the sons of the [true] God began to notice the daughters of men
Job 1: 6-Now it came to be the day when the sons of the [true] God entered to take their station before Jehovah,(YHWH) and even Satan proceeded to enter right among them
So that would mean it was in heaven.
Job 38: 7-When the morning stars joyfully cried out together,
And all the sons of God began shouting in applause.
In Job 38 God is speaking to Job about his creation.
Jude verse 6-And the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place he has reserved with eternal bonds under dense darkness for the judgment of the great day.
That refers to the Genesis account. Context. Context is very important.
2 Peter 2: 4-Certainly if God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tar-ta·rus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment
^Connects with Jude 6. That means that there were sinful angels, and the sinful angels did not die in the flood, they were not men they are still being reserved for judgement according to these scriptures.
Seven days.
What is the length of the creative days? Were they literally 24 hours long? Some claim that because Moses the writer of Genesis later referred to the day the followed the six creative days as a model for the weekly Sabbath, each of the creative days must be literally 24 hours long.
A fact, the Hebrew word translated "day" can mean various lengths of time, not just 24 hours. For example, when summarizing Gods creative work, Moses refers to all the six days as one day (Genesis 2:4).
A careful consideration of the Genesis account reveals that events starting during one "day" continued into one or more of the following "days". For example, before the first creative "day" started, light from the already existing sun was somehow prevented from reaching the Earth's surface, possibly by thick clouds.(Job 38 9, again referring to the chapter of Job 38.)
During this first "day" this barrier began to clear, allowing diffused light to penetrate the atmosphere. On the second "day", the atmosphere evidently continued to clear, creating a space between the thick clouds and the ocean below. On the fourth "day" the atmosphere gradually cleared to such an extent that that the sun and the moon were made to appear "in the expanse of the heavens" .
Genesis 1:14-16.
In other words, from the perspective of a person on Earth(Had there been any at this time) the sun and the moon began to be discernible. These events happened gradually.
When studying the Bible it is important to remember that one must take into account the WHOLE Bible. Not just a part or a single verse, and you must remember context.
Our only official website- http://www.watchtower.org/ There are many that are not ours.
Biblical questions are welcome, but I must warn you this thread has become so chaotic and messy I may miss a question. Beware the chaos ahead....
You may also PM me a question for anonymity if you wish.
Ok, right now the main issues we were discussing involve the seven creative days and weather or not the Nephilim were actually hybrid sons of Angels and human woman or if they were just men of fame.
Nephilim.
Genesis 6: 2-2*then the sons of the [true] God began to notice the daughters of men
Job 1: 6-Now it came to be the day when the sons of the [true] God entered to take their station before Jehovah,(YHWH) and even Satan proceeded to enter right among them
So that would mean it was in heaven.
Job 38: 7-When the morning stars joyfully cried out together,
And all the sons of God began shouting in applause.
In Job 38 God is speaking to Job about his creation.
Jude verse 6-And the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place he has reserved with eternal bonds under dense darkness for the judgment of the great day.
That refers to the Genesis account. Context. Context is very important.
2 Peter 2: 4-Certainly if God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tar-ta·rus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment
^Connects with Jude 6. That means that there were sinful angels, and the sinful angels did not die in the flood, they were not men they are still being reserved for judgement according to these scriptures.
Seven days.
What is the length of the creative days? Were they literally 24 hours long? Some claim that because Moses the writer of Genesis later referred to the day the followed the six creative days as a model for the weekly Sabbath, each of the creative days must be literally 24 hours long.
A fact, the Hebrew word translated "day" can mean various lengths of time, not just 24 hours. For example, when summarizing Gods creative work, Moses refers to all the six days as one day (Genesis 2:4).
A careful consideration of the Genesis account reveals that events starting during one "day" continued into one or more of the following "days". For example, before the first creative "day" started, light from the already existing sun was somehow prevented from reaching the Earth's surface, possibly by thick clouds.(Job 38 9, again referring to the chapter of Job 38.)
During this first "day" this barrier began to clear, allowing diffused light to penetrate the atmosphere. On the second "day", the atmosphere evidently continued to clear, creating a space between the thick clouds and the ocean below. On the fourth "day" the atmosphere gradually cleared to such an extent that that the sun and the moon were made to appear "in the expanse of the heavens" .
Genesis 1:14-16.
In other words, from the perspective of a person on Earth(Had there been any at this time) the sun and the moon began to be discernible. These events happened gradually.
When studying the Bible it is important to remember that one must take into account the WHOLE Bible. Not just a part or a single verse, and you must remember context.
Our only official website- http://www.watchtower.org/ There are many that are not ours.
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