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    Stargate Politics (120)

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    POLITICS
    EPISODE NUMBER - 120

    Senator Kinsey arrives at the S.G.C. to investigate the program and determine whether the great drain on the U.S. budget is worthwhile, prompting the team to recall missions from the past year.

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    Default Re: Politics (120)

    This episode just pissed me off, especially Kinsey... He needs to go put into a box and thrown into the river, Angel style

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlemigueljr
    He needs to go put into a box and thrown into the river, Angel style
    I've gotta say Robert Kinsey isn't one of my favorites.. But what does an angel have to do with him?
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    In the third season finale of Angel, Angel himself was cast away into a box, and sent to the bottom of the ocean, thats what i meant

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    I thought this was a great way to introduce us to the evil Senator Kinsey. I thought Ronny Cox did a great job in this episode and of course every other one he's in. Of course, being a clip show especially in the 1st season doesn't rank up there in my favorites, but as I said before I loved the way Senator Kinsey was introduced to us.
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    This was, for me, a bad ep on so many levels. Firstly, Kinsey, to me reminded me of every sanctamonious, overbearing bully I have ever met. Secondly, it was a clip show, and I have always hated clip shows. They are used by producers who want to save money, and usually don't move the series on in any meaningful way. I could go on, (and on and on!) but I won't, except to say that I disliked this ep.
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    Quite right, I enjoyed Kinsey but I don't like clip episodes, they really are annyoing and also very cheap

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    The very start and the very end were great. The middle... CLIP SHOW!

    There was some good dialogue in between the clips. I loved it when Daniel got frustrated and went off on one. Teal'c had some good lines and some great glowers. No one can glower like CJ.

    On the whole though, this ep has grown on me. As an episode on its own it's poor, but set in its place inbetween TBFTGoG and Serpent's wotsit it serves its purpose really well; when I have time to watch that little 4-ep arc all in one go (okay, it's been twice total) I haven't needed to ff anything. There's so much action in those other eps, this is like the 'breather', after climbing the hill but before tackling the mountain.

    Also, with the benefit of several years' hindsight, it has grown on me for other reasons. I haven't *always* liked the Kinsey eps, but there have been enough good ones (CoC and 2001 in particular) and Politics certainly does its job as a good introduction for Kinsey and his modus operandi.

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    I guess the episode was there to show viewers that the SGC cost alot of money to run, and our (i think) first look of Kinsey, the person who i think i hate, but the actor does it so good. I guess there was bound to be an episode about the threat of the SGC being shut down (although there were many more in future seasons).

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    This was the first ep we saw Kinsey been a evil person but apart from the flashbacks it wasn't too bad

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    I really don't like Kinsey,or clip shows in general,but it was a vital episode IMO.
    We were introduced to Kinsey and the spectre of the NID storylines to come.
    Also,as Madeleine said,it's all part of the 4-episode story arc,....and I'm a sucker for that whole arc !!

    One thing I would like to make clear.I really don't like Kinsey,but Ronny Cox himself,comes across as a true gent and a sweetie, in everything I've read, and heard about him,over the years !
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    Default Re: Politics (120)

    This is probably the worst of the SG-1 clip shows.

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    this lame episode was required to get to the serpents lair... guess it kinda evens out

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    You say it's lame, I say it's good. It brought forward the creepiest guy in the SG1-universe IMO

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    Kinsy could have been introduced in a less lame way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis
    Quite right, I enjoyed Kinsey but I don't like clip episodes, they really are annyoing and also very cheap
    well I like the clip shows at the end of the season before the finale ... but this wasn't the greatest.

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    ok, il say it, i like clip episodes. i thought it was good.

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    I do like this episode as the introduction of Sen.\Vice-President Kinsey. He seemed to want to close down the Stargate program because he couldn't have control over it as we see in episode to come.

    Kinsey is a guy you love to hate. Ronny Cox is great as Kinsey. I have seen him in other programs so I know he isn't like this in real life.

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    I'm not a huge fan of clip shows either, and it's frustrating because this one is an essential part of the Gou'ald invasion arc. The clips themselves are solid, though, because Season 1 was very watchable. There are even a few clips from the feature, and I love feature tie-ins.

    I actually prefer Senator Kinsey in this episode to the overblown government conspiracy threats from the NID (and now, "The Trust") that characterized later seasons.

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    Okay, so this episode was almost entirely clips. But that's okay. They needed something to sum up the season, and they managed to pull it off gracefully. Kudos to whomever thought of that.

    What was good:

    a. Kinsey. I HATE him. REALLY HATE him, which is what makes an ep with him so infuriatingly delicious. He's so entirely one-sided and so entirely evil that you can just HATE him without any compunction whatsoever (unlike, say, Maybourne).

    b. Teal'c. One word: scary. Lots of words (sorry, couldn't help it! ) : that glare scares the total crap out of me. I would not like to have him for a teacher (my God, can you imagine him teaching debate?)

    c. Kinsey. Sorry, forgot something. He was so bloody wiley and so wonderfully hateable. I loved how he kept switching tacks; first, "the goa'uld are a minor threat, you've escaped them unscathed, etc." to "one nearly destroyed the facility, they're too dangerous, we've gotta play ostrich and bury our heads before they come down on us". I HATE THAT GUY!

    d. Jack. I love it when someone gets his dander up. "This time, there really are barbarians! They're goa'uld! And they really are at the 'gate! That 'gate!" Hee hee hee. I love those moments as much as I hate Kinsey!

    e. The "bake sale?...Garage sale?...Car wash?!" dialogue, complete with the "this is what I look like when I'm not laughing" gag. V. funny!

    f. The ending shot. Panned back from the briefing room window. Great imagery, very dramatic.

    g. "ENGAGED?!" Alleluia! I loved their reactions.

    What wasn't so good:

    a. Dude. Give Sam more lines. Sorry, it bugs me...

    b. Daniel. Yes, the poor guy is niave (aren't we all) but really. I for one would have an awfully hard time accepting some story about alternate universes if I didn't know the guy. Wouldn't you? And yet he doesn't understand why Jack wants him to keep it under wraps.

    c. Hammond. Come on already, show some Texas spirit!

    To sum up:

    ENGAGED!
    Last edited by zats; September 19th, 2004 at 12:11 PM.

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