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    I love how General Hammond says, 'Get out of here'. It sounds kind of forced, but it does make me laugh.

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    i agree with u it did sound forced but i liked it any way

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    Spoiler:
    im sure nobody was upset when kinsey died

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    maybe not the characters in stargate but i did i missed his meddling and coursing trouble for the stargate program and its staff

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    a clip show after one season. an interesting move howver not as interesting as the introduction of kinsey. if i was jack i would have shot him.
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    I love the bake sale/yard sale moment.
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    Kinsey is the kind of man that everyone loves to hate and he proves why in this episode lol

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    ehhhh a clip eppie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chezlee View Post
    I think that Kinsey presented a real adverse persepective to the Stargate. It is dangerous, and it costs money. Theres a thread out there that discusses what would happen if the stargate were real and I think that a lot of people would have a problem with it because they don't care what is out there all they are concerned with is the here and now and what will effect that status quo in the near future, and 7 billion dollar program that coule potentially wipe out the earth is one of those threats.
    Yes, there were some legitimate issues concerning the Stargate. The SG-1 team is making decisions that will affect the entire Earth. How should they be held accountable for those decisions?

    This could have been explored in a more thoughtful way, but they made Senator Kinsey so unlikeable till we get blinded to the issues and just want to cheer for our heros while dispising him.

    Oh, and nice touch at the end of the episode having the evil senator invoke religion by claiming that the "one true God" will protect us from an attack by the Goa'uld. They just had to go there.

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    Kinsey also played Captain Jellico on Star Trek:The Next Generation. Not a bad guy just an idiot. I hate Kinsey. They should give him the black hole planet.

    Hate the episode. Kinsey
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    Great episode, even if I usually detest bureaucrats. Kinsey's a worm!
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    I have a real love-hate of this episode. It's a good summary of the season leading into the end season arc, but omfg Kinsey is such a toss. If there's anything that gets my blood boiling is that over-the-top patriotic religiousity...and I'm glad the SG producers didn't go along with it.

    I like Jack's reaction to it lol

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    The worst episode ever. Why would anyone think we wanted to watch extended replays of episodes from the very same season?

    I have to say that if I had been there, I would have been in complete agreement with the senator:

    1. How could Congress allow something so expensive and so speculative to be completely secret and fully funded?

    2. How could the senator be expected to believe the story of one man, Jackson, to verify the extent of the Gaould threat?

    3. How could the senator be persuaded by people who were so constantly rude to him and dismissive of his questions and concerns? The phrase "with respect, sir" almost always preceded a rebuke or an insult, not a presentation of calm and logical argument.

    As a viewer of course, I was rooting for Stargate Command.

    I was bothered however by the show's portrayal of the Gaould threat: why is it, as the senator pointed out so well, that the Gaould are considered an unstoppable threat when a mere hand-held ground-to-air missile could destroy a superduper deathstriker? And bullets can obviously kill Jaffar. I think the producers, directors and script-writers should have shown more consistency in these matters.

    Or I simply do not understand all the information about the Gaould thus far.

    Edit: Now that I have seen the second season's premiere, I can see how this story sets up the epic, but this episode itself is still very poorly done. Not a story to watch more than once.
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    Don't have much to say except that it's the worst episode of the first season, if not the series. I totally agree that it was necessary to demonstrate another point of view on the StarGate program, that'd be different from the heroic one we saw before, but I think it could have been done without a clip episode.

    Kinsey is for sure a character you love to hate and you want to do unspeakable on a PG-forum things to him, but that all is thanks to the brilliant work of the actor. You see Kinsey stupid, stubborn, selfish and actually pranking on SG-1 and Hammond as he and Samuels, who's also a slippery worm, already made a decision on the SG fate.

    The clips make you falling asleep, but scenes in between were well played actually, with all cast showing their actor skill. I especially loved Jack's "garage sale" and "car wash" lines, Hammond's "that's how I look when I'm not laughing" and simply their behaviour during the episode. Teal'C was also brilliant when Kinsey said that the freedom of his people is none of his (Kinsey) business. When I was watching this for the first time, I thought Teal'C is going to kill Kinsey!

    So, to cut the long story short, this episode is a total crap as a standalone one, but in the four episode arc it's even re-watchable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butlersgate View Post
    Spoiler:
    im sure nobody was upset when kinsey died
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    We're not sure he is dead... but yeah, I guess you're right for the most part.

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    1/10

    I can only guess that the show went over budget and needed to save money here in order to have a decent finale. Way too much time dedicated to past clips and an unbelievable standoff with a lone senator.

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    While watching this episode, all I think was....Can somebody punch Samuels and Kinsey. omg how I hate them.

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    I think we needed to see that their 'antics' had opposition. After bringing threats from other worlds through to Earth it would be nieve to think someone would not think that would cause a decent threat to Earth. Then the clips, reminded us of some of the things they'd been through, (perhaps as a comparision to the motherships? Idk.).

    for the record -I am under the impression that kinsey had a political agenda the whole time he was on t show.
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    Kinsey made such a great adversary for our SGC team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the fifth man View Post
    Kinsey made such a great adversary for our SGC team.
    I thought he made the end of the series much more enjoyable to watch because he was such a wonderful bastard. The character was played incredibly well (I'd expect nothing less from Dick Jones, Vice-President of OCP) and made SG1's motive behind their actions in the finale much more believable.



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