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    Visit the Episode GuideTORCHWOOD: MIRACLE DAY
    DEAD OF NIGHT
    EPISODE NUMBER - 403

    On the run from the C.I.A. and a clandestine group that has blackballed Torchwood, the team discovers a connection to PhiCorp, a powerful pharmaceutical company that may have known about the Miracle before it happened.

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    Another great episode. I find all five of the main cast to be fully developed three dimensional characters, so yes, Rex annoyed me with his brashness tonight, but I still appreciate his intelligence.

    The Doctor is my new favorite, but I am enjoying watching everyone. Bill Pullman is doing a fine job playing a character who makes my skin crawl. Ick!

    About the "scene" that has been the focus of too much time on blastr.com: The BBC is being prudish. Adults do adult things, and Torchwood continues to handle all aspects of its narrative well and with taste.
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    At least they're catering to both parties, so to speak. Something for everyone, and something to offend everyone. Everyone wins!

    Lots of development in this one.

    Spoiler:
    Phicorp has a hand in the miracle, Danes is in their pocket and was lying (like that wasn't plain as day), and the mysterious triangle phones in. Should be interesting.

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    Enjoyed the episode...I'm looking forward to discovering what phicorp's involvement is...

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    finally an interesting one.

    Funny to see Capt Jack still livin life to the fullest...in more ways than one
    Real moment when he's calling Gwen who then hangs up on him to talk to Rhys. For those that didn't watch the original either they had a brief affair or thought about it (can't recall but I think they had sex) but then she went back to Rhys (who was just her boyfriend at the time IIRC)

    jack, for all the playboy attitude, is honestly very lonely. He's lived for hundreds of years, literally cannot die, and keeps losing people.

    that said, for all the angst, it's totally 'normal' for him to go looking for some action in the middle of the whole thing. He's a carpe diem kinda guy.

    phicorp is definitely in it to their eyeballs. My money is on
    Spoiler:

    someone pulling the strings, perhaps to get rid of Jack, and uses this 'massive money making opportunity' to get supporters. which will bring in the whole alien thing. an alien using human greed to get their way, and knowing that that greed will blind them from the dark future - a planet full of people that cannot die on a planet that cannot support them. food will run out and they will starve to death but never die.

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    Goood stuff. New characters fitting in seamlessly. Rex is such a dick, but I can't help but like the guy. Dr Juarez is boss. Oswald is creepy personified but has a natural Bill Pullman charisma... hey, it's 'cause he's played by him! Jilly Kissinger is so great, and dammit all if I just wanna give Esther a big hug.

    Also, Jack: "You should've seen the other guy!" Epically hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattSilver 3k View Post
    Goood stuff. New characters fitting in seamlessly. Rex is such a dick, but I can't help but like the guy. Dr Juarez is boss. Oswald is creepy personified but has a natural Bill Pullman charisma... hey, it's 'cause he's played by him! Jilly Kissinger is so great, and dammit all if I just wanna give Esther a big hug.

    Also, Jack: "You should've seen the other guy!" Epically hilarious.
    I laughed at that one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtColCarter View Post
    I laughed at that one!
    Yeah, that one was great! But I liked the 'Bigger on the inside!' also very much

    I enjoyed the whole ep, the story is getting more and more gripping. And I'm really curious what's behind it all.

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    First half of the episode was a bit slow, though I am intriguied at the drugs/Phicorp/Jilly connection. What does she know?

    Alexa Havins (Esther) is really batting it out of the park performance-wise, IMO. Often scenes involving crying are hammy, over the top, or just plain poorly played. But I really bought it when she and Gwen were talking about her sister.

    Speaking of Gwen though, man. Eve Myles is just not there IMO--except for the gun craziness in the first episode, it seems to me like she's just been 'phoning it in' every scene she's in =\

    I'm really digging the addition of Arlene Tur/Dr Juarez too. Generally speaking she's been really well-developed and a solid addition to the show, even if I found her sudden roll in the hay with Rex to be a little out of left field.

    Bull Pullman's been fantastic too. I really buy his strange transformation....bizarre circumstances, bizarre developments. I'm finding his struggle with what it means to still be alive and to now be free really means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasySyma View Post
    About the "scene" that has been the focus of too much time on blastr.com: The BBC is being prudish. Adults do adult things, and Torchwood continues to handle all aspects of its narrative well and with taste.
    To be fair BBC One is a Major terrestrial broadcast network whereas Starz is a premium pay channel, they were always going to tone down anything that they thought would be too over the top.

    As for the episode itself I thought it was brilliant once again and i'm getting pulled into the mystery of miracle day now.

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    I'm half torn between PhiCorp being Dalek and it not, with Jack's history and it mirroring his first season in DW. Or the silent.

    Mostly kidding about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skydiver View Post
    Funny to see Capt Jack still livin life to the fullest...in more ways than one
    Real moment when he's calling Gwen who then hangs up on him to talk to Rhys. For those that didn't watch the original either they had a brief affair or thought about it (can't recall but I think they had sex) but then she went back to Rhys (who was just her boyfriend at the time IIRC)
    She had the affair with Owen. She and Jack just flirt around the issue.


    Oswald and his storyline finally got more interesting in this one. Though I still find him completely repulsive. Interesting scene between he and Jack considering what Jack has done in the past.
    IMO always implied.

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    thanks

    knew it was one of them. just couldn't quite remember which of the boys

    Jack will flirt with anyting, which is half the fun

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    Actually one of my biggest complaints about Torchwood is that he doesn't flirt with everyone and everything anymore. I liked that about his character in his first few appearances in Doctor Who. But since the character has been spun off to Torchwood, RTD's basically only been writing him as singularly homosexual. That's all well and good for a main character in a sci-fi show, and usually I'd applaud such a thing. But that isn't the character we were introduced to in those first five DW episodes in which he appeared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    Actually one of my biggest complaints about Torchwood is that he doesn't flirt with everyone and everything anymore. I liked that about his character in his first few appearances in Doctor Who. But since the character has been spun off to Torchwood, RTD's basically only been writing him as singularly homosexual. That's all well and good for a main character in a sci-fi show, and usually I'd applaud such a thing. But that isn't the character we were introduced to in those first five DW episodes in which he appeared.
    Good point, I remember The Doctor saying something about people from Jack's time being metrosexual and that's why he would flirt with anyone man or woman as long as they were beautiful, I miss that about his character.

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    I feel like the episode is really passed beyond the foundational point (which was needed and well done) of the series and into the meat of discovering what is actually going on, which was really well done also. Those "Soulless" people are actually kind of creepy when they stare at you with that blank mask.
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    Esther, "You've done that before"

    Gwen, "...so many times..." (Slightly shakes head to herself)

    I loved this, very Gwen!
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    Yeah... Good, I like Rex a whole lot, the doctor chick is really great, even the blonde-out-of-her-depth chick is kinda good, Oswald is as creepy as you could want (and then some)... but Gwen was a bit *too* much, too clinical, and I have to say, I honestly don't like what they're doing with Jack. He's always been so utterly rational, and I can understand that since he's mortal his attitude would change, but that shouldn't make him dumb enough to get beaten up by goons. Yes, he's seizing the day, but he just seems somehow out of character to me.

    Really still not sure how I feel about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahela View Post
    He's always been so utterly rational, and I can understand that since he's mortal his attitude would change, but that shouldn't make him dumb enough to get beaten up by goons. Yes, he's seizing the day, but he just seems somehow out of character to me.

    Really still not sure how I feel about it.
    Yeah, when that happened I was thinking...what? Really? Come on Jack! I was hoping to hear that was part of his plan and he secretly wanted them to kick him out, but nope!
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