Destiny's Stargate

[Aesop]

I'm not sure I quite understand something about Destiny's stargate, is it unique to all of the other "first generation" gates that the crew has encountered? I ask this because of the fact that planetary gates have a limited range, yet via the ninth chevron, Destiny's gate can theoretically dial across the universe to Earth. Is it simply the nature of a nine-chevron address that bypasses this limitation (obviously with sufficient power)? Or does Destiny's gate perhaps have a unique feature (which seems possible since whatever programming was implemented into the seed ships to formulate Stargates is likely much older than whatever the Ancients used to design Destiny's stargate—they likely built that one themselves), or is this just another oversight by TPTB?

Something I was pondering tonight while bored training a new employee...

[escyos]

I think the range has more to do with power generation, they were just unable to create the power needed to dial across a galaxy until much later. Or maybe the way the gates are made (automatically) prevents them from being capable of such things.

[s09119]

I think the range has more to do with power generation, they were just unable to create the power needed to dial across a galaxy until much later. Or maybe the way the gates are made (automatically) prevents them from being capable of such things.

This. I think it's just that the prototype gates have much less power available to them, so they can only dial a short radius around them. If Destiny had more power, it would solve that limitation.

[LtColCarter]

If you remember, it was the Icarus Base gate that dialed Destiny's gate. From my understanding, I think any gate can dial the 9th chevron as long as they have sufficient power.

[Aesop]

I guess that makes sense, given that planetary Destiny-era gates don't have DHD's to supply power. When Destiny was in fully-functioning condition her power supply must have been pretty significant to dial a nine-chevron address...

[lordofseas]

If you remember, it was the Icarus Base gate that dialed Destiny's gate. From my understanding, I think any gate can dial the 9th chevron as long as they have sufficient power.

And the capability of faking the gate's location, to appear from Earth.

[THE_ASGUARD]

it is a power issue. milky way gates can dial intergalactic distances given enough power, same with pegasus. destiny gate can do that when they recharged inside the star which sent them back in time. however planet gatges seeded by the shgips cannot dial large distances due to power requirements. if you supply them and interface enough power then they will dial larger distances.

[TuKwick_1]

it is a power issue. milky way gates can dial intergalactic distances given enough power, same with pegasus. destiny gate can do that when they recharged inside the star which sent them back in time. however planet gatges seeded by the shgips cannot dial large distances due to power requirements. if you supply them and interface enough power then they will dial larger distances.

+1

[SILLYFAN]

all the Stargates on "special places" are special.
the original Stargate on Atlantis (the one that blow up) was unique made specially by lanteans.
the Stargate of the milky way on earth that was on the Antarctica was also unique and the point of origin symbol was the symbol of the infinite (in some sg1 episodes you can see the symbol on the DHD and rarely on the Stargate).


probably was think in some point replace the common one we always watched from the 1994 movie by this one, but never happened since that Stargate was blow up by Anubis.


probably the light over the main chevron on destiny its a upgrade. later in the milky way version its the chevron that opens and closes itself. on Atlantis it does not even matter since at the same time its getting light the unstable wormhole its activated.
the destiny gate also trows steam on the sides after a connection. probably some cooling or energy deputation result as the Stargate on earth that since it depurates the energy, steam comes out of it.


also an interesting fact, if the real 9 chevron was done so only can be dialed from earth, the last symbol should be the infinite one from the real Stargate placed by the ancients. not the pyramid with the sun on top that we know first that on sg1 was mentioned ra took that Stargate from another planet to here since he could not find the stargate on earth (he was really lazy apparently).


also the destiny stargate if you noticed it, it does not have a pedestal, like all the others around the galaxies with the prototype stargate. this is somehow attached to the destiny directly.

[lordofseas]

all the Stargates on "special places" are special.
the original Stargate on Atlantis (the one that blow up) was unique made specially by lanteans.
the Stargate of the milky way on earth that was on the Antarctica was also unique and the point of origin symbol was the symbol of the infinite (in some sg1 episodes you can see the symbol on the DHD and rarely on the Stargate).


probably was think in some point replace the common one we always watched from the 1994 movie by this one, but never happened since that Stargate was blow up by Anubis.


probably the light over the main chevron on destiny its a upgrade. later in the milky way version its the chevron that opens and closes itself. on Atlantis it does not even matter since at the same time its getting light the unstable wormhole its activated.
the destiny gate also trows steam on the sides after a connection. probably some cooling or energy deputation result as the Stargate on earth that since it depurates the energy, steam comes out of it.


also an interesting fact, if the real 9 chevron was done so only can be dialed from earth, the last symbol should be the infinite one from the real Stargate placed by the ancients. not the pyramid with the sun on top that we know first that on sg1 was mentioned ra took that Stargate from another planet to here since he could not find the stargate on earth (he was really lazy apparently).


also the destiny stargate if you noticed it, it does not have a pedestal, like all the others around the galaxies with the prototype stargate. this is somehow attached to the destiny directly.

Not really. The Stargate, presumably, works from points in space, not Chevrons on a Stargate. The Chevrons on the stargate are visual representations of these points. The true point of Origin, the area from where Earth dials, does not change. Instead, the visual representation changes. This is congruent with the show, if you watch The Serpent's Lair. Daniel dials the Alpha Site on Klorel's Ha'tak. While the symbol on the gate is different for the PoO, the gate in orbit already had the co-ordinate programmed from Earth (the collective updating system). That co-ordinate was on the grid. Therefore, one must either be on Earth, or be able to imitate the co-ordinate of Earth, in order to dial Destiny. And random aliens wouldn't know where to begin with that.

[LtColCarter]

And the capability of faking the gate's location, to appear from Earth.

From what I remember of the nine chevron address, it was said to be a code more than it was an address.

[lordofseas]

From what I remember of the nine chevron address, it was said to be a code more than it was an address.

I think you're right.

[Raj_2006]

do you have a link to what the earth startgate's orignal point of origin symbol looked like?

[LtColCarter]

do you have a link to what the earth startgate's orignal point of origin symbol looked like?

There is a pic of it here: Gate in Solitudes

[Gormagon]

Spoiler:

I personally do not think the writers really think about certain elements in the Stargate realm very much. For instance, saying the Destiny's/Seed ship made gates would be inferior. Why? The Seed ships were launched 40million years B.C and Carter said that the MW gate could have been as old as 50 million years B.C. Also, this-830px-StargatePlans.jpg Clearly a MW type gate in Amelius's notebook.

The whole distance thing could be a combination of energy requirements AND the lack of D.H.D's for compensating for stellar drift. Those dinky dial devices SG-U teams have would be unlikely to be as good at ether of those as a D.H.D. But with the power requirements, how could such an inferior gate made out of apparently second hand materials hold enough energy to dial back to Earth from Destiny which they attempt? We know they are second hand because a blast from a Berzerker drone blasted a hole in one, but it takes powerful nukes to damage MW gates.