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[DigiFluid]

• Discontinuity! In the third Techno-mages book, Galen liberates Z'ha'dum's Eye system shortly before it's killed by Sheridan's White Star bombing. And then....it's perfectly intact when the ladies go to the planet looking for the missing Sheridan
• In Londo's quarters when he first arrives on Centauri Prime....you can see he has a framed photo of himself on the desk
• Into the Fire has really, really grown on me. I remember the first time I watched it, I was disappointed with it being the end of the Shadow War just like that. But with multiple rewatches, I've really come to appreciate it a lot more.
• In Valen's Name (comic) -- Interesting but mostly forgettable. And it has a pretty sizeable continuity error in showing a Vorlon ship attacking a Shadow vessel during the last Shadow war
• Thirdspace -- I kinda laughed near the beginning of this one. Another little goof that makes you frown.... The opening scene is Ivanova's "mouse trap" for a group of raiders, where a group of White Stars are backup. Ivanova and the other two Starfuries then head off at sublight because the jumpgate is a few hours away. So....why couldn't one of the White Stars have opened a jump point to expediate the fighters' trip home? At the very least it would have shaved a few hours off their trip!
• Thirdspace -- another thing I just caught for the first time: just before Sheridan and Delenn go to glowy-eyed Lyta's quarters, there's a shot of a Human and a Narn security officer 'escorting' a Drazi. If you watch, for no reason at all, the Narn takes a hand off the Drazi's back to smack him in the head for. No reason at all, no effect, just swats him
• Ugh. No matter how many times I watch the show, the Delenn/Sheridan relationship always just drives me up the wall. Always with the bloody rituals and traditions and other such nonsense. I've dated hyper-religious women and this is precisely the sort of thing that makes me run for the hills. Needy nonsense.
• Lines of Communication -- The Drakh in this one kind of puzzles me. I understand from the novels that there are two types of Drakh: the ordinary servant type, and the soldier class who wear the white bone masks. So, two issues posed by this episode for me. First, why would the Drakh send a soldier to be their emissary? Second, why is he kind of....shifty out of phase? We don't really ever see anything else like that at any point.
• Something I find really interesting about this season is Garibaldi's story arc. I know that, eventually, it's revealed that his hostility is a result of Psi Corps meddling. But I've always found that the writing of that storyline is almost too good in relation to other things that are going on. When Garibaldi criticises Sheridan as being closed to everyone, keeping things only to himself/Delenn/Lorien, and having a bit of a messiah complex, I find that he's absolutely dead on. While I thoroughly enjoy that he's the one who figures out how to end the war and I love the way he ends up pushing the civil war, I find that for a big chunk of this season he becomes absolutely intolerable.
• Exercise of Vital Powers -- Interesting....when Lyta made contact with the unfortunate telepath, besides Lyta hearing in her head the Shadow vessel scream, Franklin's equipment appears to chatter in the same way that the Shadows communicate
• Exercise of Vital Powers -- JMS exercised some interesting foresight in writing one of Edgars' lines in this one. He asks Garibaldi how many people belonged to the Nazi Party, the Communist Party, the Jihadi Party. Okay, modern jihadis aren't a political body, but it's an interesting bit of foresight on his part
• Exercise of Vital Powers -- Interesting unexplored avenues offered up here. Also during Garibaldi's conversation with Edgars, he cites dictatorial governments being elected on Earth--Russia in 2013, Iraq in 2025, and France in 2112. I wonder what those would be all about....
• The Face of the Enemy -- Ha! Read on the B5 Wikia that the unnamed Psi Cop (flashback to when Garibaldi was released from capture) was played by Harlan Ellison

[Jae'a]

[list][*]Ugh. No matter how many times I watch the show, the Delenn/Sheridan relationship always just drives me up the wall. Always with the bloody rituals and traditions and other such nonsense. I've dated hyper-religious women and this is precisely the sort of thing that makes me run for the hills. Needy nonsense.

Well, that's what Religious Caste Minbari are like.

I always wonder if the 2112 mention is a nod to the band Rush..

[Cold Fuzz]

• Discontinuity! In the third Techno-mages book, Galen liberates Z'ha'dum's Eye system shortly before it's killed by Sheridan's White Star bombing. And then....it's perfectly intact when the ladies go to the planet looking for the missing Sheridan

B5 is usually excellent about maintaining continuity but in this case this was a really glaring one. As the Technomage trilogy was written after the episodes aired, I'd say this is a case that Jeanne Cavelos just plain goofed. Still, I can forgive this continuity issue because the novels as a whole were incredibly good, imo.

• In Valen's Name (comic) -- Interesting but mostly forgettable. And it has a pretty sizeable continuity error in showing a Vorlon ship attacking a Shadow vessel during the last Shadow war

From the rules of engagement the Vorlons & Shadows set down, I think that after a certain point, especially when the younger races united in the past and demonstrated their strength, the Vorlons would start lending their military support.

• Thirdspace -- another thing I just caught for the first time: just before Sheridan and Delenn go to glowy-eyed Lyta's quarters, there's a shot of a Human and a Narn security officer 'escorting' a Drazi. If you watch, for no reason at all, the Narn takes a hand off the Drazi's back to smack him in the head for. No reason at all, no effect, just swats him

An irate Narn security officer. I like him already.

• Ugh. No matter how many times I watch the show, the Delenn/Sheridan relationship always just drives me up the wall. Always with the bloody rituals and traditions and other such nonsense. I've dated hyper-religious women and this is precisely the sort of thing that makes me run for the hills. Needy nonsense.

I'm not a big fan of rituals myself. I've never dated someone who was big on rituals probably because I tend to communicate my disdain for rituals very early on. It's very likely that's a red flag for them and they end up not wanting to date me.

These days, I wouldn't even tolerate rituals that I consider pointless. I'm too old and I've put up with too much crap over the years.

• Lines of Communication -- The Drakh in this one kind of puzzles me. I understand from the novels that there are two types of Drakh: the ordinary servant type, and the soldier class who wear the white bone masks. So, two issues posed by this episode for me. First, why would the Drakh send a soldier to be their emissary? Second, why is he kind of....shifty out of phase? We don't really ever see anything else like that at any point.

From what I read long ago in an interview with JMS, the phasing thing was an allusion to the way the Shadow vessels would phase in and out, thus pointing to the idea that the Drakh were Shadow servants. However, the phasing look proved to be problematic with effects and clarity and it was dropped in future appearances of the Drakh.

• Something I find really interesting about this season is Garibaldi's story arc. I know that, eventually, it's revealed that his hostility is a result of Psi Corps meddling. But I've always found that the writing of that storyline is almost too good in relation to other things that are going on. When Garibaldi criticises Sheridan as being closed to everyone, keeping things only to himself/Delenn/Lorien, and having a bit of a messiah complex, I find that he's absolutely dead on. While I thoroughly enjoy that he's the one who figures out how to end the war and I love the way he ends up pushing the civil war, I find that for a big chunk of this season he becomes absolutely intolerable.

Garibaldi is one of my favorite characters on B5 and you're correct that he became an intolerable jackass for much of season 4. I knew there had to be something wrong with him mentally and the Psi Corps reveal did fit in.

[DigiFluid]

I think you missed my point....I thought that for a good chunk of Season 4, Sheridan was an insufferable jackass. Thus making it difficult for me to find fault with what Garibaldi was saying, no matter that it was the result of Psi Corps tweaking.

Another point I forgot to mention was something I find a little curious about Sheridan's detention and torture toward the end of the season. We know from three years of show at this point that the Psi Corps is in no small way the power base of Clark. This gets emphasised even more when Edgars is finally revealing the truth (about the virus) to Garibaldi. And then in the next episode or two, when Sheridan is captive--at no point does a telepath take part in breaking Sheridan mentally. The only time we see one is to verify what he's thinking to one of his interrogators at the beginning of his second 'captured' episode. This seems like an odd lapse in consistency.

[Cold Fuzz]

I think you missed my point....I thought that for a good chunk of Season 4, Sheridan was an insufferable jackass. Thus making it difficult for me to find fault with what Garibaldi was saying, no matter that it was the result of Psi Corps tweaking.

Another point I forgot to mention was something I find a little curious about Sheridan's detention and torture toward the end of the season. We know from three years of show at this point that the Psi Corps is in no small way the power base of Clark. This gets emphasised even more when Edgars is finally revealing the truth (about the virus) to Garibaldi. And then in the next episode or two, when Sheridan is captive--at no point does a telepath take part in breaking Sheridan mentally. The only time we see one is to verify what he's thinking to one of his interrogators at the beginning of his second 'captured' episode. This seems like an odd lapse in consistency.

Ah OK. Your use of pronouns in that paragraph were leading me to think you were talking about Garibaldi.

As for a telepath not being there with Sheridan, that's a good point. I think Clark wanted a "clean" way to break Sheridan though, with no telepathic manipulation.

[Raw_Deal]

[*]Something I find really interesting about this season is Garibaldi's story arc. I know that, eventually, it's revealed that his hostility is a result of Psi Corps meddling. But I've always found that the writing of that storyline is almost too good in relation to other things that are going on. When Garibaldi criticises Sheridan as being closed to everyone, keeping things only to himself/Delenn/Lorien, and having a bit of a messiah complex, I find that he's absolutely dead on. While I thoroughly enjoy that he's the one who figures out how to end the war and I love the way he ends up pushing the civil war, I find that for a big chunk of this season he becomes absolutely intolerable.

I wouldn't go as far as saying I found Shreidan to be intolerable, but I certainly agree that Garibaldy had a point in his criticism of Sharidan. That's the beauty of it - things are never simple or black and white - you can't just dismiss Garibaldy as someone who went haywire, beacause there's truth in what he says. But on the other hand his behaviour *is* quite extreme, which leaves you wondering what went wrong with him.