Dialing Destiny... From Pegasus!

[Onealwasoverrated]

So here's something I've been wondering about. You know how the Lucian Alliance has a pesky habit of blowing up Icarus type planets and how the Langrans won't let us use their Stargate to dial in to Destiny? Well what if the folks in Atlantis found an Icarus type planet in the Pegasus Galaxy? Could they dial in or not?

The reason I'm not exactly certain is that the code to Destiny is in Milky Way glyphs, including the Tau'ri point of origin. Likewise, Pegasus gates are newer so they may run on different software than their Milky Way counterparts. Could whatever program they used to override the MW DHD work on a Pegasus Gate?

Maybe. Upgraded version of existing things normally keep the capabilities of older versions.

[SILLYFAN]

ok i did not read all the posts but here are 2 huge problems:
1: naquadria: was an invention of 2 goa`ulds searching in the name of the system lords a new power source to be more powerful (probably to defeat the asgards) since this experiments where tried on a small number of planets, untill the experiment was abandoned for good (naquadria its completely unstable and the goa`ulds decided that was better to stop since was bad for the human hosts since its toxic).
so in pegassus there will be no naquadria since the goa`ulds create them on random milky way planets underground. the jonas homeworld when he was as the new leader of his people, came to earth to ask help to stop the process since the naquadria vein near the core of the planet when was mixed with naquadah in the process of convertion by some issue the naquadah repositorys exploded and the planet was near to be destroyed by a big naquadah/naquiadria explosion. they managed to stop the change and revert naquadria to naquadah.

2: all the pegassus stargates the driver was made or fix by the ancients so to dial an 8 (and probably a 9) chevron adress an unique control crystal on the DHD (witch only the atlantis and asura - replicator atlantis we can say has) so even if the lucien alliance go to pegassus they will find cut off from 8 and 9 chevron dial adresses and no naquadria.
probably its a restriction that would never be overcomed since dr.weir and the IOA forbidden to analize the crystal since if it is damaged never again atlantis or any other DHD from pegassus (the crystal can be desmounted and re mounted with a tiny bit of adaptation on a regular DHD on another planet to be used to dial 8 and probably 9 chevron adresses) could ever dial the 8 and 9 chevron. this was made by the ancients so even if the wraith finded out the location of the milky way or any other galaxy they cannot dial out. and since mckay its not allowed to experiment with this crystal unless he finds on the database the special program os or whatever its holding or instructions on how to do another one the pegassus gates has a similar restriction as the destiny stargate, restricted to 1 galaxy dials only.

[SILLYFAN]

sorry for double posting, but i remembered that mckay once on the season 1 i think mentioned that the pegassus stargates where indeed made of naquadah but a tiny bit smaller than the milky way stargates (the size outside the event horizon the event horizon its the same size of course) and with a finish of gold (thats why on stargates offworld we can see the gold that was wash away by the rain its darker than the original atlantis stargate and the asura stargate that are protected from water since are indoor.) and that the pegassus stargates uses 20% less of energy than the milky way stargates. that would be good when dialing to destiny since it would be less energy required. maybe from atlantis on earth with the control crystal destiny can be reached but we may never know...
plus the atlantis stargate when reached earth if it was not dismounted and buried the unique DHD from atlantis has the function to shut down the stargate as if it where buried. mckay once turn on that feature on one atlantis episode (dr.weir was present so was prior to season 4 this dont remember the episode on the moment was not a big deal it was presented on the show as "ow i just turn off the stargate dont worry").

[thundersal]

There use to be a planet called Doranda in pegasus that could have been used to generate an enormous amount of power. However, that planet and 5/6ths of the solar system has long since been destroyed.

[Paladin]

1.Scan the Ancient database.
2.Recover ZPM building instructions.
3.Build a TON of ZPMs.
4.Dial the 9th chevron without a star or a naquadriah planet.
5.If there is no info about building ZPMs in the database, then steps 3-4 become impossible.
xD

[garhkal]

Just cause the steps to build them may exist, does not mean we can follow them/the materials to make it work are available.

[erdnis8]

if you remember the first episode in sgu dr rush said that it was only one address leading to destiny in the atlantis database so they must have translated the symbols from PG to MW with ease because they have the atlantis gate and the giza gate and possibly rush was in the translation team well i dont know, So i think you could dail destiny from a PG gate.

[Bladed]

I finally worked it out why no one has thought to use the Ori Supergate, which is more than capable of dialing and maintaining an open wormhole for indefinite periods of time.

First while the database included the address, it never said what was at the other end.
Second Destiny was launched a million plus years before, so ancient tech from that time most likely would not have advanced far enough to even attempt harnessing the power of a black hole for Stargate use.
third the super gate is an Ori device, so even though the ancients and Ori were from the same galaxy their tech was separated by unknown number of generations.
fourth simple oversite on the part of the IOA and Stargate Command, since they only used it to take a ship to the Ori galaxy once, other wise they simply never think of it. Out of sight out of mind kind of thing.
It would be a simple thing to write a script where Walter is in the gate control while Sam and McKay are discussing possible alternative "planets to use for dialing, and he offhandedly remarks,"Too bad we can't use the Ori Supergate." then you would get a bunch homer," Doh!" out of Sam and McKay.

[Energizer_Vs_ZPM]

Thing is guys, we already know that Destiny would only accept a connection directly from earth - or a gate transmitting earth as the point of origin. As far as we know, none of the peg gates could do this.

Atlantis was also locked out to earth when the ancients left to stop the wraith dialling in and then back to the milky way. It seems logical that Destiny (which was able to contact and read information from nearby stargates through subspace) was able to blacklist incoming connections too.

[garhkal]

In that case why did it accept the dial in from the Lucian Alliance?

[Energizer_Vs_ZPM]

Thing is guys, we already know that Destiny would only accept a connection directly from earth - or a gate transmitting earth as the point of origin.

They had Rush so he would easily establish this connection.

[Britta]

In that case why did it accept the dial in from the Lucian Alliance?

We know you don't have to actually be at Earth, since Destiny was successfully dialled from Icarus. You just need to use Earth's Point of Origin. The Lucian Alliance would have known that by virtue of having spies/brainwashing victims on Earth.

[thekillman]

We know you don't have to actually be at Earth, since Destiny was successfully dialled from Icarus. You just need to use Earth's Point of Origin. The Lucian Alliance would have known that by virtue of having spies/brainwashing victims on Earth.

By virtue of having a colonel directly connected to the project brainwashed to their cause .

Yes, the gate needs to use At as it's final symbol to finish the connection. While this would be impossible to do under normal circumstances, with a dialing program it's a matter of just typing the symbol. Therefore, it could be done from pegasus.

Of course there's no point in doing it from pegasus. That's like saying it takes a lot less energy to go to the moon if you live in canada rather than china.

[Energizer_Vs_ZPM]

Yes, the gate needs to use At as it's final symbol to finish the connection. While this would be impossible to do under normal circumstances, with a dialing program it's a matter of just typing the symbol. Therefore, it could be done from pegasus.

But the dialling program is only an interface to the gate. It's the gate itself that does the real dialling / connection and any error checking (eg stars en-route to go around etc).

Of course there's no point in doing it from pegasus. That's like saying it takes a lot less energy to go to the moon if you live in canada rather than china.

To be fair, if you launch a rocket from the equater it does use less energy because that part of the globe spins faster than the north or south. This is actually a well known fact and although it makes no visible difference to the naked eye, it does make a difference.

As for pegasus, nobody out there has the capability of dialling an 8 chevron address yet alone a 9. Heck they wouldn't even know the address to destiny anyway as it was hidden away in the Atlantis database.

[garhkal]

But that's not to say the SGC couldn't look into seeing if there ARE any Icarus type planets in the Pegasus galaxy to try a dial out from. if nothing else with Mccay's new dialing algorythm, they get a supply line to refresh the crew from.