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    Not sure if this has been posted but, surely they could have just stopped the upload to Destiny, searched through the database for Tj's cure , make that a priority for an upload. Then just continue upload the rest of the database after the cures has been uploaded?

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    What I want to know is why did they have to be there for it to upload when everything started to happen they could of gone back to the ship and kept the uplink open...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark lord me View Post
    What I want to know is why did they have to be there for it to upload when everything started to happen they could of gone back to the ship and kept the uplink open...
    That was my question too. They could have stayed in orbit until the uplink was lost. No reason to stand there watching the information transfer. They should have started the transfer and everyone should have been helping ferry supplies. If there was a problem and time they could correct it when someone onboard Destiny let them know the transfer had stopped.
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    by the time they realised they didn't have enough time to get everything, it was already too late. eli actually mentioned they'd have to stop the download, then the bunker started to fall apart. though that brings up an interesting question - how were the crew accessing diaries if the database was inaccessible because of the upload?



    i don't know if they 'needed' to be there - but eli isn't the most active person, so he was better monitoring in case of problems. camile and chloe had a clear interest in the culture, and many of the boxes were likely very heavy - so it was better to leave the job to people better suited for heavy lifting. also, too many people working at the boxes wouldn't have helped anyway, so the spares brought down could hang around in the database room. and park was checking out all the features, so she could add to dramatic effect with her geographical survey panic

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    A bigger question would be:

    Why didn't they upload the important stuff FIRST? Medical, Technical, Scientific knowledge. I'm sure there was plenty of random personal logs of the "other Destiny" crew, as well as their descendants logs in the 1/3rd of the database that they got.

    Would've been smarter to prioritize USEFUL information (as Rush surely would've suggested had he been in the archive-room).

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    rush disregarded the entire database actually - he thought it more important to see what physically useful stuff existed, rather than what would advance earth if they ever got back. in his view, at the time - none of the information was strictly 'useful' because none of it would help the mission of getting to the source of the signal.

    we don't actually know how they sorted the upload - since they were reading diaries while uploading, it's possible they didn't upload those at all - if they had, they could have done their reading later.

    for the rest of the stuff... there's 2000 years of info there. you've suddenly a similar problem to atlantis when they were preparing for the siege at the end of S1 - how do you prioritise medical work, power supply developments, space programmes, whatever else they've got there? do you say that only work published in the last 200 years is useful? the amount that could easily be lost by prioritising one over everything else is immense - and, at the time, technical info was probably more interesting than medicine, considering they didn't know till near the end that medicine had come so far.

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    They uploaded over 900 "Exobytes" of data (that's 9 BILLION gigabytes) in just a few short hours. And even that, only resulted in ~ 1/3rd of the entire database.

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    Eli only said that in order to speed up the Transfer he needed to compress the files into one huge upload. It could be that there was not enough space for a compressed copy of the files and therefore the originals where deleted in the process.

    Still, they could have easily made a Search all together to find the Data and save it on a module like they used to watch the kino footage and then reset the Upload, but that would have been way to easy and would have made the discovery pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
    by the time they realised they didn't have enough time to get everything, it was already too late. eli actually mentioned they'd have to stop the download, then the bunker started to fall apart. though that brings up an interesting question - how were the crew accessing diaries if the database was inaccessible because of the upload?
    Maybe the Diaries were separate from the database..

    Why didn't they upload the important stuff FIRST? Medical, Technical, Scientific knowledge. I'm sure there was plenty of random personal logs of the "other Destiny" crew, as well as their descendants logs in the 1/3rd of the database that they got.

    Would've been smarter to prioritize USEFUL information (as Rush surely would've suggested had he been in the archive-room).
    In their initial convo about it, they (brody and Eli) said something to the effect of it would take years to go through the database.. So how exactly would they search through it, upload what they want in the 36 hrs or so they had?

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    Sad truth is, everything can't work out in their favor. They'd have to call the show Atlantis.... lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
    rush disregarded the entire database actually - he thought it more important to see what physically useful stuff existed, rather than what would advance earth if they ever got back. in his view, at the time - none of the information was strictly 'useful' because none of it would help the mission of getting to the source of the signal.
    Not entirely accurate. Without those database, Rush wouldn't know what the highly advanced substance to replace the lime in the CO2 scrubber. That lead Rush said, "They will be okay" referring the Novusians aboard the destiny after saw the lava flooded spaceship factory. Basically, Novus database has help saving Destiny crew and Novusians colony to improve the life support on the ship.

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    It was better to get as much of the Database to Destiny as was possible that way they had the best chance to get what they need. There was no guarantee they would find it in a search.

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    Yes a search would have taken too long to complete and by the time TJ found out about her condition the situation on the planet was already reaching critical.

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    Too true..

    Though i wonder..
    Could they have brought Destiny itself in to land, so supplies would have been easier to get aboard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
    by the time they realised they didn't have enough time to get everything, it was already too late. eli actually mentioned they'd have to stop the download, then the bunker started to fall apart. though that brings up an interesting question - how were the crew accessing diaries if the database was inaccessible because of the upload?
    i thought that they were reading the diaries from their computer, which is where they were uploading from. which brings the question why they couldn't just search of the cure to tj's disease?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Maybe the Diaries were separate from the database..
    Quote Originally Posted by blueray View Post
    i thought that they were reading the diaries from their computer, which is where they were uploading from. which brings the question why they couldn't just search of the cure to tj's disease?
    pretty much my point - people are complaining about the diaries being uploaded, however: if the database had to be stopped to search for TJ's cure, then the diaries couldn't have been part of the upload. if they were part of the upload, then there should have been no issue with finding the cure - they'd half a dozen people there checking diaries, and yaozuu seemed to recognise the disease pretty easily.

    or else, the writers didn't pay much attention to what was going on in the very scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Too true..

    Though i wonder..
    Could they have brought Destiny itself in to land, so supplies would have been easier to get aboard?
    there's no evidence that destiny can land and if there's a easy access to inside the ship from the outside

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh Atem View Post
    there's no evidence that destiny can land and if there's a easy access to inside the ship from the outside
    even assuming it could, the local area seemed to be wooded. chances are, the nearest landing site would still have been at shuttling distances.

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    That it may have, but shuttling things from place X to Y on a planet, is still quicker than shuttling them from planet to orbit.

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    Why didn't they just take the Hard Drives or whatever storage units had. Why download when the dvd is available. Just my two cents!

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