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    Default Re: 'Defiance' (Rockne S. O'Bannon/Syfy) -- speculation/discussion/spoilers

    One thing I'm surprised about is that it is a show that is premiering on a channel known to produce low budget shows, yet just from that 30 second trailer it looks like it has better cg work than Terra Nova.

    Of course it's just a thirty second trailer...The show could be complete nonsensical crap when it airs. But it looks promising.

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    CGI itself doesn't need to be expensive. Just look at some of the great stuff that Stargate pulled off with their low budget
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    That's a good point Jelgate. And they also had the issue of starting in the late 90s. Some of their CGI still stands up pretty well.

    But my point is, the Terra Nova cg wasn't very good, though I guess you could make the argument that much of the budget went towards the expensive sets.

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    Default Re: 'Defiance' (Rockne S. O'Bannon/Syfy) -- speculation/discussion/spoilers

    FYI - We have an expanded series guide in the works at SciFiStream. Now with a character guide, screencap gallery, videos, and more:

    www.scifistream.com/Defiance


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    New video!


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    I'll hope the season will be available on iTunes as well !

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    I couldn't remember where I have seen Jaime Murray earlier. She was Gaia in the Spartacus!!!

    Actually the new races seems to be a bit disappointing, because they don't look enough "alien" to me. But I have faith in Rockne S. O'Bannon, because the FarScape was really well written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EventHorizon View Post
    I know what you mean. I live in Minnesota, and the only way Hollywood represents my home is lots of snow and people with Canadian accents.

    As far as the arch... I am wondering if they re-build it. The show/town is called "Defiance". I'm wondering if the arch falls down (as it likely should), and they re-raise it in "defiance".

    I'll give the show a chance.
    It look like there some sort of scaffolding around the arch.

    Looks awesome. Glad to see some promotion of a show from syfy that is not a trailer a week before the first airing. But this is syfy they will probably muck it up in some other way before long.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gen. Chris View Post
    That's a good point Jelgate. And they also had the issue of starting in the late 90s. Some of their CGI still stands up pretty well.

    But my point is, the Terra Nova cg wasn't very good, though I guess you could make the argument that much of the budget went towards the expensive sets.
    Doing good organic CGI is just plain hard, one area where SG all the series suffered with, beyond the Asgard, Blue and brown aliens in SGU, but a lot of others do, Merlin with its dragon for example.

    Most of the work in Nova was organic CGI work, it not surprising some of it looked dodgy, especially as people was comparing it to Jurassic Park and expecting the same quality of work for a fraction of the budget per frame wise.

    I am looking forward in getting know our new universe, it look like it will be a fairly complicated universe but I do not see room for a lot interesting, unique stories yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    I couldn't remember where I have seen Jaime Murray earlier. She was Gaia in the Spartacus!!!

    Actually the new races seems to be a bit disappointing, because they don't look enough "alien" to me. But I have faith in Rockne S. O'Bannon, because the FarScape was really well written.
    Jamie Murry has been in alot of things over the last couple of years... Dexter, Spartacus, Ringer, Warehouse 13

    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    I couldn't remember where I have seen Jaime Murray earlier. She was Gaia in the Spartacus!!!

    Actually the new races seems to be a bit disappointing, because they don't look enough "alien" to me. But I have faith in Rockne S. O'Bannon, because the FarScape was really well written.
    I was actually thinking the same thing, i guess for the video game there has to be some alien looking creatures in the game idk
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    Default Re: 'Defiance' (Rockne S. O'Bannon/Syfy) -- speculation/discussion/spoilers

    Jaimie murray also appeared in Dexter, Hustle, and Warehouse 13.

    I enjoy her performance in the Hustle the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowles2 View Post
    Jaimie murray also appeared in Dexter, Hustle, and Warehouse 13.

    I enjoy her performance in the Hustle the most.
    Already mentioned WH13 and Dexter havent seen Hustle tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_kennedy View Post
    Already mentioned WH13 and Dexter havent seen Hustle tho
    I think she acted a lot better and more natural and comfortable in the hustle than some of the other roles she played.

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    SPOILER





    What is strange that the 7 Votian races have all lived together in the same solar system, but now they live like the Indian cast system. So there are workers, engineers, servants. Hmmm... I expected something more original, but we will see it next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    SPOILER





    What is strange that the 7 Votian races have all lived together in the same solar system, but now they live like the Indian cast system. So there are workers, engineers, servants. Hmmm... I expected something more original, but we will see it next year.
    That sounds more like the Minbari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
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    What is strange that the 7 Votian races have all lived together in the same solar system, but now they live like the Indian cast system. So there are workers, engineers, servants. Hmmm... I expected something more original, but we will see it next year.
    Who said such a thing only existed when they arrived on Earth?

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    ???

    Hmm... That is what they said in the video. Every race has his own skill or role or profession if that desribes them better.
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    ???

    Hmm... That is what they said in the video. Every race has his own skill or role or profession if that desribes them better.
    Setting up the races like this probably fits in with the RPG game they are developing too.

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    Reading the wiki and the tiny slither of information we have about vortan races it seems that they may have once been a single species but through genetic engineering become 7 separate species. An have long forgotten the time when they were a single species.

    But let have a friendly bet, I bet us humans are the 8th Vortan species. Which is an easy explanation to why we look very similar to some of the Vortan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    ???

    Hmm... That is what they said in the video. Every race has his own skill or role or profession if that desribes them better.
    Yes but what if they had a mixed civilization before they came to Earth. I doubt that planets and races that had no interconnection would suddenly join together to escape.

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    Although the show maybe canned after the first season, I hope that the game will be successful because I'm really hyped about this new show and I hope syfy has a some sci fi success again which I doubt but mostly it's their own fault anyway but I can't wait for this show and playing it later the year because I'm usually not a gamer but this i will try out.

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