Was it wise to send a rescue party ?

[caribsci]

I just got two points to make.......

1.they've been on that ship for over a year now ...so y isn;t tj training some of those ''deadbeats'' just in case something do happen to her.

2. How many did they sacrifice for Rush/Telford when the LA boarded Destiny? and again wen tj was captured by the LA Young's whole gameplan changed.

[KEK]

Never leave a man behind. Even if his chance of survival is next to, or is in fact, zero. Every soldier/sailor/airman has the right to know that even if the worst happens, he will find his way back to his home soil, whatever condition he may be in. THAT is important.

That's a completely different situation. Special forces like the SAS behind enemy lines are trained to leave men behind if it'll risk more lives. Now apply that to somewhere as far removed as a different planet and a recovery seems unthinkable.

[Flyboy]

That's a completely different situation. Special forces like the SAS behind enemy lines are trained to leave men behind if it'll risk more lives. Now apply that to somewhere as far removed as a different planet and a recovery seems unthinkable.

Maybe so, but the team on Destiny were not Special Forces.

[KEK]

I'm not sure about the others, but James is.

[Flyboy]

I'm not sure about the others, but James is.

James WAS Special Forces OR Special Operations Forces (there's a HUGE difference), but without seeing the ep again, I can't comment as to exactly what she supposedly was. Either way, it wasn't an SF op though.

There's a lot of mystique about the idea of Special Forces and what they are and what exactly their nature is... A lot of it is not accurate, I would argue that most of the people on Destiny were not SF at all. Furthermore, the sort of mission, though remarkably challenging is nothing like an SF mission. SF operate in a very unique way, they almost stop being 'soldiers' because they throw the rule book, the regulations and pretty much military protocol out of the window. SF are legitimate irregular fighters.

When we consider that Royal Marines, some of the most highly trained CONVENTIONAL ground forces in the world, would risk all to rescue a fallen comrade... I see no reason why that wouldn't happen on Destiny..

[garhkal]

Doesn't make it right.

It may not.. But it does show that people do things like that all the time.

[Quetzocoetl]

Hindsight is 20/20.
Had they known they were going to lose more people than they would rescue, they probably would've been a little less willing to send a large team out, hell, had they known that TJ's fire was going to be enough for the animals to let her and the other guy go, they wouldn't have even bothered with the mission in the first place.

In their eyes it wasn't "We are sending a squad on a rescue mission for 2 people, knowing that most of the squad won't make it" it was "We are sending a well armed squad with military and wilderness training on a rescue mission to retrieve 2 people from the clutches of a single beast as intelligent as a lion". They had almost no reason to believe that a team prepared and on the hunt would have suffered as many casualties as it did.

[thekillman]

In their eyes it wasn't "We are sending a squad on a rescue mission for 2 people, knowing that most of the squad won't make it" it was "We are sending a well armed squad with military and wilderness training on a rescue mission to retrieve 2 people from the clutches of a single beast as intelligent as a lion". They had almost no reason to believe that a team prepared and on the hunt would have suffered as many casualties as it did.

yup. you don't fight a war if you do not believe you can win.

for Young the risk assesment was simple:

-2 people lost
-multiple, quite well trained soldiers with far, FAR superior weapons go to rescue them
-enemy: 1 lion-esque creature


they had plenty of bullets and weapons to bring TJ back.

Hindsight is 20/20.
Had they known they were going to lose more people than they would rescue, they probably would've been a little less willing to send a large team out, hell, had they known that TJ's fire was going to be enough for the animals to let her and the other guy go, they wouldn't have even bothered with the mission in the first place.

if only we knew everything in hindsight. ()

yes. if they knew what was gonna happen, they would've all sat back and waited for the big lion to go see the fire and let TJ and the other guy go.

but hey, if we go further back in time, Young would've put varro and Greer in one room on Destiny while a dozen marines guard the base camp, with ten Kino's on patrol

[spinny magee]

They learn their rescue tactics from Makepeace obviously