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    Second Lieutenant Buck32's Avatar
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    Well i'm a nurse who has worked in theatre and i think that whole kidney transplant story was ridiculous, even a medic like TJ supposedly is wouldn't be able to harvest and transplant a kidney with only scientists with limited medical knowledge as assistants, hell most fully qualified Doctors probably couldn't do it!!! You have to be a surgical specialist to even attempt it. It isn't as simple as the show portrayed and i would be surprised that a lone medic could accomplish it without dire consequences.

    if they were trying for realism they really missed it there!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck32 View Post
    Well i'm a nurse who has worked in theatre and i think that whole kidney transplant story was ridiculous, even a medic like TJ supposedly is wouldn't be able to harvest and transplant a kidney with only scientists with limited medical knowledge as assistants, hell most fully qualified Doctors probably couldn't do it!!! You have to be a surgical specialist to even attempt it. It isn't as simple as the show portrayed and i would be surprised that a lone medic could accomplish it without dire consequences.

    if they were trying for realism they really missed it there!!!
    I second this comment as well. You need years of specialist training, not even a standard doctor would be confident in doing something like this. TJ has no chance, although I'm guessing they subvert that problem with the whole amanda perry hologram thing...
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    Emergencies require heroic effort. I'd give it a go, any volunteers??
    http://youtu.be/mXiMpdrapgg(Lazlo's latest movie "Space Captain"http://orionspace.info/index.php Lazlo's home

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    Me now where's my scalpel and who's first .

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    You can't remove a kidney from the back because the ribs are in the way. You usually approach it from the sides because the kidneys are in the retroperitoneal space. If you look at photos of prisoners from other countries, you'll often see a diagonal scar on their sides.

    As for placing the new kidney, it's usually in the abdomen, because of ease of access. I believe it's attached to an illiac artery and vein, or one of the branches from it.

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    Transplants usually require regular medication for years afterward to keep the recipient's body from rejecting the donor's organ. This medication basically amounts to an attack on the immune system, since the immune system is what rejects the organ. It's complicated as hell and I found it less believable that TJ did it as a field medic than a computer downloading someone's consciousness.

    I'm not a doctor, but, man, TJ's no surgeon. There must have been some other big Ancient-y stuff at work aside from Perry's presence.

    I still liked this episode, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Python View Post
    Transplants usually require regular medication for years afterward to keep the recipient's body from rejecting the donor's organ. This medication basically amounts to an attack on the immune system, since the immune system is what rejects the organ. It's complicated as hell and I found it less believable that TJ did it as a field medic than a computer downloading someone's consciousness.

    I'm not a doctor, but, man, TJ's no surgeon. There must have been some other big Ancient-y stuff at work aside from Perry's presence.

    I still liked this episode, though.
    Perhaps Oma is keeping an eye on us

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    Quote Originally Posted by themeatcleaver View Post
    Perhaps Oma is keeping an eye on us
    Nah she to busy having her cat fight with Adrea.

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    That was Morgan Le Fay.. Oma is battling Anubis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    That was Morgan Le Fay.. Oma is battling Anubis.
    Same difference they both got there claws out and having a punch up with a fellow ascended being.
    Last edited by knowles2; April 5th, 2011 at 05:27 AM.

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    Rodger..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck32 View Post
    Well i'm a nurse who has worked in theatre and i think that whole kidney transplant story was ridiculous, even a medic like TJ supposedly is wouldn't be able to harvest and transplant a kidney with only scientists with limited medical knowledge as assistants, hell most fully qualified Doctors probably couldn't do it!!! You have to be a surgical specialist to even attempt it. It isn't as simple as the show portrayed and i would be surprised that a lone medic could accomplish it without dire consequences.

    if they were trying for realism they really missed it there!!!
    I totally agree with this. TJ was a MEDIC. not a doctor, not a surgeon, never mind a specialized renal transplant surgeon.

    My other issue with this episode is simply this. Volker would not have died that day, so why didn't they simply wait a day and get REAL surgeons to do the surgery.

    They would have fixed the Gin/Amanda problem and then could have used the stones to get real surgeons on board the ship.

    I love SGU but this storyline felt very false. People don't die from renal failure on the SAME day they faint from symptoms and medics can't do transplants, even with medical databases in-front of them.

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