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    Heart Rodney McKay/John Sheppard Slash/Discussion/Appreciation

    Do they exist? I am fairly new to Gateworld, and the SG universe really, but are Sheppard/McKay Shippers really out there? I can maybe see Sheppard/Ford , but it doesn't make sense to me.

    Personally, I am a Sheppard/Emmagan myself
    Last edited by Luneria; January 23rd, 2005 at 05:16 PM.

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    Zat Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    Man, you shippers want everyone together.
    This is crazy!

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    Default Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterPower
    Man, you shippers want everyone together.
    This is crazy!
    LMAO.

    I can't say that I'm a Sheppard/Mckay shipper myself but I've seen enough fan fictions to convince me that Sheppard/McKay Shippers do exist.

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    There are so many shipper threads.
    The only shipper thread I haven't seen is a Teal'c/Hammond one.
    But knowing how much you people need a certain couple to get together, I don't doubt that it won't show.

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    Default Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    Relationship as in eventual best buds through mutual respect... because they are gonna face and defeat many, many challenges? Sure! Buddy 'ships beat love 'ships every day... they make more sense, they work better, and people don't get quite so stupid about them.

    As in a slasher 'ship? I just don't see those two clicking that way.

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    Default Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterPower
    There are so many shipper threads.
    The only shipper thread I haven't seen is a Teal'c/Hammond one.
    But knowing how much you people need a certain couple to get together, I don't doubt that it won't show.
    Hey, there isn't a Jack/Thor thread, and there is fic out there for that one



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    Default Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterPower
    Man, you shippers want everyone together.
    This is crazy!
    I'm with you.. lol. this is crazy

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    Default Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    Only marginally more insane than every other ship thread...

    The very setup of the stories of SG-1 and SG-A make almost ALL relationships verboten. The way the stories are told keep the hints of such forbidden feelings very understated.

    AND YET LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF OBSESSVIE SHIP THREADS.

    What this mean I'm not sure. An excess if teen fans? Most Scifi fans aren't in a relationship or aren't satisfied so they obsess elsewhere? Could be!

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    Default Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    It is usually a very bad idea to cast assumptions about the motivations of other segments of the fan community just because you do not see or enjoy what they do. Please remember that everyone deserves respect, and not to have their social lives or ages questioned.



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    I'm not questioning anyone's PARTICULAR life, but rather speculatng about what elements generate such a strong aggregate demographic.

    One must admit, the degree of obsession is of a very large order. If I could figure out how to do polls on this forum, I'd probably go after what the underlying differences are via that means.... rather than just make educated guesses.

    I find your warning about "respect" to be suggest you find my general interest far more personalized than the actual fact of the matter.

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    No, you aren't questioning anyone in particular's life, but a large segment of the communities collective lives. That's still not particularly cool. I understand that you do not think that it is normal, but after twenty years in Science Fiction fandoms I can assure you that Stargate is no different than any other series in that fans will find romance where they want to in about the same proportions.



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    Yes, I've observed other science fiction fandoms as well. Some more or less sophisticated in their shippiness, some more or less obsessive. I've even posted polls regarding those very characteristics here and there, ergo the "educated" part of my educated guess.

    Methinks I'll look toward posting such polls at some other SG-1 forums where I HAVE figured out how to do polls to firm that up. The age and gender questions, at least, are easily asked without anyone getting their back up at how not "cool" such observations and evaluation of same is or is not.

    I'm asknig a question and speculating about reasons out of curiosity, not any ad hominem aspect. I do find your insistence on taking offense despite that assurance, however, rather interesting in and of itself... but that IS something that would be personal and impolite for me to speculate about. even if some of the things that first spring to mind aren't impolite.

    Point of fact, I'd even be interested in hearing YOUR take on what characteristics are associated with specific shippers.... but I doubt you'd do that. So the question is, just how obvious does something have to be for you NOT to take offense. For example, it'd be a fair bet that actual ROMANTIC McKay/Sheppard fans would not be heterosexuals. As a non-homophobic straight guy, I can say that without the slightest bit of ad hominem intent (and if anybody wants to gay bash, I'll be the one crying UNCOOL qutie loudly)... but is that sort of informed, unbiased, and good faith observation ALSO uncool in and of itself?

    How far do you ride that highhorse?
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    Default Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Buddha
    Yes, I've observed other science fiction fandoms as well. Some more or less sophisticated in their shippiness, some more or less obsessive. I've even posted polls regarding those very characteristics here and there, ergo the "educated" part of my educated guess.

    Methinks I'll look toward posting such polls at some other SG-1 forums where I HAVE figured out how to do polls to firm that up. The age and gender questions, at least, are easily asked without anyone getting their back up at how not "cool" such observations and evaluation of same is or is not.

    I'm asknig a question and speculating about reasons out of curiosity, not any ad hominem aspect. I do find your insistence on taking offense despite that assurance, however, rather interesting in and of itself... but that IS something that would be personal and impolite for me to speculate about. even if some of the things that first spring to mind aren't impolite.

    Point of fact, I'd even be interested in hearing YOUR take on what characteristics are associated with specific shippers.... but I doubt you'd do that. So the question is, just how obvious does something have to be for you NOT to take offense. For example, it'd be a fair bet that actual ROMANTIC McKay/Sheppard fans would not be heterosexuals. As a non-homophobic straight guy, I can say that without the slightest bit of ad hominem intent (and if anybody wants to gay bash, I'll be the one crying UNCOOL qutie loudly)... but is that sort of informed, unbiased, and good faith observation ALSO uncool in and of itself?

    How far do you ride that highhorse?
    Yawn.... who cares what makes shippers ship? And who cares if it's because they might have crap romantic lives or not...

    I'm a shipper and proud of it!
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    Default Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    Well, let's see. I'm a shipper. I am not a teenager. I am not an unhappy single woman. I am not a desperate married woman. So, there went your argument.

    You cannot paint shippers with this broad stroke upon which you insist. We generally have more dissimilar about us than alike. Talk with shippers and you'll find men and women, high school students and post-doctorates, married and single, conservative and liberal all. We don't even all agree on how we would like the relationship in question to resolve, if at all. What we have in common is that a relationship intrigues us, and that is something quite extraordinary.

    And it's something we like, just as nineteenth-century literature is something I like. Is there any greater reason you need? I think it's ridiculous to ask that we justify it any further, especially as we haven't asked you why you object to it. If it offends you, ignore it. You won't hear me objecting.

    As for the majority of Sheppard/McKay fans not being heterosexuals, you would be well-advised to know that most slash writers and fans in the majority of fandoms are, in fact, heterosexual women. Do your research before you make broad statements like that.

    Mel

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    Default Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luneria
    Do they exist? I am fairly new to Gateworld, and the SG universe really, but are Sheppard/McKay Shippers really out there? I can maybe see Sheppard/Ford , but it doesn't make sense to me.

    Personally, I am a Sheppard/Emmagan myself
    yes, they do. They post fanfic on fanfiction.net. I'm not a slasher myself (same sex relationships tend to be called slash instead of ship), and I tend not to see slash, but I could see this one, if I squinted my eyes enough. I tend to ship myself (m/f relationships)

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    Default Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    Ladies and Gentlemen

    If you don't like the topic of a thread, don't read it.

    both shippers and non-shippers are welcome here, and as such, there will be threads that simply do not appeal to other posters

    The topic of this thread is Sheppard and McKay shippers. Unless you wish to discuss the relationship between Shep and McKay, then please leave this thread.

    Gateworld rules prohibit insults and personal attacks...and there are comments in this thread that are just that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Buddha
    For example, it'd be a fair bet that actual ROMANTIC McKay/Sheppard fans would not be heterosexuals.

    Fair Ladies of Slash, please come and educate this one!!

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    On the subject, yes, I think I could easily see Rodney/Shep slash. I was a rather big Sam/Janet fan while that option was still available, though I honestly see lots of UST between Carson and Rodney.



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    Default Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skydiver
    Ladies and Gentlemen

    If you don't like the topic of a thread, don't read it.

    both shippers and non-shippers are welcome here, and as such, there will be threads that simply do not appeal to other posters

    The topic of this thread is Sheppard and McKay shippers. Unless you wish to discuss the relationship between Shep and McKay, then please leave this thread.

    Gateworld rules prohibit insults and personal attacks...and there are comments in this thread that are just that.
    Sorry Skydiver, I shall edit my post...

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    Default Re: Sheppard/McKay Shippers?

    I say, let the Sheppard/McKay slash begin! Whatever floats your boat!

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