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    Hmm, very true. Didn't see Harlan making any creepy 'toys'. Although he did make copies of SG-1. Let's not call them 'toys' shall we? Yikes, that puts bad pictures in the brain!

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    Have you only just started watching stargate?

    I have put some info in spoilers so you can look at it if you choose.

    Just started with season 1 in may. JUst fell in love with it quick!

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    Com'traya has got to be the most annoying stargate word ever. But i like it
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    Any time you can get multiple Sams in the same room, you've got yourself a good episode.

    Rating: 6/10

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    Harlan's people is pretty advanced to be able to copy the memories and personality of the real person. It's not cloning, right?Are they like Data of ST:TNG?

    First time I saw this episode, I really believed that they were just transferred to different bodies. So when Jack-droid found out the truth, I felt his pain.

    So yeah, I like this episode. It made me think about immortality and being human. I pity Harlan for being alone for so many thousand of years. He's quite nutty now, kinda annoying too. But overall he's a good, uh, being.
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    Can anybody tell me why we wouldn't want this technology? I mean I know it is morally questionable, but couldn't we modify these robots to not have all the personality traits of a human. They could be like an extremely advanced M.A.L.P. however we could program them with military training so they could be temporary foot soldiers for the SGC. What about commercial or governmental purposes? I mean Fireman, Soldiers, Etc.. I'm not saying we put it into mass production immediately, but we could have at least studied it.

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    (I have another question)

    All of the Stargate destinations we had at this point came from the abydos cartouche correct? So if the goa'uld had knowledge of Altair why didn't they go there and take the technology from Harlan after which they would study and destroy him.

    Now let's say for arguments sake that they had in fact already been there and Harlan had fought them off. Why would he not have known what Teal'c was? For that matter why wouldn't he have told SG-1 about it?

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    An interesting episode, I liked how we saw SG-1 come through the Gate from the view of behind the gate that was certainly different.

    I wonder where Sam's mole was.

    You'd think for argument sake they would of developed a mobile power source, especially given the amount of time they had and the fact that your basically stuck for the rest of your "life" which could be a very long time.

    Interesting point captain jake, I guess it comes down to the morality/ethical issues of having copies of humans being around. Like the SGC really shouldn't of let them go given the that they had all the knowledge of their human counterparts but I guess it was a combination of the fact that the real SG-1 hadn't returned and the real SG-1 wouldn't hand over information no matter the price. I guess you could program them but given AI eventually they would want to learn and grow so assuming that no program is perfect and eventually they could advance beyond their program it could become a problem. But yes there really isn't a sound argument while they wouldn't at least want the technology to study etc.

    I don't really have a explanation for your second point, maybe the planet shifted out of lineament for a time and the Goa'uld didn't compensate or maybe the Gate was originally on the surface (very likely) and they didn't have technology worth stealing at the time or maybe some other technology was stolen/damaged and all knowledge they had of the Goa'uld was lost. Although the most simply explanation is we are probably thinking to much into it and the writers at the time just hadn't thought of all these possibilities.

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    Or maybe simply they haven't found it yet. Which is quite hard to believe...

    This ep. was one of the most boring ones on season 1. Overall the season is awesome imo.

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    Then again, without a human "mind" in them, perhaps they wouldn't work. Or turn into cylons?
    *snort

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    I liked the interaction between the two Jack's.

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    I have to agree with Black_Sheep it is one of the most boring ones. But I do like how the Jack's always talk crap to eachother lol
    trying to figure out whos the better Jack lol.

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    Hey, Harlan said he was the last survivor of the Altera. Could this be the same as the Alterans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The6thRace View Post
    Hey, Harlan said he was the last survivor of the Altera. Could this be the same as the Alterans?
    I think Harlan is from Altair, not Altera.

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    Plus the technology didn't look like Alterans design

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    If you just returned from a mission, the doctor draw's your blood for a test, its a white fluid.

    Do you,

    a) freak out
    b) freak out and cut somewhere unimportant to see more
    c) freak out and cut your wrist deeply lengthways in a way that WILL give you certain death and if not paralyse your hand (remember they don't know they are machines yet!)

    .... what the!!
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    this was a good episode i love sg1as robots and not knowing they are thats what made this episode one of the best
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    the part where teal'c beats up O'neill is brutal imo

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    This was a sad episode, but still very well done.

    One thing I would have done as the SG-1 team was involve them in the search, for instance, instead of hanging out in a boring factory, why not set up an entire science lab inside the factory, and have them reasearch alien technology in the hours when they are not repairing anything. They could come up with some great stuff - they are extremely smart already, and with the mathematical 'updates' in their brains they could work faster than any human.
    Last edited by shinysign; March 8th, 2009 at 12:04 PM.

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