What I remember from the episode space was that folks were freaked out by the fact that the Blues sent a one word response "in english." This was an acknowledgement that that really would be strange. It was also in that episode that we learned the Blues had access to Rush for a while and had a way create a direct neural interface with his brain. If they have tech to directly read a brain then a translation matrix probably wouldn't be as tricky to work out.
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My one complaint is with the Chloe resolution. While I'm glad that its over (or is it?) I expected something bigger or grander or more shocking to happen that the audience wouldn't expect or would maybe say "it would be cool if...but that would never happen." One idea I liked is the idea of Chloe being a sort of clone ala Bashir in DS9 when he was replaced with a changeling, or Chloe becoming part alien/part human...but oh well. This is a problem that Stargate has often suffered from when it comes to paying off plots, whether its villains or romance or just big character moments/changes like the thing with Chloe. The writers build it up and then when it reaches the climax it sort of fizzles. The whole McKay/Keller/Ronon thing is a great example. It's like they start working with it and then they're like "can't figure out where to take it so lets just end it now." As different as SGU is from Atlantis or SG-1, the weak resolution to the Chloe plot felt like something they would pull on us in either of the earlier shows...
...while I still LOVE SGU and say its the best show, I always felt that SGU would be it from this team as far as Stargate goes and that the next series would be a new team of writers, whether it had its full 5 year run or if it was canceled prematurely. MGM would be careful not to repeat the same mistakes that Paramount made with Star Trek, which is still fresh in the minds of many SF fans today (though I admit that Enterprise and Voyager hold up better if you watch them years after having not seen any Trek). In an interview, Rick Berman made a great statement about how he felt it was a bad idea going into Enterprise so soon after Voyager and I wish the Stargate people would have talked to him before going into SGU to learn "wait a bit."That is just my two cents.
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Originally posted by Browncoat1984 View PostMy one complaint is with the Chloe resolution. While I'm glad that its over (or is it?) I expected something bigger or grander or more shocking to happen that the audience wouldn't expect or would maybe say "it would be cool if...but that would never happen." One idea I liked is the idea of Chloe being a sort of clone ala Bashir in DS9 when he was replaced with a changeling, or Chloe becoming part alien/part human...but oh well. This is a problem that Stargate has often suffered from when it comes to paying off plots, whether its villains or romance or just big character moments/changes like the thing with Chloe. The writers build it up and then when it reaches the climax it sort of fizzles. The whole McKay/Keller/Ronon thing is a great example. It's like they start working with it and then they're like "can't figure out where to take it so lets just end it now." As different as SGU is from Atlantis or SG-1, the weak resolution to the Chloe plot felt like something they would pull on us in either of the earlier shows...sigpic
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Originally posted by ns2 View PostWas I the only that enjoyed the awesome background music esp when they were getting the Drone, brilliant
In Deliverance I liked the music when the blue aliens' ships came out of hyperspace ( it actually sounds pretty badass ) and right after that ( the music played on the bridge during their reaction to the blue aliens showing up ) , when they caught the drone, the ursini sacrifice and all the music of Scott bringing Chloe to the blue aliens.
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Hi Everyone,
I'm new here at the forum. I thought I would start by giving my opinion about Deliverance.
Well, after I watched the episode. I guess I liked it, but I guess it's not what I was waiting for. I thought it would be better or something good to start 2.5 with.
One of the things I didn't like was that the Blueberries healed Chloe. That was not a good decision from the writers. IMO, they could have done something new with her new personality and body like a new arc maybe by making her a main villain with her sadness for her father as a main motive or she could have been a way to make the blueberries allies or a way to destroy them. That's why I would give this episode 3 out of 5 stars.
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Originally posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View PostThere are always a few high points. Young is firmly in command and the crew appears to be behind his leadership, even the Telford/Rush/Wray contingent. It may not have been a command he wanted to take on, or one that he felt he could manage, but he appears to have finally accepted it and the crew have accepted him there.
Originally posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View PostOne of the seemingly larger changes is in Rush, and while the change appears to be abrupt, I believe it has more to do with his belief that everyone on board is on board for a reason. The notion of ‘destiny’ has seized him, even though his rational mind would have dismissed it out of hand previously. The change is nuanced – one of methods
Originally posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View Postand if Rush wants people to produce for him, he appears to have learned that there are ways to get people to do more. One of those ways is to treat them better. Treating them poorly certainly hasn’t worked. Not only has Eli noticed the change but he also notes the pragmatism, when Rush quips that it was the best way to get things done.
Originally posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View PostI can’t help but feel a bit of dread for Rush, given this new outlook. He’s come a long way in terms of character development and now that he’s got that new outlook – not only on the crew but on all the things that have happened, including Young’s stranding him – I wonder if he will live long enough to see it through to the end? Is his arc complete? And what happens to him if it is?
Originally posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View PostThe scientific and military teams worked seamlessly with each other in this episode. Park was delightful as always and her ability to accomplish a great deal of good with such cheer reminds me of Firefly’s Kaylee. Not a power in the ‘verse could keep Park down either.
Originally posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View PostEli is developing into a fine, strong young man, more confident in his place.
The whole McKay/Keller/Ronon thing is a great example. It's like they start working with it and then they're like "can't figure out where to take it so lets just end it now."
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Chloe's time to shine finally comes here, this is a result of her building up her hype episode after episode; the position she's placed herself in with her fear and lack of fear, her newfound abilities and vulnerabilities and most of all, her newfound importance. She definately takes the candor well, showing what it truly means to be in her position; to be faced with the eventuality of being given to the blue aliens, she doesn't know what they'll do and even the crew doesn't want to give her up but she does it, she reassures Scott even though she doesn't know what's coming. It's definitely something that puts the character on a high note, it's also something that shows various grey areas; if there's one thing this show does well, it's that it tests our perception of what we see.
The Blue Aliens turn out to be surprisingly good, I thought they were this enemy that was out to destroy them but here we see them helping Chloe out and saving the Destiny; they really must have some sort of honor going on, dignity that we can never hope to understand. It's one of the few bright spots of SGU, that alien civilizations aren't exactly good and evil and the motives can only be guessed upon, example being that the crew definitely is on edge in letting Chloe go; there's a sort of family bond to it but it's also obvious what they're thinking about. They're going to attack, they're going to take Chloe and kill her, they're up to no good and that thought definately relates to us upon the first viewing. It's an interesting social situation, we can't help but to judge things based on what we see and what we commonly believe and that common belief forms an essential part of society which provides an interesting question, are our guys better than our logic. The Ursini turn out to help the Destiny but I wasn't shocked about their mistrust mainly because I picked up the message that said "Attack the Main Ship" which few managed to actually notice thus furthering the gut belief. (They thought the Destiny could attack the ship and destroy it, they were wrong.)
Aside from that, the tensity that's supposed to be there isn't. This was like watching an episode of Star Trek, there's trouble, there's sparks but they're oddly calm and compelling about it; like they're ignoring the trouble around them just to command. While there is some action and "Siege" like tendencies, I was quite disappointed by the lack of intensity in the acting, an episode really needed people to step up and showcase the high stakes it has. This seems to be the episode where I noticed that they started playing up the mistrust angle a lot, and I mean a lot... It seemed like there were more scenes about them arguing about mistrust and forcing the grey area rather than scenes which showed the characters and which showed the mission; (throughout the entire series.) it has already been established that this isn't black vs. white, why force it down our throats even further?
But there is a bright spot in that it has those naturalistic life moments that I like; the more somber side of the characters comes out here and Rush proves that he isn't just a manipulating A-hole; if only there were more moments like that in the series, to me it makes the series stand out from the other Stargate shows.Back from the grave.
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