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    Cool The Political Discussion Thread

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    Since we were/are getting off topic in the "language of the right: does it incite violence" thread, I decided to create a general political discussion thread, where there can be a general discussion of varying political topics...

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    Let's begin the discussion!
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    Default Re: The Political Discussion Thread

    Don't we have about a 100 general political threads
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    Default Re: The Political Discussion Thread

    Perhaps, but the other topic was becoming way off-topic, so I thought I would create a general (the argument can flow in any direction ) thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickington View Post
    Perhaps, but the other topic was becoming way off-topic, so I thought I would create a general (the argument can flow in any direction ) thread.
    Thier are more then a few general threads created over the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgate View Post
    Thier are more then a few general threads created over the years.
    But they're all boring and buried
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    Default Re: The Political Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rickington View Post
    Perhaps, but the other topic was becoming way off-topic
    Isn't everything in politics off-topic? Name one thing a politician can talk about without either getting into trouble, someone changing the subject or someone trying to hurt that politician and his believes with personal attacks?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickington View Post
    Perhaps, but the other topic was becoming way off-topic, so I thought I would create a general (the argument can flow in any direction ) thread.
    The one draw back I see to a general, as opposed to a specific thread to discuss a specific issue, is that it is amazingly easy to derail a political discussion. I think I'd prefer to discuss a single issue as it comes up, and stick to that issue as closely as possible. Sure, other threads can be derailed but there's a remedy for that. There is no remedy to get a topic back on topic if it's so general



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    Quote Originally Posted by xxxevilgrinxxx View Post
    The one draw back I see to a general, as opposed to a specific thread to discuss a specific issue, is that it is amazingly easy to derail a political discussion. I think I'd prefer to discuss a single issue as it comes up, and stick to that issue as closely as possible. Sure, other threads can be derailed but there's a remedy for that. There is no remedy to get a topic back on topic if it's so general
    Hey I happen to like free wheeling discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col.Foley View Post
    Hey I happen to like free wheeling discussion.
    So do I .

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    Whaling for what purpose?

    "Scientific research" whaling or whaling for food?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spimman View Post
    Since nothing is off the table...

    ...what are your thoughts on the politics of whaling?
    There is nothing whatsoever advantageous to anyone about whaling! And certainly none for the whales!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedwig View Post
    There is nothing whatsoever advantageous to anyone about whaling! And certainly none for the whales!
    Agreed! Whaling is a serious crime in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spimman View Post
    Since nothing is off the table...

    ...what are your thoughts on the politics of whaling?
    Whaling itself - it's wrong to murder endangered animals. Trying to get around the law is wrong.
    As for the politics of whaling - it's fuelled by the money obtained in something that ought to be illegal, so I don't think much of the politics of whaling, or politicians that support whaling.



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    I think whaling should for food should be 100% band for the time being until they get back to a strong population size. I don't know why whales need to be killed for 'scientific purposes' but if they do then it needs to be severely limited not to extent of the Japanese. I also wouldn't condemn groups like Sea Shepherd as long as they don't target the whalers with anything that permanently hurt them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedwig View Post
    There is nothing whatsoever advantageous to anyone about whaling! And certainly none for the whales!
    I see no problem with conducting non-lethal scientific studies on whales, but I assume that the type of whaling being discussed is the kind that's lethal to the whale population. Well, I personally wouldn't eat any whale meat but I can see the advantage in using whales as a food source provided a steady population could be available. And if whales are currently endangered then yes I think there should be a ban on hunting them for food or another purpose until they get back to a stronger population level. But like I said I can see how advantageous they would be used as food. You realize how many people one whale could feed? Some people here are vegan/vegetarian and I respect that. I am not and neither are a great many other people and it would be wrong to infringe on their freedoms to hunt creatures for food beyond necessary temporary bans when certain populations used for hunting are nearing dangerously low levels. I would rather not see a society like Seaquest: DSV where meat-eating was banned altogether. Would I ever become at the very least vegetarian one day? Maybe. Anything is possible. I'd consider it if those soy "meat" products I see in the organic sectin ever come down in cost and their texture and taste improved. I've had Boca Burgers before and they're actually not a bad substitute for the real thing.....

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    I personally don't eat whale meat because there's other fish I eat that I like much better....like marinated baked tilappia (sp?) fillets....yum....expensive when fresh like most seafood so I don't eat it often but yummy stuff

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    I don’t have a problem with hunting a whale per say, if this is just talking about killing a whale for practical reason, like food. However only an idiot hunts a species to extinction, a good hunter should manage the species they are after, ensure that there are sufficient numbers so that they can continue to survive and provide a resource for the hunter. The fact that whales are endangered shows the idiocy of the whaling community. I’m a hunter, though obviously shooting rabbits and pheasants in England is a little different in scale to whale hunting. However the principle is the same, myself and fellow hunters and game keepers, we don’t over hunt and gamekeepers manage populations to make sure the numbers are kept up. After all it’s in our best interests to keep the population of these creatures high so there’s plenty of them for us to shoot for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spimman View Post
    Is science used as a smokescreen for whaling for other purposes?
    Absolutely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mighty 6 platoon View Post
    I don’t have a problem with hunting a whale per say, if this is just talking about killing a whale for practical reason, like food. However only an idiot hunts a species to extinction, a good hunter should manage the species they are after, ensure that there are sufficient numbers so that they can continue to survive and provide a resource for the hunter. The fact that whales are endangered shows the idiocy of the whaling community. I’m a hunter, though obviously shooting rabbits and pheasants in England is a little different in scale to whale hunting. However the principle is the same, myself and fellow hunters and game keepers, we don’t over hunt and gamekeepers manage populations to make sure the numbers are kept up. After all it’s in our best interests to keep the population of these creatures high so there’s plenty of them for us to shoot for years to come.
    indeed.....I don't hunt mainly cuz I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.....

    I tried some skeet-shooting once at boy scout summer camp and I missed every single clay disc....the only one that broke did so cuz it hit the tree....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedwig View Post
    Absolutely!
    well I'd highly doubt science is being use as a smokescreen for hunting whales to extinction in ALL cases....but in some cases yeah it probably is

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