The Political Discussion Thread

[Annoyed]

Not true. He is definitely. You just have to look at the countless scandals and corruption he has been a part of. What has been shown is that the GOP cares more about keeping their side in power. Such an idea was inconceivable to the framers of the Constitution

And the Democrats aren't guilty of the same thing? And the idea of a partisan impeachment certainly did occur to them. That's why they set it up so that a partisan, politically motivated impeachment was as near to impossible as they could make it.

Here's something else to think about. The Democrats keep pushing for calling more witnesses that they could have called themselves in the House.

Calling more witnesses might be a good idea. Let's call Schiff. Let's call Biden and his kid. Let's call all of the Democrats who cooked up this witch hunt and have them tell us under oath how they cooked up this witch hunt. We already know why.

Remember, just as the Democrats controlled who was called in the House, now it's the Republicans who call the shots.

I doubt they will do this, but I would like to seem them press their advantage for all its worth. How many of the aforementioned witnesses would get nailed for lying to congress under oath?

Biden, who is their best shot at winning 2020 would be taken out almost immediately. Followed by many others in the Dems leadership.

Yes, without a doubt, this whole sham was boneheaded strategy on the part of the Democrats.

But I'm betting the Republicans won't press this to the end as I think they should. They're just gonna acquit and move on.

[Annoyed]

Here's a scary thought.
Now there are folks who want to tell people how to vote.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...ey-ncna1110356

Voters elect a President that some folks don't like. So those folks call him a racist, and then want to make voting for him unconstitutional, and therefore those votes don't count. Or worse, those voters are penalized somehow,

These folks want a democracy? Only if you agree with them.

[SoulReaver]

They know they aren't going to win this November, and the stench of desperation and fear surrounds them

no **** everyone knows Government will rig the election (just like Putin in Russia)

[jelgate]

And the Democrats aren't guilty of the same thing? And the idea of a partisan impeachment certainly did occur to them. That's why they set it up so that a partisan, politically motivated impeachment was as near to impossible as they could make it.

Here's something else to think about. The Democrats keep pushing for calling more witnesses that they could have called themselves in the House.

Calling more witnesses might be a good idea. Let's call Schiff. Let's call Biden and his kid. Let's call all of the Democrats who cooked up this witch hunt and have them tell us under oath how they cooked up this witch hunt. We already know why.

Remember, just as the Democrats controlled who was called in the House, now it's the Republicans who call the shots.

I doubt they will do this, but I would like to seem them press their advantage for all its worth. How many of the aforementioned witnesses would get nailed for lying to congress under oath?

Biden, who is their best shot at winning 2020 would be taken out almost immediately. Followed by many others in the Dems leadership.

Yes, without a doubt, this whole sham was boneheaded strategy on the part of the Democrats.

But I'm betting the Republicans won't press this to the end as I think they should. They're just gonna acquit and move on.

That's some elementary school logic there. Because someone does it is not justification for you to do it as well. The rest is just an unfocused rant that proves GF's point that you just blindly believe the Trump propaganda

[SGalisa]

You are so used to lies from the Admin, you accept them as truth.

And you (and those who think/agree with you) are so used to the DEMs lying, that (generic) *you* accept their words as TRUTH.

The process was set up to prevent a partisan impeachment, which is what we have today. Naturally, the current effort is going to fail. It's supposed to.

As usual, the Democrats were stupid to even try it.

But after the biased witch hunt that we saw the Dems pull off in the House, they would be even more foolish to expect what they call a "fair" trial in the Senate.

Actually, I heard the DEMs wanted a NON-partisan participation from the Senate, as in
"YOU ALL will agree with US, or else *YOU* will not be able to vote in this impeachment process."

That's basically a summary of what Nancy Pelosi, Chucky Schumer and shifty Schiff were basically stating before the Senate session began speaking in sharing of the impeachment proceedings. Anyone who disagreed, hence, would side with Trump's *innocence* per say of any wrong-doing, whatever, would be disqualified from participating. That's the impression the DEMs gave in a nutshell over the recent last 2 weeks.

He and Chuckie had their crack at bat in the House. They wrote the rules and ran the show there. And they weren't subtle about carrying out a partisan witch hunt.

Now its the Senate's turn, and the Democrats can do nothing.

Oh, and nevermind the fact that after a month of stalling and stalling to set some date for the hearings, the DEMs finally claimed they were "ready", when all of a sudden, they made an announcement at the Senate hearings, that new amendments had to be investigated for processing, to which the Senate rejected at least 3 of those.

REALLY Democrats? What a bunch of whiny hypocrites. Every day, some new facet is discovered to ensure the absolute impeachment of Donald J.Trump. If the average person watching this whole process cannot SEE the endless delay tactics, until the DEMs get their way, then this world is already lost and doomed.


It's bad enough to think if the DEMs weren't chasing after removing Trump from POTUS office and *power* (symbolic or otherwise), they'd most likely all be forcing amended or new Environmental disaster regs/laws down our brains with their pursuit of
variations of AOC's GREEN NEW DEAL

and *CARBON footprint must equal ZERO*... ugh!

So why are some people setting fires in various places on the earth? That's adding the the whole "earth can't breath" problem.

Here's a scary thought.
Now there are folks who want to tell people how to vote.
. . .
These folks want a democracy? Only if you agree with them.

Absolutely.

If the people of the USA and the world cannot get it thru their brains that what the DEMs really want is absolute power and control of everything ... meaning, "AGREE with US and our (Democrat) agenda or else..." then I do not feel any sympathy to the people who vote DEM or socialist or communist or whatever (anti-Trump anything) for what will be coming as the end result of having a DEM everything. It will NOT be the utopia the voters have been fed fantasies of from the dripping words of the DEMs vying for that coveted POTUS position.

And still in the rumor-mill world, Hillary Clinton still might run for POTUS at the last minute.

[Gatefan1976]

That's some elementary school logic there. Because someone does it is not justification for you to do it as well. The rest is just an unfocused rant that proves GF's point that you just blindly believe the Trump propaganda

What is worse is that the GOP now -projects- what it would do and ASSUMES the dems would do it, while at the same time calling them weak for NOT doing it and taking advantage of it.
Not even a pretzel has a hope against their twistedly stupid "logic"

Trump may get another term, I have no reservations on the abject self destructive stupidity of America.
Just remember when we all move away from American leadership, you fools wanted it.

[SGalisa]

Here's something else to think about. The Democrats keep pushing for calling more witnesses that they could have called themselves in the House.

Calling more witnesses might be a good idea. Let's call Schiff. Let's call Biden and his kid. Let's call all of the Democrats who cooked up this witch hunt and have them tell us under oath how they cooked up this witch hunt. We already know why.

The DEMs don't want their guys, like the Bidens testifying. I've heard radio hosts claiming that if the Bidens get called up as witnesses or to testify "under oath"... it is believed they will be FORCED to TELL the Truth. Hmmmm. That is true, only IF they don't purjer themselves under OATH. Contradictory details don't add up to the TRUTH, but half-truths or outright full fledged lies. That is the problem.

How can anyone trust the DEMs who have proven themselves with reputations for lying..? This whole "impeachment" process is a SHAM and a SHAME to begin with. SHAME on the Dems for the circus they have created for 3 disgraceful years of them doing absolutely nothing worthy. They have desperately and diligently pushed and pushed their voices and proverbial pens to focus on removing TRUMP any way, shape or form that they could... and make it look convincing to the world that TRUMP is a disgrace, etc., etc. And then, they have the gall to collect a giant paycheck, with new members of Congress members getting over a hefty $170,000.00 USA annual salary (as of 2019). ...That is a One-person salary, regardless of the State they were voted into gov't power... that's more than most 2-family incomes collect together!

Trump may get another term, I have no reservations on the abject self destructive stupidity of America.
Just remember when we all move away from American leadership, you fools wanted it.

So, (GF) you'd rather see similar deja vu events that occurred when Obama was POTUS? That translates as having violent riots and entire neighborhood blocks and businesses being pillaged, vandalized, and/or burned down? If it was just one isolated town and happening only ONCE during Obama's entire 8 year POTUS term, maybe that might be an anomaly, but those events were occurring in more than one city / regional area and USA state.

Well, if the USA people decide to put the DEMs in charge, then they'll probably be turning the rest of this entire USA into dumps like Cali, gang-infested Chicago(ILL), and NY, just to name a few *other* CLASSIC examples. Look how fast the USA fell under Team Obama with gangs destroying neighborhoods. How long or how fast will it take for that to happen again under DEM reigns..? DEMs don't know how to discipline bad behaviors, until AFTER the deeds have wrecked lives ... and usually destroying the livelihoods of the hard-working business people (aka... look at the destruction of Baltimore MD, Ferguson MO, and even Portland OR as primo examples). Just look at the failures of California and New York DEMocratic ruling. The State of California is turning into a septic-tank "hell-hole"...people poo-poo'ing on the sidewalk, like a dog would, except wiping their butts with bare hands and tossing the c**p wherever. Cali used to pride itself in being pristine and "germ-free" but is turning into a disease-spreading, health nightmare. New York wants to be like Cali, and has its own political disasters brewing in the meantime.

I have coworkers and friends who have visited California, and SEEN first-hand the toilet dumping ground that public streets have become. My coworkers won't discuss it, unless it gets mentioned in passing. My best friend got an eye-full when she witnessed this disgusting new world she is now temporarily living in, and has to protect herself from getting physically sicker than her COPD has already put her in. Just breathing the air, she was coughing for 15 minutes straight, as if she was drowning from breathing the LA (near Hollywood), California air. This was 2 days ago. As we were saying our "good-byes" to each other (on the phone), she suddenly got an air-full of something awful and I refused to hang up the phone, until she stopped coughing and could talk and breath normal again. Simply breathing in fumes of someone else's poop odors gets her sick with whatever they've passed on via the air waves. I had a similar situation occur many years ago in Amish country, in a public restroom, while breathing in some hideous human poop odor that was inescapable nearby, and ended up sick with the noro-virus for the next 5 days.

But I'm betting the Republicans won't press this to the end as I think they should. They're just gonna acquit and move on.

Democrats are desperately trying to get the Republican Senators to change their POV's and vote FOR impeaching Trump. Then watch what happens next ---- the DEMs will do all they can to push VP Pence out of office and take over with Nancy Pelosi, but they might even push her out and put someone like shifty Schiff in charge as POTUS. Ugh...!
The stench of political shenanigans reeks up into the heavens...


Now for another *side issue*... (rant)
. . .

So, what about BERNIE Sanders...? At least 2 people working on his campaign process are promoting communistic tactics complete with tossing Republicans into "re-education camps" and working in gulags or being murdered outright for disagreeing with their ideals for the USA's future. AND Bernie hasn't confronted whether or not these high up workers of his are telling the truth. Both workers have taken down their social media sites or locked them from further comments.
The MEDIA/MSM is ignoring this.

My niece is a BERNIE supporter, and I know a few others who are, too. All of them believe Bernie's political ways are in agreement with theirs (that was when they thought Bernie was a "socialist" not a "commie").

Been trying to figure out how to share this news with them, but Facebook either removes or locks those types of comments from ever being passed on. Twitter is anti-Trump, so no point in even trying to explain anything on the birdie feeds.
Who is deceiving WHO?

[Gatefan1976]

God made me say it.

[Annoyed]

Democrats are desperately trying to get the Republican Senators to change their POV's and vote FOR impeaching Trump. Then watch what happens next ---- the DEMs will do all they can to push VP Pence out of office and take over with Nancy Pelosi, but they might even push her out and put someone like shifty Schiff in charge as POTUS. Ugh...!

They've gotta get 67 votes to convict in the Senate. That's a tall order.

They'll just keep throwing mud at the barn door hoping something sticks.

If they do get Trump out via impeachment or scandal, Pence better dig himself a hole, crawl in and pull it in after him. They'll be after his hide.

And still in the rumor-mill world, Hillary Clinton still might run for POTUS at the last minute.

Hey, it might happen. Wouldn't it be fun to see her get spanked again?