Originally posted by Annoyed
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All you see and read is filtered by your own bias, and I see ZERO evidence that you want to challenge that bias. I am asking you to discuss the issue, be willing to "threaten" my own bias (as you see it), but you will not.
It has been perverted into a system with two primary goals; lining the pockets of its employees and political indoctrination of its students.
Point one, lining it's pockets. exactly WHO are you talking about here?
It's not the teachers, because teachers spend money out of their own pockets to provide supplies for schools and are paid a pittance to do their jobs in the USA.
You want to talk about the structure of the management and politicians (or even the unions) lining their pockets, then talk about that, because it isn't the teachers who are "winning" here.
But you just say "teachers" and the "teachers union".
Why not compare the pay of soldiers to the support structure around them?
Nah, too easy to blame the grunts.
So, of course the left's idea is the same as always, pour more taxpayer dollars into it, which is what allows the costs to rise in the first place.
Now, let me blame the brave men and women who spend their lives doing the job you do not, or cannot do. That's what you do.
Your argument is not about teachers or soldiers, it's about government mismanagement, so actually talk about that.
What's wrong with forcing the costs into line to restore affordability?
Regarding financing, there is a large urban school district in a nearby city that I've referred to before; having the one of the highest spending per student stats in the country, but has at the same time, one of the most pathetic results in the country. It's graduation rate has been below 50% for most of its recent history, only recently getting above that mark.
This district is in financial hot water because it exceeded its budget, spending roughly 30 million dollars over and above what its budget allowed, with much of that spending going towards employee payroll & benefits of one sort or another. Just coincidentally, when the budget was being drawn up, there was a shortfall of 40 million that they couldn't seem to eliminate.
How about I blame soldiers? That's your "deal" right? Patriotism and doing what is right for those who fought for you.
Got some bone spurs?
So in short, they wanted the money, and spent it anyway, expecting someone else, either the city or the state to just step in and bail them out.
Your evidence, such as it is, says nothing at all about who or why there is a shortfall. Provide better evidence, or you are junk science.
I haven't referred to this scandal prior to this as the story is still being investigated, we don't have all the details yet.
Bhenghazi
Bill Clinton.
Didn't have evidence for them either, but you held onto them, didn't you?
And as far as the political indoctrination and so forth goes, We've beaten that horse till there isn't even a carcass left. I know it exists, you deny it, so we'll just leave that there.
Now you decry the very thing that made you "great" and vilify it's inherent concept of "all men being created equal" (quite a socialist concept), and expect that attitude to restore you to greatness?
I don't deny all aspects of science. However, when junk science is used to force a leftist political agenda, I will call it what it is. BS.
Then there is the issue of "settled science"
Science is never "settled", simply because we don't know everything, and we may never know everything, but if we simply deny information because it comes from a source we don't like, we fail. Apply your own rationale for that, and ask why you did it.
I don't have to have children in order to observe the results of what we are doing these days.
How arrogant of you.
And might I point out that before the boomers screwed things up, most couples could afford that "one parent at home" way of doing things on their own, without need of freebies? (K-12 education has always been free)
So, who do you actually care about?
YOU, or the USA?
The USA is great because of what it stands for on principle, not it's individual parts, much like any democracy.
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