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    Quote Originally Posted by KEK View Post
    It will, it has to. The Monarch needs to be apolitical, at least in public, and Charles is anything but. Personally I'm for keeping the monarchy in the UK at least, I think we get more from it than lose, but I do think the monarch should step down as head of the Church of England. The country is secular in spirit, and a head of state also being head of a church just doesn't seem right.
    And that, I fully agree with.

    Aside from the fact that I don't like Camilla.

    EDIT: Also, I don't think the House of Lords should have Lords Spiritual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goose View Post
    Actually, they're still providing a last meal, just not whatever the prisoner requests. Just the same as what everybody else gets. It's not like they're starving the folks before executing them.

    BTW, this particular inmate, was found guilty of a particularly heinous crime -
    Brewer, a white supremacist, was sentenced to death for a high-profile race crime, chaining James Byrd to a pick-up truck and dragging him along a road.
    This happened in Jasper, Texas. I used to live there when I was very young. It's a small town in east Texas with lots of "good old boys" who are rather warped in their thinking.

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    I'd think that if his death sentence had been held back for some reason, the others on Death Row would have killed him for losing their choice of last meal.

    That said, I doubt regardless of how much food is ordered, there is always going to be a person who just can't eat knowing they are going to be killed. If it gets too warm I can lose my my appetite, not sure how I'd react to being killed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofseas View Post
    I really hope he abdicates in favour of William.
    Never going to happen.

    What is it that is wrong with Charles he seems like alright guy with charity work and that.

    I also agree the monarch shouldn't be the head of the Church of England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben 'Teal'c would WIN!!' Noble View Post
    Never going to happen.

    What is it that is wrong with Charles he seems like alright guy with charity work and that.

    I also agree the monarch should be the head of the Church of England.
    Oh, I have no problem with his charity work. However, he gets far too involved in political matters, and considering that the monarch is traditionally apolitical, it could upset the balance of Parliament.

    Should or shouldn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofseas View Post
    Oh, I have no problem with his charity work. However, he gets far too involved in political matters, and considering that the monarch is traditionally apolitical, it could upset the balance of Parliament.
    I agree.

    Also, if the Queen lives as long as her mother, Charles could be 80 when he ascends the throne. Considering all the duties he will have to perform (at home and abroad), it isn't a great idea to have such an elderly monarch. I don't want to see a trend of elderly monarchs ascending the throne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben 'Teal'c would WIN!!' Noble View Post
    Never going to happen.
    I'd be extremely surprised if it didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goose View Post
    this guy at least we know was guilty (of particularly heinous stuff too) heck he even bragged about it. I don't support capital punishment regardless of crime, but I won't exactly weep over his execution


    on the other hand it's surprising that no one has mentioned Troy Davis. you know, the chap whose execution was making headlines just a few days ago ? (or is it for some reason taboo ?)

    anyway at this point it's not so much his guilt that's the issue (for now we'll never know if he was guilty or not) but the fact that he was executed solely on the basis of eyewitness testimony - and tbh that pisses me off
    isn't the death penalty in the Land Of The Free™ supposedely applied only when guilt is "beyond reasonable doubt" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofseas View Post
    Oh, I have no problem with his charity work. However, he gets far too involved in political matters, and considering that the monarch is traditionally apolitical, it could upset the balance of Parliament.

    Should or shouldn't?
    For example?

    Sorry that should say shouldn't

    Quote Originally Posted by KEK View Post
    I'd be extremely surprised if it didn't.
    Hes been waiting all his life to become king I don't see him giving it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben 'Teal'c would WIN!!' Noble View Post
    Hes been waiting all his life to become king I don't see him giving it up.
    I don't see him having much choice in the matter. He'll be under immense pressure from all sides to do it.

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    I don't see him having much choice in the matter. He'll be under immense pressure from all sides to do it.
    Not from all sides. Regardless, it is his right. He's the Prince of Wales. There is no Constitutional provision to remove him. Queen Elizabeth will never abdicate - she has always fought for the royal dynasty which includes her first-born son, Charles. The elder generation of Brits will never tolerate it, although younger people likely would prefer William.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolamom View Post
    Not from all sides. Regardless, it is his right. He's the Prince of Wales. There is no Constitutional provision to remove him. Queen Elizabeth will never abdicate - she has always fought for the royal dynasty which includes her first-born son, Charles. The elder generation of Brits will never tolerate it, although younger people likely would prefer William.
    I don't think there's any talk of forcibly removing him from the throne, but rather... arguing, shall we say... to abdicate in favour of William. And there is certainly a precedence from abdication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goose View Post
    I don't think there's any talk of forcibly removing him from the throne, but rather... arguing, shall we say... to abdicate in favour of William. And there is certainly a precedence from abdication.
    He's likely to be fairly old when he ascends to the throne and consequently his reign will be short. I just can't see him giving it up - not after waiting for perhaps 70 or even up to 80 years.

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    Has he been waiting though? It seems fairly widely accepted in the UK than William will be next to the throne. If Charles cared that much about it, he'd have stayed apolitical and kept himself a viable monarch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben 'Teal'c would WIN!!' Noble View Post
    For example?

    Sorry that should say shouldn't

    Hes been waiting all his life to become king I don't see him giving it up.
    He gets extremely outspoken on matters like global warming, he sends memos to politicians in which he advocates his views, and he has practically always been surrounded by controversy, whether or not he causes it. I think it would be a good thing to have a fresh face on the throne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofseas View Post
    He gets extremely outspoken on matters like global warming, he sends memos to politicians in which he advocates his views, and he has practically always been surrounded by controversy, whether or not he causes it. I think it would be a good thing to have a fresh face on the throne.
    I remember there was something a couple of years ago about him trying to influence planning decisions when he didn't like the style of the building being built.

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    He would probably being so outspoken if he become monarch but point taken.

    Considering what happened last time a monarch abdictated I don't see him doing it and I don't see William asking him to do so either.

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    In a practical sense, I don't see him stepping aside, and never seeing William ask him to do it. I simply don't fancy the concept of Charles on the crown, because of his outspoken-ness. I recall a BBC article saying that Charles wouldn't act like that when/if he's crowned, but I'm rather reserved about that concept.
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    I'm changing the subject.

    Does anybody else find it ironic that while America spends hundreds of billions of dollars overseas in this vain attempt to determine the fate of these foreign nations, and hundreds of millions of dollars helping illegal immigrants, we are told that we can't afford to take care of our own national needs at home?

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