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    Am now glad I didnt cancel my am order.
    Cause I hadn't had the first book a week and the cover has already fallen off.
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    Just received my copy. Read a few chapters already and am enjoying it.

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    The book depository cancelled my order for this the other day because they ran out of stock! I almost cried. I have been keen to read this since September.

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    Just order direct from Fandy. I'm about another 100 from finishing this. It's been a great read so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite Anubis Guard View Post
    Just order direct from Fandy. I'm about another 100 from finishing this. It's been a great read so far.
    yeah, i'm about the same page ... it's a brilliant read! the best/most grown up SGA novel yet ... if there's ever a series 6, i hope jo graham writes it! (buy it todd fans - he's treated as a main cast member in this!)


    EDIT : just finished 'homecoming' ... this book/series truly feels like season 6 ... as a huge todd fan i was originally worried how he would be developed, but the characterization is perfect - as is, with all the regulars. it's fantastic to finally learn more about them (with no reset button) all set against an authentic, threatening and building situation! the only bad thing being ... we have to wait until february for next installment!
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    I too just finished Homecoming. Just in time for Christmas where I had another 2 Atlantis novels waiting for me. The novel was pretty long and it managed to squeeze quite a lot in. There's a lot of setup in there, which is certainly needed to get Legacy moving along for the future novels.

    I'm looking forward to hopefully getting some drastic changes. I want to see someone die and I want to see them use this lack of reset button. I eagerly awaiting The Lost.

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    Hi all,

    Stargate Atlantis - Homecoming

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1...ef=oss_product

    I just bought this book of Amazon. It came up on my recommendations, which until recently had been full of only Star Trek Books. I went onto buy Star Trek Tyhon Pact Book 1, and ended up buying this as well.

    I would like to thanks those on the Gateworld Podcast who have discussed these Fandemonium Books, as it stood out for me when i saw that publisher as being something recommended at some point in the podcast. I believe this is correct? I'm not sure who or when, but it rang a bell with me anyway.

    With the end of SGU, and apparently no future for an Atlantis Movie, I'm happy that the adventures of McKay and Sheppard can continue in this form.

    I hope that there can be as good a future for Stargate in this form as there has been for Star Trek and Star Wars. Indeed, i believe that the best of Trek and Wars has coming in the written form.

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    http://www.whona.com/mm5/merchant.mv..._Code=stargate
    This site has some copies of the book for sale, was looking for ebooks and this popped up on google, not really interested in buying the book so don't care if they run out any time soon. Have not ordered from them before so buyer beware.

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    I'm not sure I got as much out of this book as everyone else did. Don't get me wrong, the parts of this book that are mission based were just pure good, totally awesome SGA, but there were some glaring character issues that I came across that just jolted me out of reading the book for a moment. I'd have to regroup and go back in. At about page 89, the character discrepancies got to be so great that I had to tell myself just think of this book like a STAR TREK Myriad Universes "what if" sort of a thing just to finish it. I was glad that Melissa made an apology for such problems in the author's note at the end though. But still...I'm not sure I hold out much hope for The Lost coming out soon. The Sheppard-Teyla-Torren thing and Teyla all of a sudden basically abandoning her people and son...I don't know. That's all I can really say, I just don't know.

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    This started out as a comment on the post immediately above mine, but grew to become a long, rambling... thing... about my opinion on this novel and hopes for the future of the "Legacy" series. Spoilered due to length, but I hope you will read it anyway.

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    Actually, one of my favourite things about the novel was how the relationships between Sheppard-Teyla-Kanaan developed. From the pilot and throughout the series, I've felt there was something going on between Sheppard and Teyla, something more than the deep friendship bond the team as a whole has. There have been many little things, and I don't remember them all, because I'm not a "shipper" ( of any Stargate pairing ), but I do remember some.

    For example when Sheppard was unconscious during the search for Teyla when she was kidnapped, he dreamed about them having a romantic dinner, and when Teyla told Elizabeth in the Fran body her son's name, Elizabeth thought Sheppard was the father. Somehow I never felt the chemistry between Teyla and Kanaan in the same way. I realize this is just personal opinion and not definite canon, but I'm just trying to explain why the evolution of the Sheppard-Teyla-Kanaan relationship felt right to me, and was actually one of my favourite parts of the book. I thought it was cute, but also a bit sad, how she'd been holding back from showing her feelings for him because she knows about Earth humans' sexual/relationship taboos and is afraid he wouldn't respect her.

    Also, I don't see any ( sudden ) "abandonment" of her people on Teyla's part. Whatever is happening has been happening for a long time already. But then I don't remember the details of a book very well after only having read it once, so I may have glossed something over in my memory.

    However the discussion on the subject between Teyla and Rodney... I don't know. I think Rodney showed a little too much understanding of the complex, subtle relationship issues. In the beginning of the TV-series he was a rude, arrogant person with no social graces and very little understanding of relationships. During the course of the series he changed and learned, and especially during "Tao of Rodney". But I never got the impression he'd progressed that far.

    Not too sure about the "Guide" business either. ( He'll always be "Todd" to me..! ) And "Queen Death"? Really?! ( I'm sorry but I just think that name sounds... tacky... ) I always felt Wraith had a different concept of names and identities than humans, due to their telepathic nature. But I'm going to pretend those names are just a very inexact translation for the benefit of human readers. I hope we'll see more of Wraith culture in the future books. I'm not one of the "Wraith Worshippers" but I'd like to see more of them, more of what makes them alien not only physically, but how they function as a civilization, with each other, not just with their food.

    I liked the beginning of the novel, on Earth, the most. This is where we see how the situation the characters are in affects them and their plans for the future. Then they travel back to the Pegasus Galaxy and... well, we're back to the adventures. I liked seeing Sora back, I liked that character and what she went through and learned in the series. I hope to see her grow more in the books. I like how this is a longer series, which means there'll be room both for plenty of character/relationship development and a long, complex plot. I'm also eagerly anticipating the hopefully upcoming Rodney "whumping" in the next book.

    Even though it's been said there's no "reset button", somehow I still don't think they're going to kill any of the main characters. But if the movie is ever made, "Legacy" will be relegated to an AU anyway, so I guess they can take some chances they wouldn't take in canon. I thought for a moment that Jennifer was going to stay on Earth ( which I would've loved because I don't like to see "my" Rodney have a girlfriend! ).

    I wonder if what I read in a spoiler somewhere, ( possible spoiler for future books )
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    that there was one relationship where the two would be growing apart ( or something like that ), is Teyla and Kanaan ( or if they never had a "relationship" in the first place ), or if it's Rodney and Keller. There did seem to be some doubts from Rodney about their future together. Yeah I know, it could be wishful thinking on my part!


    Loved the kitten! A kitten on Atlantis! I would have loved to see that on-screen ( I'm a huge cat lover )! Carson better watch out!
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    A question/spoiler about the old and new seires.

    Spoiler:
    In homecoming. Todd/Guide mentions that he has/had a daughter named Snow. Was this ever mentioned in the previous series or just in homecoming?
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    I'm pretty sure it never was, before this novel.

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    i'm not overly keen on the actual names given to the wraith in the books (yes, todd will always/only be todd to me too!), but understand the necessity of naming them - how else would the writers distinguish who they were talking about in a book/series (hopefully) full of wraith characters if all they said was 'the male wraith', 'the commander' or 'the queen' etc every time - things might get a tad confusing very quickly!

    sheppard's names for them were great 'cos they were just so wrong!! i quite liked the 'did they/didn't they name themselves thing being a mystery ... bit like we don't know what the doctor's really called in doctor who or capt jack in torchwood. anyway, i loved the book and am really looking forward to the next installment.


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    just hope queen death doesn't turn out to be todd's daughter or similar as that's a tad obvious ... still if he has to choose her or atlantis ... and chooses atlantis, shepp might finally trust him!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mercy moon View Post
    i'm not overly keen on the actual names given to the wraith in the books (yes, todd will always/only be todd to me too!), but understand the necessity of naming them
    Yes, that's exactly how I felt, too. Then again, I'm in another fandom where characters have "English word names" ( Elfquest ), and right now I'm having huge problems coming up with names for my characters. So I understand how difficult it can be, coming up with a name that encompasses the central traits of the character, as they distinguish him/her from other characters of that species, and still is reasonably short and pretty in written form. Then of course there's the question if it's even possible to have unique names for each Wraith, or if there could possibly be more than one "Guide" ( like there are lots of "John Smith" ). Is "Guide" his full name, or is it actually "Guide of [insert hive of birth / current residence here]" or something? ( Somehow I don't think Wraith have social security numbers... ) Maybe not all Wraith have personal names, maybe they have to earn them through some sort of accomplishment? ( There is the term "hive mind" after all. ) How many Wraith are there, how many words in the Wraith language, is there a telepathic component to a name, like a certain feeling like humans have individual scents? ( Like I'm pretty sure that a big part of how my cat sees my identity is my scent. ) Interesting questions... probably already explored in Wraith-centric fanfiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt.UrsulaKenmore View Post
    I'm not sure I got as much out of this book as everyone else did. Don't get me wrong, the parts of this book that are mission based were just pure good, totally awesome SGA, but there were some glaring character issues that I came across that just jolted me out of reading the book for a moment. I'd have to regroup and go back in. At about page 89, the character discrepancies got to be so great that I had to tell myself just think of this book like a STAR TREK Myriad Universes "what if" sort of a thing just to finish it. I was glad that Melissa made an apology for such problems in the author's note at the end though. But still...I'm not sure I hold out much hope for The Lost coming out soon. The Sheppard-Teyla-Torren thing and Teyla all of a sudden basically abandoning her people and son...I don't know. That's all I can really say, I just don't know.
    *Goes to check out page 89 and note at end of the book.* I'll be back to comment on that later.

    However, I will say this: In EATG, Torren and Kanaan were left on New Athos for their protection - so it makes sense that she didn't bring them into a war with her. How many warriors/military people does anyone know of that take their infant children into war with them??? Just sayin'...

    Again, like Arnold, I'll be back...

    UPDATE:

    Okay, I read page 89 (I still have yet to read the book, btw), and the flying thing was a little odd. Melissa wrote what I'd call a fairly standard disclaimer for someone new to the Stargate franchise, Atlantis particularly, but she said she got a lot of help and feedback from "early readers." Plus Jo isn't new to Stargate, and so I think that the book might be something I'll enjoy in spite of a few little things here and there. I'll see.
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    Amazon.de seems to have finally received their shipment. They sent my order out yesterday (I'd pre-ordered it in november...).
    Can't wait to finally read it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercy moon View Post

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    just hope queen death doesn't turn out to be todd's daughter or similar as that's a tad obvious ... still if he has to choose her or atlantis ... and chooses atlantis, shepp might finally trust him!
    The only reason I could see Todd doing that is if Death's plan turns out to be really stupid and will destroy all the humans in the galaxy.
    Bit of a oops on the wraiths part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Flyattractor View Post
    yay. Finallly got my copy of homecoming.
    2 chapters in and I must say.. Its as good a read as the show was to watch.

    They managed to capture the humor most excellently.
    Agreed! I am a proud Wraith Worshipper and, although the book is 98% focused on the humans, I still found the human parts also made my jaw drop with well-thought details like how Zelenka's birthplace impacted his views and how Teyla felt the Tau'ri might view her native culture. I also found the Todd parts to be very well-fitting for what was established about his character in the show, especially in regards to wasteful practices.


    Quote Originally Posted by Elite Anubis Guard View Post
    I'm looking forward to hopefully getting some drastic changes. I want to see someone die and I want to see them use this lack of reset button.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Flyattractor View Post
    A question/spoiler about the old and new seires.

    Spoiler:
    In homecoming. Todd/Guide mentions that he has/had a daughter named Snow. Was this ever mentioned in the previous series or just in homecoming?
    Spoiler:
    Only in Homecoming - Snow was his consort and Queen; their daughter's name was not given.


    Quote Originally Posted by mercy moon View Post
    i'm not overly keen on the actual names given to the wraith in the books (yes, todd will always/only be todd to me too!), but understand the necessity of naming them - how else would the writers distinguish who they were talking about in a book/series (hopefully) full of wraith characters if all they said was 'the male wraith', 'the commander' or 'the queen' etc every time - things might get a tad confusing very quickly!

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    just hope queen death doesn't turn out to be todd's daughter or similar as that's a tad obvious ... still if he has to choose her or atlantis ... and chooses atlantis, shepp might finally trust him!

    I actually don't mind the names so much and think Guide lives up to his name for his people. Going back far enough, most names have meanings derived from words in other languages. Root names and meanings can be found for SGA names like John, Elizabeth, Richard, and Radek.

    There is also still the possibility that the Wraith names might be different in the Wraith language with approximations being as close as possible to writing them in Tau'ri print.

    Spoiler:
    I got the impression QD was born long after Guide's daughter was born and she also has a different hair color (scarlet vs. black, although it could have been changed naturally or artificially). I hope QD isn't his daughter (or grand-daughter for that matter) after she was throwing him hints that she has no consort and John was detecting some attraction from Guide for QD!


    My prediction:
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    Jennifer will find a viable solution to Wraith feeding needs. The writers seem to be building a case for it by emphasizing how tragic the need for such a solution is on both sides, building tension in the story that needs to be resolved. Also, Jennifer charging herself with this task could be foreshadowing.
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    See...

    However, I will say this: In EATG, Torren and Kanaan were left on New Athos for their protection - so it makes sense that she didn't bring them into a war with her. How many warriors/military people does anyone know of that take their infant children into war with them??? Just sayin'...

    That's what I'm kinda talking about. Torren never went to Earth with Teyla so how could he have possibly ended up on Earth with her when they could dial back? And if they could dial back why would Kanaan send just Torren through and not go with him too? It's such a little thing and yet such a big thing in terms of character that it seemed odd to me that that would be one of the authors discrepancies.

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    [QUOTE=mercy moon;12250672]i'm not overly keen on the actual names given to the wraith in the books (yes, todd will always/only be todd to me too!), but understand the necessity of naming them - how else would the writers distinguish who they were talking about in a book/series (hopefully) full of wraith characters if all they said was 'the male wraith', 'the commander' or 'the queen' etc every time - things might get a tad confusing very quickly!

    Me too. They just sounded kind of...well, lame.

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