So was TJs baby....

[The Swarm]

I dont think it was stated anywere that the Ancients never belived in a higher power....they were just not religious fanatics like the Ori.

[Nth Chevron]

These problems we have in linking from what happened in 'Visitation' and in 'Faith,' still leads me to conclude that these werent the real people that stayed, and the story they gave us wasnt real.

They could have been sent to see how our missions going, or to see how we would respond if they all came back to Destiny. Although i have no clue as to why they all died, maybe something to do with remember what happened down there as was previously mentioned.

Two theories currently standing are, they're all dead, Carmen died and never went to Eden, we got a shiny new shuttle for almost no reason.

Or

The people who turned up arent the Eden'ers, it was all a test/crock/experiment to see how we fared, they are alive and well on Eden , with Carmen, and the aliens returned and either saved them or are studying them via the Obelisk.

N.C

[Puddle-Jumper]

I think the baby died, but the ship tried to make her feel better by letting her know the baby was in a better place.

Thats the impression I got from the episode anyway, I was really hopeful that her baby would be okay, though I freakin loved this episode and how things played out for the peeps that stayed behind... its possible TJ's baby still might be alive, like TJ did want to stay on the planet maybe the aliens will return it to her at some point....

[Nth Chevron]

How about the 'Faith' aliens kept Carmen to accelerate her growth for use as an emissary between Faithies and Destiny crew.

A benevolent Orici in the making?

N.C

[smart]

I think that it did not happen. Although the members who returned were not able to fly retrieved the memories of their previous lives, the baby would have likely returned through rebirth if it had in-fact been transported to the planet and killed.

It is could be that the ship planted the vision in TJ as a way of her gaining the strength needed to cope in her position as medic.

It is also possible that these greater beings, are responsible for life after death, received the baby's soul, but out of mercy to TJ, gave her this sense of hope , which she needed , initially ,.

[garhkal]

But if they did have the power over the soul, why then, did they not give souls back to the bodies of the edenites..

[Ekras]

They threw it out an airlock

[pipi]

All this soul talking business really depends on whether you believe in it or not from a religious perspective.

Even though I may believe in death and rebirth on Earth, it'll probably stay a mystery as to what happens if one dies off world.

[Giantevilhead]

The crew wonders why the meat loaf was especially tasty that night.

[Shai Hulud]

The crew wonders why the meat loaf was especially tasty that night.

I said at the time that Becker had appropriated Carmen for his cooking. For the Destinites to destroy a valuable source of protein by airlocking corpses is wasteful in the extreme!

[pipi]

I said at the time that Becker had appropriated Carmen for his cooking. For the Destinites to destroy a valuable source of protein by airlocking corpses is wasteful in the extreme!

If you really want to be gross, the scientists should be able to extract 90% of body as water.

[tinerin]

I said at the time that Becker had appropriated Carmen for his cooking. For the Destinites to destroy a valuable source of protein by airlocking corpses is wasteful in the extreme!

That reminded me of an episode of Criminal Minds where this cannibal / serial killer was serving his victims to unsuspecting customers buying his chili and even volunteered his chili containing pieces of a girl to feed a search party looking for that same girl.

[tomstone]

That reminded me of an episode of Criminal Minds where this cannibal / serial killer was serving his victims to unsuspecting customers buying his chili and even volunteered his chili containing pieces of a girl to feed a search party looking for that same girl.

Okay, that is disgusting. Awesome, I need to see it!

I think TJ´s Baby is dead for good. If the Aliens had anything to do with the Baby they could have put it with them on board.

[Giantevilhead]

Mmmm, this is so soft and tender, is this veal? Where did you guys get veal?

[Eternal Density]

Where in the universe is Carmen Johansen?