Well now we know for sure how comm-stone death works

[SaberBlade]

Well he walked into the room with her alive, walked out and she was dead, then taunted Rush about it. I'm sure it's safe to say that Simeon did kill her.

If the stone connection can be break just entering the worm hole , then what was that SGA's episode about ?

Well there is a huge difference in the devices being used. In SGA they used an original Ancient device, just like in SG1, while in SGU it's a DIY version worked up (presumably) at Area 51. Destiny's comm stones stop working for a split second when it comes to changing location quickly, while that didn't seem to bother the proper Ancient versions as we saw when Daniel and Vala went from Ver Eger to Celestis with a Prior. So taking the full version through a wormhole probably isn't a big thing.

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I am glad they kept the consistency for that when one dies, the other dies. Vala was burnt alive, her body died on Earth. Dr. Perry was murdered on Destiny, so her body died back on Earth. Telford doesn't count because the oxygen was removed from the room, so he'd have passed out first before he actually died.

[pipi]

Dead is dead. RIP.

[wolverine_nl]

RIP, we now know for a 100% that killing 1 kills both

[garhkal]

Wait, they're both dead? Alas, I missed that part of the discussion and have to wait to see it again (forgot to record, darn). So if Gin's body is dead, that would mean Ginn is stuck in earth in Mandy's body, or ??? Hmm, both dead. Did they confirm that by stoning back to earth?

I think it was James who stoned to earth right after they found Ginn, then came running into the room where TJ, Greer, Scott, Eli, young and rush were, to tell them perry was dead as well..

at one point early on someone runs to the stone room, grabs a stone, and transfers... A little later you can hear someone on the radio excailm that amanda is confirmed dead.

I thought she was there personally..

Well there is a huge difference in the devices being used. In SGA they used an original Ancient device, just like in SG1, while in SGU it's a DIY version worked up (presumably) at Area 51. Destiny's comm stones stop working for a split second when it comes to changing location quickly, while that didn't seem to bother the proper Ancient versions as we saw when Daniel and Vala went from Ver Eger to Celestis with a Prior. So taking the full version through a wormhole probably isn't a big thing.

Plus in SGA, the stoning was in the same area to the same area, (well galaxy) so maybe when that localized, it will keep the connection. Also the SGA one was stone in base, to stone NOT in base (or on device).. So maybe device to device stoning does shift back to control when devices come close to one another...

[Aewon]

RIP, we now know for a 100% that killing 1 kills both

We've known that since "Avalon", Part 2.

[prion]

I think it was James who stoned to earth right after they found Ginn, then came running into the room where TJ, Greer, Scott, Eli, young and rush were, to tell them perry was dead as well..

Thanks. I have yet to see an episode of SGu this season without being interrupted. Hoping this one comes up on my cable rewind tonight so I can review and see that part. but wow, that sucks. So if someone 'stones' back to Earth, has a car accident and dies, the person on the Destiny will croak as well. Bummer.

[garhkal]

What's interrupting you?

[Gollumpus]

Likely going to have an episode where:

Spoiler:

Ginn and Perry's personalities are found still in the pattern buffer, or some such sci-fi way of doing things.

regards,
G.

[smart]

This could have been concluded in Subversion, where Young ventilates the air in Telford's confined quaters in Destiny [Telford was in Rush's body] and seen how this greatly affected both bodies.

[garhkal]

Likely going to have an episode where:

Spoiler:

Ginn and Perry's personalities are found still in the pattern buffer, or some such sci-fi way of doing things.

regards,
G.

Since it seems to be an instantaneous transmission from stone to stone, there is no buffer to be stored in.

[senilegreen]

Ok then, here is a question:

When the stones were introduced on SG-1, Vala and Daniel were sent to another galaxy. While there, was not the body in which Vala "inhabited" burnt in the oil pit? Yes, the Ori rep did bring her back to life, but for a while she was dead.

However, back on Earth Vala did not die in the flesh, though apparently there were symptoms of stress that could be monitored medically.

Why then can we presume that the Earth-based scientist truly died when the LA women's body was killed?

[Gollumpus]

Since it seems to be an instantaneous transmission from stone to stone, there is no buffer to be stored in.

Oh, when has a sci-fi writer ever allowed a buffer (or a lack of one) to come between him/her and a "good" story?

regards,
G.

[morbosfist]

Ok then, here is a question:

When the stones were introduced on SG-1, Vala and Daniel were sent to another galaxy. While there, was not the body in which Vala "inhabited" burnt in the oil pit? Yes, the Ori rep did bring her back to life, but for a while she was dead.

However, back on Earth Vala did not die in the flesh, though apparently there were symptoms of stress that could be monitored medically.

Why then can we presume that the Earth-based scientist truly died when the LA women's body was killed?

Aside from the that they outright told us she was dead, Vala's body did die. You should watch the episode again.

[garhkal]

Ok then, here is a question:

When the stones were introduced on SG-1, Vala and Daniel were sent to another galaxy. While there, was not the body in which Vala "inhabited" burnt in the oil pit? Yes, the Ori rep did bring her back to life, but for a while she was dead.

However, back on Earth Vala did not die in the flesh, though apparently there were symptoms of stress that could be monitored medically.

Why then can we presume that the Earth-based scientist truly died when the LA women's body was killed?

rewatch. She flatlined and was presumed dead.

[KlaxxonBlue]

After all the discussion last week about the possibility of Mandy surviving or Ginn ending up in the wrong body or other crazy theories (the crazier ones being mine of course ) it turns out that they simply and plainly both died.

Wait? There was a doubt? Anyone one see SG1: Avalon Part 2? Did anyone see what happened there? Then again, I guess the writers inconsistency in plots devices is what is leading to the confusion.

Klaxxon