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    Default Well now we know for sure how comm-stone death works

    After all the discussion last week about the possibility of Mandy surviving or Ginn ending up in the wrong body or other crazy theories (the crazier ones being mine of course ) it turns out that they simply and plainly both died.
    Yes, I was wrong on the Internet!

    It was kinda mean that they gave us a bit of hope that Mandy may have lived, but at least they got dashing that hope over with quickly.

    May Mandy and Ginn rest in peace...
    or even better, appear in hallucinations next time Eli or Rush are alone on the bridge
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    Default Re: Well now we know for sure how comm-stone death works

    Wait, they're both dead? Alas, I missed that part of the discussion and have to wait to see it again (forgot to record, darn). So if Gin's body is dead, that would mean Ginn is stuck in earth in Mandy's body, or ??? Hmm, both dead. Did they confirm that by stoning back to earth?

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    Default Re: Well now we know for sure how comm-stone death works

    I'm sure this will help McKay's fear of using the stones.

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    Default Re: Well now we know for sure how comm-stone death works

    at one point early on someone runs to the stone room, grabs a stone, and transfers... A little later you can hear someone on the radio excailm that amanda is confirmed dead.

    I was shocked to say the least.

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    Default Re: Well now we know for sure how comm-stone death works

    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Density View Post
    After all the discussion last week about the possibility of Mandy surviving or Ginn ending up in the wrong body or other crazy theories (the crazier ones being mine of course ) it turns out that they simply and plainly both died.
    Yes, I was wrong on the Internet!

    It was kinda mean that they gave us a bit of hope that Mandy may have lived, but at least they got dashing that hope over with quickly.

    May Mandy and Ginn rest in peace...
    or even better, appear in hallucinations next time Eli or Rush are alone on the bridge

    I think I read in a post on another thread that one of TPTB said not to assume that that would be the last of them in the show or something?

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    Default Re: Well now we know for sure how comm-stone death works

    Quote Originally Posted by cheezegr8r View Post
    at one point early on someone runs to the stone room, grabs a stone, and transfers... A little later you can hear someone on the radio excailm that amanda is confirmed dead.

    I was shocked to say the least.
    It was Lt. James and yes, both died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheezegr8r View Post
    at one point early on someone runs to the stone room, grabs a stone, and transfers... A little later you can hear someone on the radio excailm that amanda is confirmed dead.

    I was shocked to say the least.

    When the stone was first use by Daniel and Vala, when Vala was burn to death by the Ori worshipper , her body in Milkyway die as well.
    But when the a Prior heal the badly burned body of Vala's switch body , her body in Milyway was revive as well.

    Unless a Prior or some advance being with healing power is near the dead Amanda (in Ginn's body),I expected both to die.But if Destiny had jump into FTL drive a second before or after Amanda's death , the interference of jumping in or out and temporary switch back could save Amanda on Earth.( we saw how Teford was swithch back to his body while Young was having sex with his wife)

    But i admit the rules of Stone communication was inconsistent , like When Rush question Young not shuting down the life when the LA soldier reach Destiny's gate room.And Young's decicion was to save Teford not Rush becuause the moment Rush in Telford's body went into a worm hole , the stone connection get disconnect.

    But in SGA episode when SGA doctor got switch with a criminal about to be execute, the SGA team brought the doctor body with a criminal's mind to that planet using stargate and fire at the stone device just to break the conenction in time.

    If the stone connection can be break just entering the worm hole , then what was that SGA's episode about ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckwongau View Post
    When the stone was first use by Daniel and Vala, when Vala was burn to death by the Ori worshipper , her body in Milkyway die as well.
    But when the a Prior heal the badly burned body of Vala's switch body , her body in Milyway was revive as well.

    Unless a Prior or some advance being with healing power is near the dead Amanda (in Ginn's body),I expected both to die.But if Destiny had jump into FTL drive a second before or after Amanda's death , the interference of jumping in or out and temporary switch back could save Amanda on Earth.( we saw how Teford was swithch back to his body while Young was having sex with his wife)

    But i admit the rules of Stone communication was inconsistent , like When Rush question Young not shuting down the life when the LA soldier reach Destiny's gate room.And Young's decicion was to save Teford not Rush becuause the moment Rush in Telford's body went into a worm hole , the stone connection get disconnect.

    But in SGA episode when SGA doctor got switch with a criminal about to be execute, the SGA team brought the doctor body with a criminal's mind to that planet using stargate and fire at the stone device just to break the conenction in time.

    If the stone connection can be break just entering the worm hole , then what was that SGA's episode about ?
    Good point, but maybe it's something related to the higher power use of a 9 chevron wormhole. Yeah, it's cheap, but it's something.

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    What I want to know is when Young was killing Telford Rush felt the effects so why wouldn't they just cutt the connection on Ginn/Perry once Ginn started to feel the effects on Earth. She had no family and they definitely wouldn't let her leave the SGC so woudn't she'd be within seconds of being able to have the connection severed?

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    Default Re: Well now we know for sure how comm-stone death works

    Quote Originally Posted by GateroomGuard View Post
    What I want to know is when Young was killing Telford Rush felt the effects so why wouldn't they just cutt the connection on Ginn/Perry once Ginn started to feel the effects on Earth. She had no family and they definitely wouldn't let her leave the SGC so woudn't she'd be within seconds of being able to have the connection severed?
    Unless Simeon killed her with a neck snap, in which case Perry would be dead before anyone realized it might be the other end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbosfist View Post
    Unless Simeon killed her with a neck snap, in which case Perry would be dead before anyone realized it might be the other end.
    So we never saw Simeon kill her? I guess if he did something like that it would make sense then. From what I heard from the end of last week I thought he was going to stab her with a improvised knife or something, and I'm pretty sure that would have given Earth enough time to sever the connection.

    This is what I get for only having Hulu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GateroomGuard View Post
    So we never saw Simeon kill her? I guess if he did something like that it would make sense then. From what I heard from the end of last week I thought he was going to stab her with a improvised knife or something, and I'm pretty sure that would have given Earth enough time to sever the connection.

    This is what I get for only having Hulu.
    Don't blame Hulu, it's Syfy holding them back. Anyway, yes, we don't see him kill her, and there's no blood so he didn't stab or shoot her.

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    Default Re: Well now we know for sure how comm-stone death works

    Quote Originally Posted by morbosfist View Post
    Don't blame Hulu, it's Syfy holding them back. Anyway, yes, we don't see him kill her, and there's no blood so he didn't stab or shoot her.
    I don't blame Hulu, its been a good friend to me. I've got HuluPlus anyways.

    So we never saw Simeon kill her, did Simeon ever admit to killing her? I mean any chance there was something more going on?

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    Default Re: Well now we know for sure how comm-stone death works

    Quote Originally Posted by GateroomGuard View Post
    I don't blame Hulu, its been a good friend to me. I've got HuluPlus anyways.

    So we never saw Simeon kill her, did Simeon ever admit to killing her? I mean any chance there was something more going on?
    He cops to it, so he did do it, we just don't see him do it.

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    Default Re: Well now we know for sure how comm-stone death works

    yes we do but why did we have to lose two awesome characters to find out :*(

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    Default Re: Well now we know for sure how comm-stone death works

    Well he walked into the room with her alive, walked out and she was dead, then taunted Rush about it. I'm sure it's safe to say that Simeon did kill her.

    If the stone connection can be break just entering the worm hole , then what was that SGA's episode about ?
    Well there is a huge difference in the devices being used. In SGA they used an original Ancient device, just like in SG1, while in SGU it's a DIY version worked up (presumably) at Area 51. Destiny's comm stones stop working for a split second when it comes to changing location quickly, while that didn't seem to bother the proper Ancient versions as we saw when Daniel and Vala went from Ver Eger to Celestis with a Prior. So taking the full version through a wormhole probably isn't a big thing.

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    I am glad they kept the consistency for that when one dies, the other dies. Vala was burnt alive, her body died on Earth. Dr. Perry was murdered on Destiny, so her body died back on Earth. Telford doesn't count because the oxygen was removed from the room, so he'd have passed out first before he actually died.



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    Dead is dead. RIP.

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    RIP, we now know for a 100% that killing 1 kills both

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    Quote Originally Posted by prion View Post
    Wait, they're both dead? Alas, I missed that part of the discussion and have to wait to see it again (forgot to record, darn). So if Gin's body is dead, that would mean Ginn is stuck in earth in Mandy's body, or ??? Hmm, both dead. Did they confirm that by stoning back to earth?
    I think it was James who stoned to earth right after they found Ginn, then came running into the room where TJ, Greer, Scott, Eli, young and rush were, to tell them perry was dead as well..

    at one point early on someone runs to the stone room, grabs a stone, and transfers... A little later you can hear someone on the radio excailm that amanda is confirmed dead.
    I thought she was there personally..

    Well there is a huge difference in the devices being used. In SGA they used an original Ancient device, just like in SG1, while in SGU it's a DIY version worked up (presumably) at Area 51. Destiny's comm stones stop working for a split second when it comes to changing location quickly, while that didn't seem to bother the proper Ancient versions as we saw when Daniel and Vala went from Ver Eger to Celestis with a Prior. So taking the full version through a wormhole probably isn't a big thing.
    Plus in SGA, the stoning was in the same area to the same area, (well galaxy) so maybe when that localized, it will keep the connection. Also the SGA one was stone in base, to stone NOT in base (or on device).. So maybe device to device stoning does shift back to control when devices come close to one another...

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    RIP, we now know for a 100% that killing 1 kills both
    We've known that since "Avalon", Part 2.

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