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    Simeon's Guard - The most inept guard ever!

    I mean seriously! I can believe that most of the LA members have had their security precautions lightened but Simeon should be the exception, given how he has acted until now and how much Greer (de facto head of security) feels about him.

    Yet his guard doesn't stop him from threatening a woman in the corridor, and then lets him walk around the ship unescorted!

    What the hell man!

    OK rant over.
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    I think his disappearance will be better explained in Malice... Just a hunch.

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      #3
      Perhaps the guard is an LA spy - that would be a nice twist.

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        #4
        Originally posted by bobsuncorp View Post
        I mean seriously! I can believe that most of the LA members have had their security precautions lightened but Simeon should be the exception, given how he has acted until now and how much Greer (de facto head of security) feels about him.

        Yet his guard doesn't stop him from threatening a woman in the corridor, and then lets him walk around the ship unescorted!

        What the hell man!

        OK rant over.
        The hallway scene was really nothing more than another opportunity for Greer to butt heads with Simeon.

        With regard to the LA, we aren't fully aware of the nature of the guards orders. Are they to merely keep them under observation? What are their orders with respect to the LA interacting with the Earth crew? Were it an Earth person being threatened I suspect he would have been more involved. But what are their orders with regard to LA interacting with other LA? The guard (assuming he was not informed of her presence) would see Ginn as a member of the LA, not as Amanda Perry. In a position like which he found himself, that guard could see it as there's "two of them and one of me. Getting close is not a good idea." What we should have seen was him calling for back-up, which would have explained Greer's sudden appearance.

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          #5
          I lol'd That's my thoughts exactly. If he is considered so dangerous then why the hell is he allowed to walk around the ship without an escort?
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            #6
            For the love of all that is holy. Fandom, please do not tell me you all think Simeon was walking around unguarded for NO REASON. Jesus, the dude was under guard. And then he wasn't. Gee, why is the first thought in my mind: "Maybe he killed the guard" instead of "Lol. Who're the idiots who let this guy loose around the ship without an escort lolz!111!one".

            Seriously? I've been seeing this crap since Greater Good aired, and I just... come on. Even if I hated SGU, I would think that the lack of guard is foreshadowing or implying something instead of just... Come on. Really, fandom? I've heard of people complaining that the show dumbs things down or whatever, but I'm starting to see why! Jeez, here's the deal: Maybe, oh maybe, things might be explained better in Malice. Seriously, I will bet my keyboard (Very shiny keyboard) on it happening... So instead of seriously making me re-evaluate the intelligence of this fandom on simple things, please for the love of all that is holy I don't know, wait, or think logically or just... Come on.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Gollumpus View Post
              The hallway scene was really nothing more than another opportunity for Greer to butt heads with Simeon.

              With regard to the LA, we aren't fully aware of the nature of the guards orders. Are they to merely keep them under observation? What are their orders with respect to the LA interacting with the Earth crew? Were it an Earth person being threatened I suspect he would have been more involved. But what are their orders with regard to LA interacting with other LA? The guard (assuming he was not informed of her presence) would see Ginn as a member of the LA, not as Amanda Perry. In a position like which he found himself, that guard could see it as there's "two of them and one of me. Getting close is not a good idea." What we should have seen was him calling for back-up, which would have explained Greer's sudden appearance.

              regards,
              G.
              yeah, we don't really know what the orders are there, regarding LA dealing with other LA and as creepy as I find Simeon, what he's done so far hasn't gone beyond words. Maybe not nice words, but just words. Even with TJ, she settled his hash pretty quickly. Don't get me wrong, I think the guy's dangerous, but would your average person see him as that dangerous? We're supposed to see him that way, aren't we?

              As for the guard, we don't yet know what might have happened there. Maybe he's inept. Maybe he's dead. There's really no way to know until the next episode.


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                #8
                Simeon's Guard - The most inept guard ever!
                Or probably the most corrupt or most dead one.

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                  #9
                  Common, don't give the poor guard a hard time. He was probably pretty excited about being a guard and using his guardliness on the destiny but then the written word of the script tells him he has to be an impotent guard.

                  One day just you wait, the scripts will be torn up and then we will see what he guards/redshirts/evil henchmen will do to the main cast and it won't be pretty.

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                    #10
                    You guys make it sound like Simeon is the first man to ever overpower his guards. It happens saddenly. Thier is no such thing as perfect protection
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jelgate View Post
                      You guys make it sound like Simeon is the first man to ever overpower his guards. It happens saddenly. Thier is no such thing as perfect protection
                      yes, exactly, and it's not like there's a huge amount of military to guard them in any case. They're stretched pretty thin.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by MattSilver 3k View Post
                        For the love of all that is holy. Fandom, please do not tell me you all think Simeon was walking around unguarded for NO REASON. Jesus, the dude was under guard. And then he wasn't. Gee, why is the first thought in my mind: "Maybe he killed the guard" instead of "Lol. Who're the idiots who let this guy loose around the ship without an escort lolz!111!one".
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                          #13
                          Why was he able to sneak into the quarters and kill her Perry? Isn't he supposed to have a guard on him at all times... like every other scene in the show?

                          And if he didn't have a guard on him because he was near or in the Lucian Alliance quarters... why did they have her there in the first place, since... you know... she's a civilian.
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                            #14
                            there's a ton of threads on this already but there's no way to know that Simeon didn't injure or even kill the guard. As for Ginn being a civilian, how do you reach that conclusion? She's a prisoner, no less than Simeon is, and while I can see the prisoners being guarded against other crew members, I don't see why they should be guarded against each other.
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                              #15
                              They probably thought they could handle him. After all, he was clearly intimidated by both Greer and TJ. But I guess he just waited for the right moment to show his true skills, and judging from the promo for "Malice", he is indeed very dangerous.
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