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    Was her trip to the planet spiritual or real?

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    Both? Who knows. The nebula proves damn sure it wasn't just a dream, though.

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    i think it was some sort of ascended being doing it on a spiritual lvl

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    It was real. The nebula at the end points to that
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    It wasnt a dream because of the nebula but it also wasnt real because her body was there the whole time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. Jeffer View Post
    It wasnt a dream because of the nebula but it also wasnt real because her body was there the whole time
    Iiiinteresting, isn't it.

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    well maybe she was in 2 places at the same time

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    Something from the S2 trailer makes me wonder -
    Spoiler:


    If they really do return - and it's not some AU, ATL, AR, dream - maybe that could confirm what exactly happened to TJ, and to the baby.

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    Given that the baby is dead id guess that she was tripping. Probably the result of a combination of the shock of being shot and some of those cool alien drugs they have concocted from venom / plants / other sources they have come across on their journey so far. The Dr's who 'stoned' in probably gave her an OD on the landsquid venom.

    As a devout atheist I enjoyed Stargate' s take on religion; the portrayal of advanced races taking advantage of primitives by exploiting their religious delusions. Im disappointed that the writers seem to be turning their back on this convention and 'deifying' technologically superior races with all this spiritual mumbo jumbo, it just seems a bit of a needless U-Turn.
    Bless the Maker and all His Water. Bless the coming and going of Him, May His passing cleanse the world. May He keep the world for his people.

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    FWIW how many similar looking nebula are there in a galaxy? Anyone care to hazard a guestimate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai Hulud View Post
    'deifying' technologically superior races with all this spiritual mumbo jumbo, it just seems a bit of a needless U-Turn.
    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Stargate always has had deeply spiritual advanced races, long before the concept of ascension (again spiritual) was ever mentioned we had the Nox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egle01 View Post
    Something from the S2 trailer makes me wonder -
    Spoiler:


    If they really do return - and it's not some AU, ATL, AR, dream - maybe that could confirm what exactly happened to TJ, and to the baby.
    those dont look like the destiny doors...
    An Axe age, A Sword age, Shields are sundered,
    A Wind age, A Wolf age, Ere the World falls,
    And no Man shall spare Another.

    Driving fast has never killed anyone. Suddenly coming to a halt, that has killed many, many people

    The Pope, an Irishman and an Italian are walking down a street, when one of them says "Hey look guys! A bar!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by james123182 View Post
    those dont look like the destiny doors...
    Spoiler:
    They're shuttle's.

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    oh
    An Axe age, A Sword age, Shields are sundered,
    A Wind age, A Wolf age, Ere the World falls,
    And no Man shall spare Another.

    Driving fast has never killed anyone. Suddenly coming to a halt, that has killed many, many people

    The Pope, an Irishman and an Italian are walking down a street, when one of them says "Hey look guys! A bar!"

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    Good thing, too.
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    If the next episode is any indication, they're fresh out of shuttles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbellosom View Post
    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Stargate always has had deeply spiritual advanced races, long before the concept of ascension (again spiritual) was ever mentioned we had the Nox.
    Magic = Spirituality? Paul Daniels for Pope!

    The Nox refused to interfere in Tau'ri affairs. The Ascended Ancients had a policy of non interference, those that break with that policy were outcast. The Ori take an active hand in human affairs and look how that turns out; a fanatical religious crusade. Traditionally in SG religion has been a means of control of an advanced species over a primitive one. I hope the writers don't veer away from this in SGU.
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    I think it could have been TJ's way of coping with losing the baby. Instead of admitting that the baby had died, her mind concocted that scenario where the baby is safe but she just can't see him. Much like an advanced case of denial or telling a child their favorite dog is now on a farm.

    Another possibility is that the planet that she left the baby on is heaven or limbo, which explains why the baby could stay but she had to go. The baby died and TJ lived, so she had to go back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai Hulud View Post
    Given that the baby is dead id guess that she was tripping. Probably the result of a combination of the shock of being shot and some of those cool alien drugs they have concocted from venom / plants / other sources they have come across on their journey so far. The Dr's who 'stoned' in probably gave her an OD on the landsquid venom.

    As a devout atheist I enjoyed Stargate' s take on religion; the portrayal of advanced races taking advantage of primitives by exploiting their religious delusions. Im disappointed that the writers seem to be turning their back on this convention and 'deifying' technologically superior races with all this spiritual mumbo jumbo, it just seems a bit of a needless U-Turn.
    I think you're jumping to conclusions. It's one character seeing an advanced alien and believing that it's something mystical, that's seems in keeping with what we've seen before in the franchise. It's not like they're being portrayed as magic, that's just Caine's interpretation, just like the Goa'uld or the Ancients were never magical, but the Jaffa assumed they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loheat View Post
    I think it could have been TJ's way of coping with losing the baby. Instead of admitting that the baby had died, her mind concocted that scenario where the baby is safe but she just can't see him. Much like an advanced case of denial or telling a child their favorite dog is now on a farm.

    Another possibility is that the planet that she left the baby on is heaven or limbo, which explains why the baby could stay but she had to go. The baby died and TJ lived, so she had to go back
    Very good post! Green for j0000! Alternatively perhaps it was a Planet Builder contacting her through her subconscious and utilising familiar figures and situations from her memory to be able to communicate in an understandable manner?
    Bless the Maker and all His Water. Bless the coming and going of Him, May His passing cleanse the world. May He keep the world for his people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai Hulud View Post
    Very good post! Green for j0000! Alternatively perhaps it was a Planet Builder contacting her through her subconscious and utilising familiar figures and situations from her memory to be able to communicate in an understandable manner?
    Seriously, did so many people really miss that F-ing ginormous nebula?

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