Hey guys. With Terminator Dark Fate to be released and my expectations as low as can be, I was curious how you would rank the terminator movies and why.
1) Terminator 2 Judgement Day
Iím pretty sure weíre all going to share the same top two. Let me put it this way. If you can make clearly CGI goo intimidating youíre doing something right. The T1000 felt like a slasher from a horror movie. When you saw the 1000, you crapped yourself. There characters were awesome. Sarah Connor was awesome. John Connor was awesome. The 800 was awesome. You felt from all of them. I loved that the 800 was learning human emotions and whatnot. You could feel it learning. And this made its sacrifice at the end all the better. The action was on point and held me the entire way. Seeing what Sarah was after being the terrified woman in the first movie was also awesome. And you felt not only for her but for the doctors containing her. If you had seen what Sarah saw, youíd behave the same way. And if you met a woman claiming what Sarah claim, youíd think she was nuts. It all the more tragic. Overall, classic.
2) Terminator 1
T2 may have done it better, but T1 did it first. While it didnít get it as awesome as T2, T1 gets all the same points right. The human elements are on point. Sarah Connor was the every man. It was so easy to put yourself in her shoes because she was essentially us but thrown into the crosshairs of a terminator. Kyle Reese was enjoyable. And the terminator was even more of a horror movie slasher than T2. Except, heís a slasher that uses guns. Most slashers get bested by things like doors or cars cuz they only have a machete or axe. This Arnold can shoot which is even better. And thereís something almost Lovecraftian about him. Sure Skynet isnít an unknowable entity but you get the feeling he is an agent for something greater and malevolent. And I love Sarahís transition from scared victim to warrior throughout the film. Overall, a slasher film done right.
3) Terminator Genysis
This is where Iím sure opinions will divide but I feel Genysis was severely underrated. From here on out, no films come close to recapturing the essence of the first two. But Genysis comes the closest. Though it seems to have a transition from horror to scifi action. You can see this in the terminators. They no longer feel like slashers in a horror movies. The 800 and 1000 which came off as monsters in the original two no longer carry the same intimidating presence. They feel like killer robots in a scifi romp. You can also see that in Sarah Connor. In T2 she felt like a grizzled survivor. She had grit. She had weight. Sarah here feels like a quippy one liner action hero. So the human element was the strongest element in the first two films. Genysis doesnít have the same level but it has some. Pops was very enjoyable. Sarah was pretty good. I loved the chemistry between them, especially pops showing affection in his own robotic way. Reese was forgettable. Passable but forgettable. He didnít detract from the film but had didnít add either. I like a lot of the ideas in the show. The T3000 is the most original terminator created after the first two and is really cool. (The Rev9 and TX feel like the writers simply slapped together the 800 and 1000). The malleability of the 1000 was its strength and its weakness. It could go anywhere but if you shot it with a grenade it would need a few seconds to pull itself back together. The 3000 could become as malleable as the 1000 at will or remain as sturdy as an endoskeleton model. John Connor becoming the bad guy was really cool (too bad the marketing SUCKED!!!!!!). Iíve heard some ppl claim that this was a betrayal of his character. I disagree. It wasnít like he willingly betrayed and abandoned his ideals (Iím looking at you Star Wars). He was clearly killed then rebuilt. He died and the enemy used his corpse for their gain Overall, fun movie.
4) Terminator Salvation
I wonít call Salvation bad. But I canít call it good. I can appreciate the effort but the execution failed. We finally get to see the war against the machines after three movies. So audiences kinda expected a war against the machines. What we got was a personal story. Which is fine. But they also failed in that aspect. If we hadnít seen John for three films we would never care about him. The only memorable person was Markus and even calling him memorable is stretching it. Markus didnít go through any sort of arc or story or anything. He didnít have anything interesting personality traits. He wasnít relatable. That last sacrifice scene was supposed to be touching but it didnít really have the same impact as the sacrifice in T2. In T2, the 800 started out as unfeeling, nothing but numbers with no concept of attachment or sacrifice. So when he does sacrifice himself, itís heartfelt as it had learned this. Markus behaved and thought as a human would at the beginning and he did the same at the end. Still, the post-apocalyptic landscape was cool. It was cool seeing all the new terminator models. I like how john didnít just conveniently become the resistance leader and had to work his way up. I like how the T800 was portrayed as an unstoppable juggernaut. Overall, had some good elements.
5) Terminator 3 Rise of the machines
I really donít have much to say about this one. Itís a blander rehash of the first two. I mean, Iím glad it ended with the actual end of the world and not Ďwe delayed judgement dayÖagainí. But this was just a pale imitation doing the same song and dance as the first two films. The TX was not intimidating and comes off as if the writers couldnít of a new terminator so they just slapped the 800 and 1000 together. It didnít even come off as a badass killer robot. I mean, I like the idea of a terminator killer, but it didnít have any feels to it at all. Characters werenít good either. Arnold was passable. John Connor was annoying. Kate Baxter was completely forgettable. Overall, I was bored. I was bored until the climax when the machine started killing everyone. Overall, didnít have anything except a few actions scenes at the end.
So thatís my list. What doers yours look like and why?