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    Reaching Destiny

    So we know Earth has Asgard intergalactic-hyperdrives, and those take around a minute or so to get from the Ida Galaxy to our own. But even if we didn't have those, it took the Daedalus a few weeks to cross the gap between Earth and Pegasus. And they are relatively close together (in astrophysics, at least).

    So looking at this:

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    I'd say it would take a ship with an Asgard IGH less than a week to travel that distance, and that's being generous. And the Daedalus a few months.

    So knowing this, Earth could easily reach the Destiny within a year or two, maybe three. The drives the Destiny uses are far inferior to a hyperdrive, so they could catch up to them.

    Now this is the part where I'm supposed to ask "Why don't they do it if they can?" But we all know that would do horrific things to the plot, and that's not what the writers want (or what the viewers want to see, for that matter)

    So the real question is, can they really reach the Destiny if they want to?
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    #2
    perhaps the Asgard are transwarping, that is how they get here fast, then they have to recharge so it takes them a while to get back

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      #3
      personally i like the 11th hour reprieves so i say lets launch the daedalus now and they can bail out the gang during the season 4 finale al'a The Siege. How badass would destiny be flanked by a 304? lol

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        #4
        Yes they could.
        They have the resources to search out and discover another Icarus type planet. Gating in supplies, needed professionals and tradespeople, etc. It's too bad Destiny can't dial Earth =/.
        As you put it, it they sent a 304 to Destiny it would take time. The problem of risking a 304 to head out to the outer Universe with no possible resupply once out there. All sorts of problems could come up along the, stranding the ship and crew. I love the idea of them popping out of nowhere out of nowhere in a later season, saving the day and then travel together. (omg it's not the Pegasus to our Galactica)
        The best solution is a ZedPM. It's like a cold shower in the morning, BAM SUPERCHARGE. The Daedalus was able to get to Pegasus Galaxy in four days using a ZedPM, opposed to 20. The best solution would obviously end the series. The ZedPM would have to be depleted, stranding the 304. Once again the Pegasus to our Galactica!

        This could all happen, however we mustn't forget that the SGA Movie is occuring during the expedition to Destiny. **** is going down in the Milky Way/Pegasus wherever.
        Last edited by dacooker; 15 September 2010, 06:56 PM.
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          #5
          Just one thing. Earth does NOT have the same Hyperdrive than the Asgards. The Technology principles may be the same but surely we cant math the Asgard hyperdrive speed.
          The Asgard took seconds to travel from one galaxy to another and we take weeks to travel between Milky Way and Pegasus. See my point.
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            #6
            Originally posted by Steelbox View Post
            Just one thing. Earth does NOT have the same Hyperdrive than the Asgards. The Technology principles may be the same but surely we cant math the Asgard hyperdrive speed.
            The Asgard took seconds to travel from one galaxy to another and we take weeks to travel between Milky Way and Pegasus. See my point.
            The best solution is a ZedPM. It's like a cold shower in the morning, BAM SUPERCHARGE. The Daedalus was able to get to Pegasus Galaxy in four days using a ZedPM, opposed to 20. The best solution would obviously end the series. The ZedPM would have to be depleted, stranding the 304. Once again the Pegasus to our Galactica!
            I pulled this quote from my post just above yours. We may currently not have the same speed as Asgurd engines, however it's been closely matched in the past. As for Asgurd technology. They left all their knowledge to us, and gave all their latest technology to the Odessey. This included as Asgurd core. This combined with the Ancient database in Atlantis, we could design and build hyperdrives even faster...IE WORMHOLE DRIVE!!!!
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              #7
              I think that the complexity of the calculations increases once with the distance , so it would be near impossible for a ship to go there , but how about a advanced HyperDrive
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                #8
                Originally posted by webxro View Post
                I think that the complexity of the calculations increases once with the distance , so it would be near impossible for a ship to go there , but how about a advanced HyperDrive
                Why do you say that? I don't follow your logic. Destiny got where Destiny is (duh) why can't another ship that's more advanced get there, too?
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                  #9
                  I was referring to Wormhole drive , and probably it would take some time for a 304 to go there
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by webxro View Post
                    I was referring to Wormhole drive , and probably it would take some time for a 304 to go there
                    Not if it were using a wormhole drive... That's the entire idea behind using a wormhole to transport a space ship. It's near-instantaneous.
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                      #11
                      The calculations for a wormhole increase in complexity over distance so it would be near impossible to get to the other side of the universe , also the power req are to huge ,and i was referring that a 304 would travel trow hyperspace a long time before reaching Destiny , since the only thing that has this magi-drive is Atlantis as we can't be sure how big it is or if it can be fit for a 304
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by webxro View Post
                        The calculations for a wormhole increase in complexity over distance so it would be near impossible to get to the other side of the universe , also the power req are to huge ,and i was referring that a 304 would travel trow hyperspace a long time before reaching Destiny , since the only thing that has this magi-drive is Atlantis as we can't be sure how big it is or if it can be fit for a 304
                        Nobody said the 304 had to make it to Destiny in one jump. The 304 could easily use the [wormhole] drive to get a good distance, Then use it again and again and again, in small jumps. A bit like they did when they were looking for Atlantis, after it left Lantea.
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                        —Alteran Woman

                        "It annoys me that the burden of proof is on us. It should be 'You came up with the idea, why do you believe it?' I could tell you I've got superpowers, but I can't go up to people saying 'Prove I can't fly' They'd say "What do you mean 'prove you can't fly?' Prove you can!"
                        —Ricky Gervais

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                          #13
                          Time to give this discussion a twist. You see, I don't believe a 304 is the best way to go. I think "The Tower" - Atlantis sister ship - is the best way to reach Destiny. Here is my wacky plan....

                          To begin with, I think it's safe to say that Atlantis' regular stardrive is faster then the Hyperdrive of a 304. But....Speed is the outcome of mass vs energy. Thus...if the mass is reduced, but the energy remains the same...speed increases.

                          Now, how much of the city's mass do you think the Command Tower is ? Ten percent, five ? So...how fast would Atlantis be if it was just the Stardrive and the Command Tower ? Of course, we can never modify Atlantis in that way. (Nor would we want to.) But....

                          we can extract the Command Tower/Stardrive from the Tower. It would probably take months - we wouldn't just have to extract the Tower, we'd also have to make repairs and make it airtight - and we'd have to relocate the natives. But if we can overcome the diplomatic obsticales, it could be done. Plug in three ZPMs, amp up the Structural Integrity Field and let's go.
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                            #14
                            All well and good... except the stardrive encompasses the full area of the ship. You couldn't remove the command tower and fly it. It doesn't have any engines. The engines are on the six piers. Moreover, the shield which protects Atlantis has ten emitters spread out over the city, and there's no telling just what buildings those were built into. The command tower might not even have one.

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                              #15
                              yes, seeing one or several 304s escorting destiny would be cool, but I hope this never happens

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