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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Quote Originally Posted by General Luka of Earth View Post
    who knows maybe 3 ZPM's wouldn't be enough but if SGC finds some of those Ancients thing that download entire knowledge of the Ancients in persons brain maybe that person could make something like Jack in Fifth Race (or something else like the original way to dial Destiny) and dial Destiny.
    There is zero reason to risk even one depleted zpm to dial Destiny. Those 80 people are simply not that important in the grand scheme of things.

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    I had a theory about stealing destiny from the ancients whene it was launched using some sort of time travel device.

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    the ideal thing to do would be to use langaria but the way they wrote it is that they think the planet will blow up. how would you steal it? you dont know how many ancients there were back then

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrismike View Post
    There is zero reason to risk even one depleted zpm to dial Destiny. Those 80 people are simply not that important in the grand scheme of things.
    This is one of the millions of reasons I liked SGU more than the other Stargate series. If it were SG-1, the SGC would have used an inordinate amount of resources to get a few people back (think 615 - Paradise Lost). I also didn't like that Atlantis was reconnected with Earth so quickly in the series. SGU sent them out there and you knew there was really no chance of them getting back. Sure, they'll tease you with the prospect, but we all knew. Ha ha.

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    i think maybe they couldnt use earth as a PoO from another galaxy, maybe they could dial when Atlantis went back to Milky Way

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Keep in mind that Earth is in a major conflict with the lucian alliance and has very thinly stretched resources, even if they had 3 fully functional ZPMs they would most certainly be in use on the ancient weapons platform or on Ships defending Earth.

    Yes, I'm sure they were planning on using Atlantis to contact destiny but as Rush alludes to commonly, they ascended before they had a chance to send a crew to Destiny; its unclear weather or not there was an exact time the Ancients planned on contacting Destiny.

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    If atlantis had three fully functioning ZPM's, why couldn't they land on the ancient outpost and combine the 3 zpm's with a fourth from the outpost?

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Quote Originally Posted by dr.chrismckay View Post
    If atlantis had three fully functioning ZPM's, why couldn't they land on the ancient outpost and combine the 3 zpm's with a fourth from the outpost?
    Atlantis was designed by the Ancients to work with 3 ZPMs max, in EATG the lantian team maxed out the amount of power the city's power grid could transfer, which is why they couldn't pull the city up from the atmosphere, maintain shields under heavy stress and fire anything more than a handful of drones at a time, the city simply can't handle more power running through it's systems than a small portion of each of the 3 ZPMs can provide.

    Basically the writers of Universe didn't entertain the idea of ZPMs being used to dial destiny or Atlantis for that matter.
    I think Rush even said in one episode that Destiny would be outside of the range for the Ancient's to dial back to the milky way or dial into Destiny, I forget which episode it was though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rise Of The Phoenix View Post
    Atlantis was designed by the Ancients to work with 3 ZPMs max, in EATG the lantian team maxed out the amount of power the city's power grid could transfer, which is why they couldn't pull the city up from the atmosphere, maintain shields under heavy stress and fire anything more than a handful of drones at a time, the city simply can't handle more power running through it's systems than a small portion of each of the 3 ZPMs can provide.


    Basically the writers of Universe didn't entertain the idea of ZPMs being used to dial destiny or Atlantis for that matter.
    I think Rush even said in one episode that Destiny would be outside of the range for the Ancient's to dial back to the milky way or dial into Destiny, I forget which episode it was though.

    This is not entirely accurate, in EATG, they had used a tremendous amount of power prior to the fight by using the wormhole drive. The city could handle that amount of power. In the episode mckay and mrs. miller, the ancients had in place a device which could potentially have created more power than that of the ZPM's. Rush himself would have probably lied because it would potentially have threatened his position as lead scientist.

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    There is one possibility. Using the ancient database and asgard components to build a power supply for the earth gate the same as that powers destiny. The power from the stars themselves. If they could harness that or double that (like when destiny and the seedship are combined) They could get to destiny safely, or if asgard and ancient knowledge can get earth to produce safe clean fusion energy that is similar too.

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Quote Originally Posted by dr.chrismckay View Post
    This is not entirely accurate, in EATG, they had used a tremendous amount of power prior to the fight by using the wormhole drive. The city could handle that amount of power. In the episode mckay and mrs. miller, the ancients had in place a device which could potentially have created more power than that of the ZPM's. Rush himself would have probably lied because it would potentially have threatened his position as lead scientist.
    They shut that project down, cause like with the space bridge in Mccay and ms miller, they couldn't control the exotic particles..
    Quote Originally Posted by LJGrindelwald View Post
    There is one possibility. Using the ancient database and asgard components to build a power supply for the earth gate the same as that powers destiny. The power from the stars themselves. If they could harness that or double that (like when destiny and the seedship are combined) They could get to destiny safely, or if asgard and ancient knowledge can get earth to produce safe clean fusion energy that is similar too.
    But they have not found anything IN the ancient database ON the Destiny though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJGrindelwald View Post
    There is one possibility. Using the ancient database and asgard components to build a power supply for the earth gate the same as that powers destiny. The power from the stars themselves. If they could harness that or double that (like when destiny and the seedship are combined) They could get to destiny safely, or if asgard and ancient knowledge can get earth to produce safe clean fusion energy that is similar too.
    I've always thought that if the series had continued, Earth would look into building it's own Destiny-style ship running at least partially on 'star power'. With the combined sources of the Asgard and Ancient databases plus what Rush and Eli could directly tell them about Destiny's power source after a few years of working with it, Earth should be able to figure out a working system to collect and use star power with a ship. Then it would just be a matter of collecting and storing enough energy to dial Destiny.

    Since it would be reasonable (given Destiny's age) to assume that Asgard and Atlantis-era Ancient shields are stronger than Destiny's, along with a variety of other tech that Earth now has access to and started to reproduce, with some study and experimentation it should be doable as long as they have the resources to build such a ship.

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    That's the kicker.. Do they have the resources to build one? Also how long will it take, remember they entered stasis for a hopeful 3 yr trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    That's the kicker.. Do they have the resources to build one? Also how long will it take, remember they entered stasis for a hopeful 3 yr trip.
    I think they would be able to get the resources (especially with the 3 year time jump); while Destiny is massive Earth would not need to build a ship nearly that size. My guess is that it be larger than a Daedalus class ship to have the storage capacity to collect enough star power for a Destiny dial, but not so massive that Earth couldn't pull it off.

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Hopefully Woolsey can find a diplomatic solution on Langaria to use as an icarus planet, and we can dial Destiny and supply it all we want. If the series ever gets renewed, that is....

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