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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Quote Originally Posted by RCOO View Post
    True... How did the ancients create ZPMs anyway?
    in TheSiege Part II I think it is Wier talking to Zalenka regarding the self destruct and Atlantis Database mentioned something about ZPM creation, however this never went any further than that brief comment. In terms of a lab on Atlantis its very possible as it has not been fully accessed, However with Atlantis on Earth at present I dont see why the cant go all out and really detail the place.

    Another Idea is that like the Anceint outpost the Dark Asgard were in control of there was no Stargate, However it was clear that the place was an Ancient research outpost. It is also possible that a ZPM created factory of sorts is in Pegasus however on a planet without a stargate.

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Daniel Jackson made ZPM in Season 10 for Odyssey with the parts the found on the ship. Same with O'Niell in "Fifth Race". I think it does not matter with what you do it, but that you know how to do it. And there has to be a room on Atlantis dedicated to that!

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Quote Originally Posted by comperius View Post
    Daniel Jackson made ZPM in Season 10 for Odyssey with the parts the found on the ship. Same with O'Niell in "Fifth Race". I think it does not matter with what you do it, but that you know how to do it. And there has to be a room on Atlantis dedicated to that!
    I don't remember either of them ever making a ZPM

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Quote Originally Posted by General Jumper One View Post
    I don't remember either of them ever making a ZPM
    I don't remember that either.
    Maybe he's thinking about the device O'Neill made in The Fifth Race so he could gate to Othalla to avoid death.
    But i've got no idea what daniel jackson supposedly did in for Odyssey...

    On a seperate note, if Earth ever manages to gate into Destiny, i stop watching. Atlantis became less cool when they could call in the cavalry when **** hit the fan.
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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    The device in The Fifth Race was a naquadah generator (using liquid naq from a staff weapon) and ran out of power/burned out after one use, NOT a ZPM.

    The only thing Daniel did was to convert the shield into a cloak, powered by the ZPM they already had.
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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike. View Post
    The device in The Fifth Race was a naquadah generator (using liquid naq from a staff weapon) and ran out of power/burned out after one use, NOT a ZPM.

    The only thing Daniel did was to convert the shield into a cloak, powered by the ZPM they already had.
    They got the ZPM from Atlantis when the Ancients returned on the tria with 3 ZPMs.

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    When the Asurans briefly took over Atlantis they brought ZPMs with them, there were 3, 1 remained on Atlantis, 1 was sent to the Ancient outpost in Antarctica and the other was put aboard the Odyssey.

    Daniel Jackson uses his knowledge or more precisley Merlins knowledge to use the ZPM to creat a cloak for the Odyssey


    Think alot of people need to watch over both shows again

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Quote Originally Posted by Col.Ads View Post
    When the Asurans briefly took over Atlantis they brought ZPMs with them, there were 3, 1 remained on Atlantis, 1 was sent to the Ancient outpost in Antarctica and the other was put aboard the Odyssey.

    Daniel Jackson uses his knowledge or more precisley Merlins knowledge to use the ZPM to creat a cloak for the Odyssey


    Think alot of people need to watch over both shows again
    ZPMs don't create cloaks.
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    I hated how SGA really became a race for the next ZPM as the series went on... tptb really should have done a full episode on ZPMs, like made up some reason for their being a lack of them, that the ancients could only create a set amount, due to exotic particles or some technoblabble explanation or at least gave us some reason for why the ancients didn't put a spare 1 or 2 in the ZPM room in Atlantis instead choosing to scatter them at random locations around the galaxy to be found by any and everyone..
    I dunno what to put in here now..

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    I agree. The series become too much ZPM-dependent.
    Everytime they had a freaking problem: "ZOMG... We don't have ZPM's!"
    And when finally they had 1 ZPM, they usually drained it in 3 episodes.

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    who knows maybe 3 ZPM's wouldn't be enough but if SGC finds some of those Ancients thing that download entire knowledge of the Ancients in persons brain maybe that person could make something like Jack in Fifth Race (or something else like the original way to dial Destiny) and dial Destiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Luka of Earth View Post
    who knows maybe 3 ZPM's wouldn't be enough but if SGC finds some of those Ancients thing that download entire knowledge of the Ancients in persons brain maybe that person could make something like Jack in Fifth Race (or something else like the original way to dial Destiny) and dial Destiny.
    That naquadah generator burnt out after one use. Of dialing Ida. There's no chance that it could be re-created to dial Destiny.
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    I think Luka meant that they could use the repository of knowledge to create a power source to dial destiny, as we saw jack did, not the same one though
    I dunno what to put in here now..

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Quote Originally Posted by Puddle-Jumper View Post
    I think Luka meant that they could use the repository of knowledge to create a power source to dial destiny, as we saw jack did, not the same one though
    exactly

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Any volunteers to go in the "head sucker"? Let's not forget the asgard aren't around anymore to cleanse the knowledge.

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Quote Originally Posted by RCOO View Post
    Any volunteers to go in the "head sucker"? Let's not forget the asgard aren't around anymore to cleanse the knowledge.
    yes that's right but now we have all knowledge of the Asgards

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    True. How long will it take to know how to revert the process?
    Plus, where would you find a head sucker?

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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Quote Originally Posted by General Luka of Earth View Post
    yes that's right but now we have all knowledge of the Asgards
    The Asgard Core is a sizeable amount of information. And even if you do manage to be able to replicate the Mind Cleanser-thingy, O'Neill survived because of plot shield. And they aren't exactly going to put one of their highest ranked military personnel of Off-World relations into a dangerous situation. And no one else could handle that knowledge, that we know of.
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    Default Re: Dialing Destiny from Atlantis?

    Yes, it's doubtful 3 fully charged ZPMs can connect to the Destiny with the sheer distances involved.

    But... I think I've found a way to dial Destiny

    Project Arcturus [from SGA:Trinity, season 2 episode 6].

    McKay mentioned at 50% efficiency it produces a power equivalent to TWELVE ZPMs. Assuming a linear progression, 100% efficiency means a power output equivalent to 24 ZPMs!

    I'm sure you'll agree that is definitely up there with Icarus base in terms of sheer energy output.

    McKay ended up destroying 5/6 of a solar system when he couldn't turn it off. Icarus base had an explosion on a similar magnitude.

    SGA:McKay and Mrs Miller (season 3, ep 8) builds on the perceived weaknesses of the Ancient's approach. In the end it causes unforeseen side effects but it is continuing along the line of the Ancient's experiments in ZPM creation/energy harnessing plot.

    Just throwing ideas up here guys. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgfan View Post
    Yes, it's doubtful 3 fully charged ZPMs can connect to the Destiny with the sheer distances involved.

    But... I think I've found a way to dial Destiny

    Project Arcturus [from SGA:Trinity, season 2 episode 6].

    McKay mentioned at 50% efficiency it produces a power equivalent to TWELVE ZPMs. Assuming a linear progression, 100% efficiency means a power output equivalent to 24 ZPMs!

    I'm sure you'll agree that is definitely up there with Icarus base in terms of sheer energy output.

    McKay ended up destroying 5/6 of a solar system when he couldn't turn it off. Icarus base had an explosion on a similar magnitude.

    SGA:McKay and Mrs Miller (season 3, ep 8) builds on the perceived weaknesses of the Ancient's approach. In the end it causes unforeseen side effects but it is continuing along the line of the Ancient's experiments in ZPM creation/energy harnessing plot.

    Just throwing ideas up here guys. Thoughts?
    They way i see ZPM's is that they are capable of drawing all their contained power at once, instead of a constant charge over time (like a battery) the same with a Naquadria core. It seems that constant power supply is not required to establish power but a HUGE boost and then power to maintain.

    (Note: I changed the links)

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