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    Dialing into the LA planet to prevent a dial out.

    I haven't watched SG-1's "Memento" in a while, but I believe that's the episode that establishes that the Earth ships use gate addresses to navigate. Which means for the Hammond to be able to get to the LA planet, Telford would have provided a gate address. Meaning the SGC could have dialed in to prevent the LA from dialing out while Carter's strike team moved in.

    The only things I could see that would prevent them from dialing in are:

    1. In Air Scott says something about the Icarus gate being modified to prevent dial ins because of the power being tied in from the planets core or something. It is possible that the LA did this as well but it isn't stated explicitly.

    2. Earth ships have some other way of navigating now and Telford gave them some other type of coordinate besides a gate address.

    Idk, this is really just nit picking, but I wish they had addressed this point because I keep thinking that would have been the best thing for them to do.

    Perfecto!

    #2
    gate adresses ARE coordinates. if you have coordinates, the adress can be calculated, if you have an adress, coordinates can be calculated.

    however since the LA stole pretty much all of earth's tech from the looks of it, they probably figured out how to prevent dialling in. even Kiva got there by ship, not stargate

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      #3
      It's actually a fair point. It's a little bit of a stretch that the LA would have deliberately modified the gate so that it couldn't accept incoming wormholes, but possible. The best thing would have been for the Hammond to beam up a stargate, and have the Alpha site dial it as soon as it arrived. That way, the LA gate wouldn't have been able to dial at all.

      And where's the Daedalus, the Apollo, and the Sun-Tzu?

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        #4
        Oops, double post.

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          #5
          It's actually a fair point. It's a little bit of a stretch that the LA would have deliberately modified the gate so that it couldn't accept incoming wormholes, but possible. The best thing would have been for the Hammond to beam up a stargate, and have the Alpha site dial it as soon as it arrived. That way, the LA gate wouldn't have been able to dial at all.

          And where's the Daedalus, the Apollo, and the Sun-Tzu?
          1: perhaps, but there wasn't time. actually they were already dialling so no point in that. besides, the dial-in technique was a trademark of the Wraith and happened before in the MW. it's basically standard tactics.

          2: those ships are probably undergoing SERIOUS repairs.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Kaiphantom View Post
            It's actually a fair point. It's a little bit of a stretch that the LA would have deliberately modified the gate so that it couldn't accept incoming wormholes, but possible. The best thing would have been for the Hammond to beam up a stargate, and have the Alpha site dial it as soon as it arrived. That way, the LA gate wouldn't have been able to dial at all.
            Yeah I didn't even think of that. They could have just as easily beamed up their gate.

            And where's the Daedalus, the Apollo, and the Sun-Tzu?
            Wasn't the Sun Tzu crippled in the void between PG and MW in EATG? I guess they could have salvaged it. Daedalus and Apollo probably in PG. But what about the Odyssey? Last we heard it was on some uber secret mission.

            Perfecto!

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              #7
              The facility was shielded, so they couldn't beam up anyone or anything.

              The Sun-Tzu was crippled, but no word if it could have been repaired. I assume they would have repaired it eventually, even if it took heading out there with another ship after SGA with repair parts. That still leaves the Daedalus and Apollo, though.

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                #8
                Wasn't exclusively a trademark of the Wraith, the Goa'uld did it in a few episodes too

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                  #9
                  Heck, if they just carry a Pegasus gate around with them, they don't even have to dial it. The Pegasus gates always seem to take precedent over the Milky Way gates.
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                    #10
                    As we learned in "Air, Part 1," the way a stargate has to be connected to an Icarus-type planet's core prevents dial ins. Once it's been tied into the naquadria deposits, all you can do is dial out and hope it works.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by IMForeman View Post
                      Heck, if they just carry a Pegasus gate around with them, they don't even have to dial it. The Pegasus gates always seem to take precedent over the Milky Way gates.
                      They should make pegasus gates standard issue on the 304's lolz.

                      Perfecto!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by IMForeman View Post
                        Heck, if they just carry a Pegasus gate around with them, they don't even have to dial it. The Pegasus gates always seem to take precedent over the Milky Way gates.
                        When have we seen that?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by pbellosom View Post
                          when have we seen that?
                          eatg

                          Perfecto!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Major_Griff View Post
                            eatg
                            I could be misremembering, but Atlantis couldn't dial earth because the super-wraith ship's gate had already dialed earth and was blocking it, so it didn't matter that Atlantis' gate was also in proximity to earth.

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                              #15
                              You are misremembering. Carter states that part of the problem with setting up Midway was the Pegasus Gate would always supersede the Milky Way Gate, and that they needed to make a workaround for it to prevent that problem. The Wraith hadn't dialed anywhere, as witnessed, Rodney, Ronon, Teyla and Lorne were able to gate to the ship.
                              "There's not a little boy born who wouldn't tear the world apart to save his mummy... and this little boy can." --The Doctor.
                              "The plastic tips at the ends of shoelaces are called Aglets. Their true purpose is sinister."--The Question.
                              BAD WOLF!!!

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