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    How Did Scott Ever Pass Military Training?

    He's certainly not cut out for it is he?
    Bless the Maker and all His Water. Bless the coming and going of Him, May His passing cleanse the world. May He keep the world for his people.

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    He passed through it, like everything else. In and out, in and out.



    * get it? :-P

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      #3
      I don't think he's ever been in the position of having to kill one of his own before. Even if they thought he was a traitor.

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        #4
        He passed officer training and he had no field experience prior to Icarus.

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          #5
          Was good to see Young putting him firmly in his place at the start of the episode with his little line about following orders. Scott's not suited to command, on Earth he'd be the equivalent of Walter, desk jockey pushing paper and pens.
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            #6
            Originally posted by wargrafix View Post
            He passed through it, like everything else. In and out, in and out.



            * get it? :-P
            Hahaha! Green for you!
            Bless the Maker and all His Water. Bless the coming and going of Him, May His passing cleanse the world. May He keep the world for his people.

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              #7
              Originally posted by wargrafix View Post
              He passed through it, like everything else. In and out, in and out.



              * get it? :-P
              You certainly didn't need to add "get it?". Didn't you?
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                #8
                He's certainly not cut out for off-world duty and neither is Young.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Shai Hulud View Post
                  Was good to see Young putting him firmly in his place at the start of the episode with his little line about following orders. Scott's not suited to command, on Earth he'd be the equivalent of Walter, desk jockey pushing paper and pens.
                  That's what happens with no field experience. Scott and Young have not developed a bond of loyalty unlike Greer and Young.

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                    #10
                    You dont have to have a bond of loyalty to do your job. Scott's inexperience is compounded by his questionable morality and the fact that he is easily manipulated by others. Wray has him wrapped round her little finger, she flashes him a look and the next moment he's grappling with Greer attempting to open the door. Greer should have sparked him out.
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                      #11
                      I like Greer's "stand to attention" cold stare in that scene vs "emotional" Scott. It was a nice contrast.
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                        #12
                        As an officer it is your obligation to question the morality of orders coming from your superiors.

                        If you follow an order that leads to the murder of innocents for example, you can be held just as responsible as the commanding officer.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Takamuri View Post
                          As an officer it is your obligation to question the morality of orders coming from your superiors.

                          If you follow an order that leads to the murder of innocents for example, you can be held just as responsible as the commanding officer.
                          Well I was about to say the same thing. I've been quick on this forum to point out that military personnel may feel the need to resort to torture, and in my opinion it is sometimes necessary. But it is also necessary for officers to make sure they are happy with the orders they are following. It is absolutely the right thing for officers to question seniors over morally questionable acts, to not do so leads to a culture of blind obedience, but can lead to a litany of war crimes, and in the long run, people who follow blindly and have no initiative of their own are pretty useless to the military.

                          Aside from that it is Scott's duty not to follow and be complicit in illegal orders. Where interrogation ends and torture begins can be blurry, but it appeared for a minute that Young had killed Telford, something that there is no leeway in, it would be an illegal act under military law.

                          Scott did exactly what he should have done. Young failed to inform him what was going on, and appeared to be about to commit an illegal act, which Scott is duty bound to stop him. Scott's training seemed to be working perfectly.

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                            #14
                            Greer never questions what Col. Young does, because he knows his place. Scott was sounding like a little wimp. "Waahh, you're gonna kill him, waaaaah". Shut up and be a soldier Scott!
                            Stratification?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by somme View Post
                              I don't think he's ever been in the position of having to kill one of his own before. Even if they thought he was a traitor.
                              Very true. He's inexperienced.

                              Which isn't a problem. Depends if he's learning or not.
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