since the 1 thread about Wray is - by the OP - not for debating the merits of the character, and the other thread is about her relationship with the woman back on earth, i think its time to open the books and debate the merits of the character......
i personally find Wray to be in WAY over her head on Destiny, borderline incompetent, completely lacking in self-esteem, power-hungry, corruptible, and incredibly weak as a person, leader, commander, and "relationship partner"
she is the IOA liason on-board Destiny and, i believe, thusly in charge of all civilians on board
that makes her one of the 3 senior personnel along with Young and Rush
thus she is, but position, a commanding leader
however, she shown at times to be an incompetent and selfish leader more concerned with her own personal agenda than the overall mission (which is to get everyone back to Earth as safely as possible)
case and point 1: the lottery. both Rush and Young refused to allow their names to be included in the lottery. granted, Rush did it out of selfish reasons of staying with Destiny. Young had no personal reason to stay on board. in fact, the refugees would have been better suited having Young accompany them given his survival expertise and training... nevertheless, he gave up his spot so that one more person could go - that is leadership. Wray adamantly demanded that she be included in the lottery - thus allowing for the possibility of allowing one of her personnel to die. that is not leadership at all
case and point 2: the mutiny. pre-mutiny she reported to her ppl at the IOA that she was uncertain of which side to "sign up" for in the rush-young battle... a good and proper leader would take the side of the crew and work to resolve the conflict before it got out of hand. instead, she stepped back, and waited to see who had the best chance of winning before decided to join his side. playing politics with the lives of your crew is definitely bad leadership.
case and point 2b: the mutiny. the crew is best served by having all sides: military, scientists, and everyone else working together to survive and hopefully return to earth. the scientists obviouslly dealing with unlocking Destiny and getting enough power to dial home. the military to ensuring the safety and survival of everyone, and maintaining order in the event that people contract cabin fever... what does Wray do in the Rush-Young conflict? does she help resolve and prevent the conflict from igniting? No. She in fact throws gasoline on the fire and works with Rush to mutiny against Young. not only does this showcase poor leadership by endangering the lives of her fellow refugees - but it also showcases her selfish desire for power.... just reference her speech where she says that every military in the world reports to a civilian. That is not entirely true (the military of Great Britain reports to the Queen, for instance). and she wanted to be that civilian... the problem, though, is that Young does not report directly to a civilian by design of his office. he reports to either the commander of the SGC or directly to General O'Neill (we have not been told the entire command structure of the Stargate program and HWSecurity yet). it is General O'Neill who reports to a civilian, and that civilian is the President of the United States.
So not only is Wray trying to undermine Young's authority, but also the President's as well.
case and point 3: the most recent episode in which she returned to earth via the LRCSs... and her "flipping out" on her partner because she was gone too long... it was Wray's idea in the first place to send her partner out for a few hours to get out and unwind, and then she gets angry and starts yelling at her when she is gone for a few hours, supposedly all worried that something might have happened... yes, she may have been genuinely concerned for her partner, but i believe that Wray was more concerned about being left alone paralyzed in a wheelchair on a respirator (something, mind you, that she agreed to do) and not having control over her partner
case and point 4: her overly emotional state of mind while on-board
initial despair is definitely understandable upon learning that you are stranded on-board a damaged ship locked on a one-way auto-pilot course traversing hundreds of galaxies with limited food and water and not enough power to get home
but as a senior member of the refugee contingent, it is up to her to get over that despair, step up, and start doing the job that the situation warrants which is to contribute in any way possible to unlocking the ship and getting everyone home.
but she rarely does this... she spends a lot of time wallowing in her forlorned grief at being away from earth and home, far moreso than Chloe who never had any idea what she was getting into, no idea about what running htrough the gate meant, and losing her father, and being cut off from her mother, etc... if anything, Chloe is more suited to being the IOA liason than Wray
Wray needs to grow-up, mature, and start being a responsible and competent leader
or she needs to resign her post and appoint someone else
i personally dislike the character because she is incompetent, unprofessional, and lacking in any intelligence and wisdom pertinent to the refugee situation on-board Destiny
however, i like having a character like this on the show, because in SG1 and SGA, the characters were all a bit too unbelievably competent... only with McKay did we start to see some real flaws...
i personally find Wray to be in WAY over her head on Destiny, borderline incompetent, completely lacking in self-esteem, power-hungry, corruptible, and incredibly weak as a person, leader, commander, and "relationship partner"
she is the IOA liason on-board Destiny and, i believe, thusly in charge of all civilians on board
that makes her one of the 3 senior personnel along with Young and Rush
thus she is, but position, a commanding leader
however, she shown at times to be an incompetent and selfish leader more concerned with her own personal agenda than the overall mission (which is to get everyone back to Earth as safely as possible)
case and point 1: the lottery. both Rush and Young refused to allow their names to be included in the lottery. granted, Rush did it out of selfish reasons of staying with Destiny. Young had no personal reason to stay on board. in fact, the refugees would have been better suited having Young accompany them given his survival expertise and training... nevertheless, he gave up his spot so that one more person could go - that is leadership. Wray adamantly demanded that she be included in the lottery - thus allowing for the possibility of allowing one of her personnel to die. that is not leadership at all
case and point 2: the mutiny. pre-mutiny she reported to her ppl at the IOA that she was uncertain of which side to "sign up" for in the rush-young battle... a good and proper leader would take the side of the crew and work to resolve the conflict before it got out of hand. instead, she stepped back, and waited to see who had the best chance of winning before decided to join his side. playing politics with the lives of your crew is definitely bad leadership.
case and point 2b: the mutiny. the crew is best served by having all sides: military, scientists, and everyone else working together to survive and hopefully return to earth. the scientists obviouslly dealing with unlocking Destiny and getting enough power to dial home. the military to ensuring the safety and survival of everyone, and maintaining order in the event that people contract cabin fever... what does Wray do in the Rush-Young conflict? does she help resolve and prevent the conflict from igniting? No. She in fact throws gasoline on the fire and works with Rush to mutiny against Young. not only does this showcase poor leadership by endangering the lives of her fellow refugees - but it also showcases her selfish desire for power.... just reference her speech where she says that every military in the world reports to a civilian. That is not entirely true (the military of Great Britain reports to the Queen, for instance). and she wanted to be that civilian... the problem, though, is that Young does not report directly to a civilian by design of his office. he reports to either the commander of the SGC or directly to General O'Neill (we have not been told the entire command structure of the Stargate program and HWSecurity yet). it is General O'Neill who reports to a civilian, and that civilian is the President of the United States.
So not only is Wray trying to undermine Young's authority, but also the President's as well.
case and point 3: the most recent episode in which she returned to earth via the LRCSs... and her "flipping out" on her partner because she was gone too long... it was Wray's idea in the first place to send her partner out for a few hours to get out and unwind, and then she gets angry and starts yelling at her when she is gone for a few hours, supposedly all worried that something might have happened... yes, she may have been genuinely concerned for her partner, but i believe that Wray was more concerned about being left alone paralyzed in a wheelchair on a respirator (something, mind you, that she agreed to do) and not having control over her partner
case and point 4: her overly emotional state of mind while on-board
initial despair is definitely understandable upon learning that you are stranded on-board a damaged ship locked on a one-way auto-pilot course traversing hundreds of galaxies with limited food and water and not enough power to get home
but as a senior member of the refugee contingent, it is up to her to get over that despair, step up, and start doing the job that the situation warrants which is to contribute in any way possible to unlocking the ship and getting everyone home.
but she rarely does this... she spends a lot of time wallowing in her forlorned grief at being away from earth and home, far moreso than Chloe who never had any idea what she was getting into, no idea about what running htrough the gate meant, and losing her father, and being cut off from her mother, etc... if anything, Chloe is more suited to being the IOA liason than Wray
Wray needs to grow-up, mature, and start being a responsible and competent leader
or she needs to resign her post and appoint someone else
i personally dislike the character because she is incompetent, unprofessional, and lacking in any intelligence and wisdom pertinent to the refugee situation on-board Destiny
however, i like having a character like this on the show, because in SG1 and SGA, the characters were all a bit too unbelievably competent... only with McKay did we start to see some real flaws...
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