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    Default Kino Technology Inconsistency

    When auto shutdown cut off the power on the ship, Kino dropped into the floor is a thing that shouldn't be happening. Kino running on it's own power source didn't it?

    It can float on any visited planet without a problem. Why suddenly in this episode Kino didn't work like it used to?

    Any thought?

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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinary View Post
    When auto shutdown cut off the power on the ship, Kino dropped into the floor is a thing that shouldn't be happening. Kino running on it's own power source didn't it?

    It can float on any visited planet without a problem. Why suddenly in this episode Kino didn't work like it used to?

    Any thought?
    I think Riley said that he had just pulled the Kino from the tube. Maybe it didn't get a full charge because Destiny was in the process of going into power save mode for the void crossing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starsaber View Post
    I think Riley said that he had just pulled the Kino from the tube. Maybe it didn't get a full charge because Destiny was in the process of going into power save mode for the void crossing.
    Or Destiny just shut it down cos one way or another it is using destinys power, if its not on it won't have to charged and so won't use power
    I dunno what to put in here now..

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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinary View Post
    When auto shutdown cut off the power on the ship, Kino dropped into the floor is a thing that shouldn't be happening. Kino running on it's own power source didn't it?

    It can float on any visited planet without a problem. Why suddenly in this episode Kino didn't work like it used to?

    Any thought?
    Good observation. The only explanation I can come up with is that the kino wasn't charged because the ship was already preparing for his power-saving mode. Strike that. It doesn't work since the kino drop at the same time as the power to the ship.

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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    But at the end of the episode Riley has a working Kino to get Greer's story. Strange isn't?

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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinary View Post
    But at the end of the episode Riley has a working Kino to get Greer's story. Strange isn't?
    Yep.

    Ok here's another explanation. I guess now the most logical explanation is that the ship send a shut down signal to the kino's when turning is power-saving mode on (so it doesn't have to charge them), but that its possible to start a kino manually afterward with the control pad. I forgot they did restore some power afterward to the ship iirc.

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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    I think the problem here is we are making assumptions, that we already understand the technology.

    http://blog.ted.com/2009/08/wireless_electr.php

    This link will sort a lot of your concepts out in this regard. Long story short, as long as the Kino is on board the ship, it could possible draw its power from the ships main power "wirelessly". This would allow them to operate indefinitely on the ship. The Kino does have a finite life span if it was on a battery. Like this it could operate without limits on the ship.

    When its time for it to vist another planet, it then will switch to onboard battery. From here, there are 2 main threads of thoughts. The battery is charged before crossing the gate, or charge by the gate. The other line of thought, is that unless it detects its cross a gate, it does not actually switch over to internal power. Consider it a limitation of the program or design of the Kino.

    Wireless power on the ship makes sense, Heck its like the holy grail of the modern world, no need to guess how much it will be used on the ship.

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    I have hard time accepting that such wireless powered device would only be recharged when crossing the gate and not out of its dispenser (or even continuously).

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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    I was under the impression that Rush turned off the Kino from the console. Brody (I think it was him) looked over at him. The lights then turned off and when Brody looked at him after this, Rush said that wasn't him.

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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    Maybe kinos only go on internal batteries when they go through a gate? It wouldn't surprise me if they had that kind of tech built into it: detect signal from gate > switch to internal power; go through gate > detecting wireless power transfers? yes > switch to wireless mode. no > say on internal power.

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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    I think someone above got it right. The ship just sent a signal to the kino to put it in 'sleep mode'. Since the void is so massive the Destiny has to conserve power anyway she can and shuts down all none essential systems. After all, since the void is empty there are no stars to dive into when power levels are low. Also, the kinos original function was to act as a malp and since there's no need for it in the void it would make sense that Destiny shut it down to conserve power.


    I think rush said he could bipass the system and get the lights working again. I assume he did the same thing for the kinos and got them working again. Might turn out to be a bad decision power wise.


    Edit: How can anything like a kino be powered wirelessly?
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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinary View Post
    But at the end of the episode Riley has a working Kino to get Greer's story. Strange isn't?
    This was after they'd overriden the power-save feature, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deckker View Post
    Long story short, as long as the Kino is on board the ship, it could possible draw its power from the ships main power "wirelessly". This would allow them to operate indefinitely on the ship. The Kino does have a finite life span if it was on a battery. Like this it could operate without limits on the ship.
    One problem I see with this is that the Kinos worked during Darkness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starsaber View Post
    One problem I see with this is that the Kinos worked during Darkness.
    Different scenarios. Didn't the consoles shut down in "Darkness," or am I remembering that wrong?
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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    I'm more leaning towards a ship-wide shutdown or sleep mode. Just like flicking the master switch. Everything is automated yaa.

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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    oibviously destiny started shutting everything down for it s journey across the void

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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    Nah, the ship will make one last refueling stop before the void. I believe the kinos use wireless power on the ship.

    Spoiler:
    That being said, i also believe the saboteur is already at work screwing with the systems, they really dont want Destiny to leave. Rush should have figure this one out

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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    Computer virus. Probably an unknown concept for the Ancients.

    Personally, I'm more intrigued as to why the Kinos don't have a recall system in case they end up in a planet with a toxic atmosphere and can't be retrieved manually.

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    Default Re: Kino Technology Inconsistency

    Quote Originally Posted by sblade View Post
    Computer virus. Probably an unknown concept for the Ancients.

    Personally, I'm more intrigued as to why the Kinos don't have a recall system in case they end up in a planet with a toxic atmosphere and can't be retrieved manually.
    They'd need to have their own dialing system for that to work, and once the wormhole shuts down, they might not know the address to dial back to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starsaber View Post
    They'd need to have their own dialing system for that to work, and once the wormhole shuts down, they might not know the address to dial back to.
    Would that be unfeasible for the Ancients? Were the Kinos so expendable to them?

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