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    I think the morality system is a standout point of the Mass Effect games, not only as a videogame device but also just as good sci-fi. Good science fiction stories should make us ask questions, is it better to spare our enemies by brainwashing them or do we give them the dignity of dying with their free will intact. That is what I feel makes the Mass Effect games not just excellent games bu7t also great sci-fi stories.

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    I beat Mass Effect 2 with one of my Paragon characters and playing through on Renegade currently. Also by a strange coincidence my Renegade Shepard looks like Wesker from Resident Evil (I played through Mass Effect 1 before playing any Resident Evil games), and now looks like him even more with the glowing red eyes. I usually prefer to play as Paragon, but love some of the Renegade dialog:


    I do like how in this game, how it's not like the first where everything was organic vs. synthetic with all A.I.'s and machines being evil. Mass Effect 2 has two ally machine characters, EDI and Legion, not only that, Shepard is now a Cyborg. The Illusive Man is an awesome character, some of the best voice acting ever in a video game.

    So what is everyone opinion on some of the choices:

    Spoiler:

    For the Geth I rewrote them, I'm thinking they will help in the third game.

    In the end, do you destroy the base, or keep it. I chose to destroy it because it's Reaper technology, it probably causes indoctrination or the Reapers could still use it somehow to their advantage.


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    There is a comic series?! *goes to Amazon*
    There's probably going to be hardcover volume with all four comics released later on, like they did with the Halo and Gears of War comics. I'm going to wait for that before getting it. I downloaded the first one the day it was free but can't use it because I don't have an Ipod touch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oranos View Post
    My "main" Shepard approached it from the standpoint that the queen couldn't be trusted. Given all the facts and historical data, the species is a major threat. Their population could and would explode in a very short time (maybe months or just a couple of years). He just couldn't risk releasing the queen and having to fight a war on two fronts.
    Spoilers for Mass Effect 2:
    Spoiler:

    If you let the queen live, you get a message from her on the asari planet. The conversation strongly implies the Rachi were indoctrinated by the Reapers, and the Reapers were behind the whole war.


    Oh, here is another great Mass Effect 2 video:
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    You know actually playing some of the paragon stuff is more satisfying in the long run. Yes convincing a store owner to give you a discount by giving an endorsement doesn't sound fun, but it's hilarious when you do it to very single store on the citadel and as you run past just hear "I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite store on the Citadel," from every store. And no one calls you out over it

    Also on another note, anyone else notice how Claudia Black is getting in all the Bioware games. She's really gone big in voice acting since the end of Stargate SG1 and she's done plenty of voice work in some big games. Bioware seem to like using her, she voices Morrigan in Dragon Age and Admiral Xen in Mass Effect 2 as well as some minor characters. And both games seemed to be setting up that those characters might be important in the sequel so I reckon we'll be hearing a lot more of her in future Bioware games. Not that I'm complaining
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedalus-304 View Post
    So what is everyone opinion on some of the choices:

    Spoiler:

    For the Geth I rewrote them, I'm thinking they will help in the third game.

    In the end, do you destroy the base, or keep it. I chose to destroy it because it's Reaper technology, it probably causes indoctrination or the Reapers could still use it somehow to their advantage.


    Ditto on the Geth. Same on the base. But I really think the latter decision is going to come back to bite me in the @$$. I don't know why, just a hunch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daedalus-304 View Post
    Spoilers for Mass Effect 2:
    Spoiler:

    If you let the queen live, you get a message from her on the asari planet. The conversation strongly implies the Rachi were indoctrinated by the Reapers, and the Reapers were behind the whole war.
    Completely irrelevant. That is so-called proof that you do not have when you first encounter the Rachni Queen on Noveria. Given all the evidence and facts up to that first meeting, it's pretty much insane to keep her alive. This is an extremely dangerous race that almost defeated the Council. Only the Krogan stopped them--and that's a race that can no longer outbreed them. Could you imagine just having to fight the Rachni and the Reapers? That'd be an absolute nightmare of epic proportions.

    There are some hints in the first conversation with her. But again, it comes down to trust. And whether you can risk it. The way I play my Shepard, he can't.

    Besides, it's worth killing the queen for this conversation alone:

    Turian Councilor: Do you take pleasure from committing genocide, Shepard?
    Shepard: Depends on the species, Turian.
    Turian Councilor: Commander! You are addressing a member of the Council. You will show the proper respect!

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    Oh, here is another great Mass Effect 2 video:
    Yes, I quite like that video (and have had it as part of my favorites for a while now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mighty 6 platoon View Post
    You know actually playing some of the paragon stuff is more satisfying in the long run. Yes convincing a store owner to give you a discount by giving an endorsement doesn't sound fun, but it's hilarious when you do it to very single store on the citadel and as you run past just hear "I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite store on the Citadel," from every store. And no one calls you out over it

    Also on another note, anyone else notice how Claudia Black is getting in all the Bioware games. She's really gone big in voice acting since the end of Stargate SG1 and she's done plenty of voice work in some big games. Bioware seem to like using her, she voices Morrigan in Dragon Age and Admiral Xen in Mass Effect 2 as well as some minor characters. And both games seemed to be setting up that those characters might be important in the sequel so I reckon we'll be hearing a lot more of her in future Bioware games. Not that I'm complaining
    Indeed, Claudia has exploded into video games, she did an excellent job on Uncharted 2 from what I heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mighty 6 platoon View Post
    You know actually playing some of the paragon stuff is more satisfying in the long run. Yes convincing a store owner to give you a discount by giving an endorsement doesn't sound fun, but it's hilarious when you do it to very single store on the citadel and as you run past just hear "I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite store on the Citadel," from every store. And no one calls you out over it
    I prefer playing on Paragon, it's much better helping people out rather than being a jerk, I only played Renegade in the first one to get an achievement. I'm also surprised no one called you out over that too, I was expected him to say slightly different things in each store, rather than the same line over and over again. Speaking of Citadel stores, anyone find the game salesman hilarious?

    Also on another note, anyone else notice how Claudia Black is getting in all the Bioware games. She's really gone big in voice acting since the end of Stargate SG1 and she's done plenty of voice work in some big games. Bioware seem to like using her, she voices Morrigan in Dragon Age and Admiral Xen in Mass Effect 2 as well as some minor characters. And both games seemed to be setting up that those characters might be important in the sequel so I reckon we'll be hearing a lot more of her in future Bioware games. Not that I'm complaining
    I actually didn't even recognize it was her until I saw her name in the credits, I didn't even hear she was going to be in the game before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oranos View Post
    Besides, it's worth killing the queen for this conversation alone:

    Turian Councilor: Do you take pleasure from committing genocide, Shepard?
    Shepard: Depends on the species, Turian.
    Turian Councilor: Commander! You are addressing a member of the Council. You will show the proper respect!
    Yes, that is a great line.

    For the Rachni, I can see wiping them out, I just couldn't do it. It would be interesting if in the third game they turned out to be hostile, showing a negative outcome of a "Paragon" action of letting them live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedalus-304 View Post
    I actually didn't even recognize it was her until I saw her name in the credits, I didn't even hear she was going to be in the game before.
    I was amused that both Morrigan and Loghain had infiltrated the Quarian fleet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daedalus-304 View Post
    Yes, that is a great line.
    I love all the Renegade conversations with that Turian (and that was one of the reasons I spared the Council). Another good one, if I remember correctly:

    Turian Councilor: I believe you humans have a saying. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
    Shepard: We humans have another saying. Go to hell.

    And telling the Council, in the second game, to 'screw themselves' when they offer you your Spectre status back is so worth it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daedalus-304 View Post
    For the Rachni, I can see wiping them out, I just couldn't do it. It would be interesting if in the third game they turned out to be hostile, showing a negative outcome of a "Paragon" action of letting them live.
    I'll laugh when they get indoctrinated again and turn on you.

    To be fair, you Paragons have already had some negative outcomes. You let bad guys go free. Elnora, for example.

    Found these. They're pretty funny. Check them out:

    http://bleedingcrow.deviantart.com/a...eved-154121898

    http://bleedingcrow.deviantart.com/a...nute-154834447

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    Quote Originally Posted by Replicator Todd View Post
    Indeed, Claudia has exploded into video games, she did an excellent job on Uncharted 2 from what I heard.
    She really is in a lot of a list titles recnetly, form Crysis, to Uncharted 2, to the Bioware games. I hope maybe she convinces some more Stargate talent to do voices for the games, I mean Mass Effect 2 had scifi talent by the truckload doing the voicies and it would be cool if they added some more stargate Alumini to Mass Effect 3.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daedalus-304 View Post
    I prefer playing on Paragon, it's much better helping people out rather than being a jerk, I only played Renegade in the first one to get an achievement. I'm also surprised no one called you out over that too, I was expected him to say slightly different things in each store, rather than the same line over and over again. Speaking of Citadel stores, anyone find the game salesman hilarious?
    I like helping people in my games, but at the same time I enjoy gunning down all the bad guys and screw any of that forgiveness crap So that means in both Mass Effect games my Shepard usually ends up with a full paragon bar with plenty of renegade on the side. I like to think of it as playing it Bauer style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mighty 6 platoon View Post
    She really is in a lot of a list titles recnetly, form Crysis, to Uncharted 2, to the Bioware games. I hope maybe she convinces some more Stargate talent to do voices for the games, I mean Mass Effect 2 had scifi talent by the truckload doing the voicies and it would be cool if they added some more stargate Alumini to Mass Effect 3.
    Ya. More CB would be nice.
    Aside from her, only Adam Baldwin has been on SG, right (for ME2, that is)? Also, other than Admiral Xen, who else did she voice (I think it's already certain that she did the voice for the Rachni-Asari, but what about the Asari bartender?)?

    edit:
    on a more 'technical' note: re: ME1: did anyone experience a 'slowdown'/more 'sluggish' game after installing the 'Bring Down the Sky' DLC? I seem to recall it running smoother prior to the DLC's installation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotthammer View Post
    on a more 'technical' note: re: ME1: did anyone experience a 'slowdown'/more 'sluggish' game after installing the 'Bring Down the Sky' DLC? I seem to recall it running smoother prior to the DLC's installation...
    The only problem I remembered having was that the landscape on Therum turned completely black. But that was an easy fix. Other than that, no, no problems.

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    I had none of those problems, on the 360 version.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    I had none of those problems, on the 360 version.
    Nyehehehe. *sigh* Well, it's one of the 'cons' of gaming on a PC.
    (tho' the biggest 'con', at least on my end, would be that time when I'm looking at the latest price list for PC components...)

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    I got the 360 release because, at the time, my PC couldn't handle ME. Now I have a new PC, but I wanted to import my ME1 savegames so I stuck with 360 for ME2. *shrug*


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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    I had none of those problems, on the 360 version.
    It's too bad; my "problem" was kind of fun. I tried driving around on the surface of Therum like that just for kicks. Apparently, however, the Mako doesn't do so well when you drive it into black lava.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oranos View Post
    It's too bad; my "problem" was kind of fun. I tried driving around on the surface of Therum like that just for kicks. Apparently, however, the Mako doesn't do so well when you drive it into black lava.
    The pc version is better, looks great, runs pretty smoothly on most computers. I even got Mass Effect to run on my crummy laptop and it still looked pretty good. Dunno if that would work with Mass Effect 2 though .

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mighty 6 platoon View Post
    The pc version is better, looks great, runs pretty smoothly on most computers. I even got Mass Effect to run on my crummy laptop and it still looked pretty good. Dunno if that would work with Mass Effect 2 though .
    It should, I think. I mean, as I may have mentioned in another thread, ME2 runs much more smoothly than ME1 for me (again, tho', I kinda feel the BDtS DLC, or the patch that comes w/ it, may be at 'fault' *shrugs*).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotthammer View Post
    It should, I think. I mean, as I may have mentioned in another thread, ME2 runs much more smoothly than ME1 for me (again, tho', I kinda feel the BDtS DLC, or the patch that comes w/ it, may be at 'fault' *shrugs*).
    I dunno it ran smoothly on my laptop even with Bring Down the Sky installed.

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    Just to bump this thread...

    Soooo....who likes Tali?
    *ducks for cover*

    On a more 'serious' note: still no word on the Hammerhead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotthammer View Post
    Soooo....who likes Tali?
    *ducks for cover*
    The Tali romance was....interesting. Heh

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    On a more 'serious' note: still no word on the Hammerhead?
    Still no word on that. No word on the new character yet either


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    Quote Originally Posted by gotthammer View Post
    Just to bump this thread...

    Soooo....who likes Tali?
    *ducks for cover*
    Can't we talk about that Turian bad@$$, Garrus Vakarian instead? Or Miranda Lawson?

    It just feels wrong talking about my Shep's "little sister" behind her back.

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