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    Would a single ZPM be able to dial Destiny?

    What do you think? Would us manage to dial the destiny using only one ZPM? If not how many do you think it would be necessary to.
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    No.

    A lot. A whole lot of ZPMs in synchrony. It took an entire planet filled with the most unstable element/isotope going critical and practically unleashing all the power it had available.
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      #3
      YESSSSSSSSS!

      A ZPM could dial the Destiny again and again and again and ag..... again.

      I once calculated that it would take about 30-60 Mk.I naquadah reactors to power milky way-peagasus connection for enough to send things through but not exceed the 38 minute time limit.

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        #4
        Originally posted by lordofseas View Post
        A lot. A whole lot of ZPMs in synchrony. It took an entire planet filled with the most unstable element/isotope going critical and practically unleashing all the power it had available.
        While watching Air i had the distinct impression that the critical/explosion status of the core was caused by shots of the Hataks on orbit, combined with the dialing procedures.
        Last edited by Steelbox; 08 February 2010, 03:22 AM.
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          #5
          Originally posted by mirdin1992 View Post
          YESSSSSSSSS!

          A ZPM could dial the Destiny again and again and again and ag..... again.

          I once calculated that it would take about 30-60 Mk.I naquadah reactors to power milky way-peagasus connection for enough to send things through but not exceed the 38 minute time limit.
          If they were able to dial Destiny with a single ZPM, then they would have done it. They are faaar past the Pegasus galaxy.
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            #6
            Originally posted by Steelbox View Post
            While watching Air i had the distinct understanding that the critical status of the core was caused by shots of the Hataks on orbit, combined with the dialing procedures.
            Yet it was the only time that they successfully dialed Destiny.
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              #7
              Originally posted by lordofseas View Post
              Yet it was the only time that they successfully dialed Destiny.
              I agree that the core going critical would release more energy. But would it be necessary to go critical? No. There where two trips programed, one to ascertain viability and gather data and another one to send a team. The Eli power rate x power extraction algoritm/equation was used so an exact quantity of energy was extracted without the core exploding.
              Now do we know how many energy is needed to be extracted from naquadria to explode/ go critical? How many was necessary to dial Destiny. For all we know it is possible that 1 or a couple ZPM would do the job however taxing for them.
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                #8
                Bottom line is, we don't know the yield of Naquadah at all (besides the vague line from the original film where Ra says that just the small amount of Naquadah he added to the bomb, which looked to be about a kilo to me, would increase the yield a hundred times), and the only way we can try to calculate the power of a ZPM is that old ZP-energy-from-a-teacup-of-space-would-boil-all-oceans-on-Earth analogy, stated by either Feynman or Planck, I don't remember which.

                The power of a ZPM is impressive, but another question is, can it be released over a short enough period to power the connection? We know a ZPM can be overloaded, so likely there is a limit on the rate energy is drawn from it. We only know that the ZPM has a final capacity, as it works much the same way as a battery (non-rechargeable). But you also can't extract all the energy stored in a 1,5V-battery at once, it will only give you those 1,5 Volts, and if you want too great a current from it, it'll likely just pop and spill out, or short-circuit. Happens often enough.

                So, really, I cannot say if a single ZPM can be used to dial Destiny. I'm of the opinion it cannot under normal circumstances. If, however, one built a capacitor that can deplete a ZPM on charging itself and then release all the energy at once, it could be possible. Problem is, even if the Ancients knew how to build such a thing, we most likely do not.

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                  #9
                  MT's per gramme for Naquahdah. a solid naquahdah core would yield about 10^38 joules of energy. naquahdriah is several orders of magnitude more powerful.


                  the core might not be entirely solid, but even at 1% naquahdah it still is an impressive 10^36 joules. ZPM's are somewhere in the 10^35 area.


                  i think that there are two possibilities:


                  1: yes, a ZPM can dial destiny. it depletes really fast though, and is nearly depleted within a minute.

                  2: NO, at least two are needed, if not a whole battery of ZPM's.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Steelbox View Post
                    What do you think? Would us manage to dial the destiny using only one ZPM? If not how many do you think it would be necessary to.
                    no clue we don't know the exact power requirements to dial the ninth chevron
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                      #11
                      If they could they wouldn't have needed the icarus planet. They have ZPMs.
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                        #12
                        on topic!
                        IMO No

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                          #13
                          IDK...but it would be fun to find out...
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jedi_Master_Bra'tac View Post
                            If they could they wouldn't have needed the icarus planet. They have ZPMs.
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                              #15
                              The Odyssesy using its ZPM was able to power the Supergate and go to the Ori galaxy, however it depends how power consumtion increases with distance as opposed to the size of the wormhole...I would think dialing a Supergate to a very distant galaxy would be just as taxing as dialling the Destiny but it would appear a ZPM is not enough...

                              The Core of Icarus was made of Naquadriah, an asteroid 140km wide with a core of Naquadah would become a mini nova when detonated so a planet core made of something even more explosive would be super nova level at least.
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